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posted on 10/5/21

Sacking Poch after less than a year in charge and the opportunity to bring in some of his own players would be ludicrous, even for PSG. Winning this seasons title or not should not be a reason to judge Poch.

posted on 10/5/21

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You had Poch who hadn't won anything but that has been Spurs at their best for god knows how long. You've tried Mourinho who has a track record of winning trophies and that didn't work either for one reason or another.

The Spurs rebuild might take 4/5 years and I understand why the club would want a young, progressive coach (which is probably why you won't go for Bielsa) but at the same time, Bielsa's style would suit your players and he would get you back into the top 4 in a couple of seasons. A 2 year contract, let Bielsa get you into the CL, shake hands then and that should make the rebuild much easier as you'd be able to attract the players and managers.
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What makes you so sure Bielsa would get Spurs back into the CL in a couple of seasons with the current squad, I very much doubt it. Bringing a team up from the Championship, then having them mid table, is miles away from taking a team into the CL.
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You laugh at Bielsa who has managed to take a squad of Championship players to the top half of the PL within 3 seasons and, as said above, is regarded as one of the worlds most influential coach, but yet Spurs fans are wanting Graham Potter to take over. What's Potter done to deserve even being in with a shout of the Spurs job? Because he plays good football?
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I am not laughing at Bielsa, just think he is to old for the Spurs job, the bookies seem to think so as well, he is 33/1, and 22 managers are shorter in the betting than he is. Rodgers is still the favourite according to them. I personally do not get quite the hype over Potter, Brighton never won a home game for the first five months of the season.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 8 seconds ago
Sacking Poch after less than a year in charge and the opportunity to bring in some of his own players would be ludicrous, even for PSG. Winning this seasons title or not should not be a reason to judge Poch.
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Sorry Billy, if you go to one of the financially doped clubs like PSG, you have to hit the ground running. It should have been a given that they at least win their league. When you have such a massive advantage over your rivals, you really do not have any excuses.

posted on 10/5/21

I wasn't referring to you laughing at Bielsa.

My opinion is I thought he may have been a good shout for the job based on that his contract is up at Leeds at the end of the season and a good 2 years might see Spurs back into the top 4 and then you can go from there really. I don't see why he's any worse of a candidate than any of the other names mentioned for the job.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 ho... (U20567)
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comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
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Sacking Poch after less than a year in charge and the opportunity to bring in some of his own players would be ludicrous, even for PSG. Winning this seasons title or not should not be a reason to judge Poch.
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Sorry Billy, if you go to one of the financially doped clubs like PSG, you have to hit the ground running. It should have been a given that they at least win their league. When you have such a massive advantage over your rivals, you really do not have any excuses.
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Did Spendiola hit the ground running at Mansour FC?

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posted on 10/5/21

It would indeed be dumb to get rid of Poch now, league title or no title. It's not like they were leading when Tuchel left.

posted on 10/5/21

Poch was given a short contract for a reason, if they don’t win the league he’s definitely gone in my opinion.

posted on 10/5/21

Sandy, this your subtle way of saying you don’t mind Pochettino coming back ? I have seen you mention this a few times now. I personally think if he were available, Levy would hire him again. They were very close and still are.

posted on 10/5/21

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Morning Sandy, I think its a bit like getting back together with an x girlfriend in that the things that prevented it working the first time will pretty quickly get you again.

He'd be mad to come back, our squad is full of lazy flat track bullies that would throw any manager under the bus.
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I agree, things will not have changed much. But up against some of the other contenders, even I think he may be the best choice. He would have to move forward though on a shoestring.
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There doesn't seem much out there at all which makes the decision to get rid of Jose so close to the end of the season even more ridiculous.
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I think that was more down to fan pressure than anything else, the decision to get rid of Jose.
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Yes but having not sacked him after the Wolves, Brighton or Zagreb games (all showed the players weren't interested) we might as well have kept him until the season ended.

The LC final performance couldn't of been worse if Jose had still been in charge.
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Yeah, it was again obvious against Leeds that some players have downed tools and are half heartedly turning up.

Lamela is one for sure. He is looking for a move away. Dier looks fed-up, Aurier with an eye elsewhere too. Reggie isn't confident anymore, and Kane is losing his interest too.
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Yes, if you're a midtable team thats prepared to put a shift in and are reasonably well organised then we are there for the taking.

We are fine sticking a few past Burnley, Palace or Sheff Utd at the Lane but thats as far as it goes. Look at the difference in Bale when we play a poor side at home compared to an average team away.

Tell you what PEH can p1ss off as well, midfield enforcer my aunt Fannny.

posted on 10/5/21

"I am not laughing at Bielsa, just think he is to old for the Spurs job, the bookies seem to think so as well, he is 33/1, and 22 managers are shorter in the betting than he is."

That has nothing to do with age, its the Bookies knowing he ain't leaving Leeds and they're giving a price to dope a few dopes into a bet!..

Only losers would take that bet!..

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Morning Sandy, I think its a bit like getting back together with an x girlfriend in that the things that prevented it working the first time will pretty quickly get you again.

He'd be mad to come back, our squad is full of lazy flat track bullies that would throw any manager under the bus.
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I agree, things will not have changed much. But up against some of the other contenders, even I think he may be the best choice. He would have to move forward though on a shoestring.
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There doesn't seem much out there at all which makes the decision to get rid of Jose so close to the end of the season even more ridiculous.
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I think that was more down to fan pressure than anything else, the decision to get rid of Jose.
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Yes but having not sacked him after the Wolves, Brighton or Zagreb games (all showed the players weren't interested) we might as well have kept him until the season ended.

The LC final performance couldn't of been worse if Jose had still been in charge.
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Yeah, it was again obvious against Leeds that some players have downed tools and are half heartedly turning up.

Lamela is one for sure. He is looking for a move away. Dier looks fed-up, Aurier with an eye elsewhere too. Reggie isn't confident anymore, and Kane is losing his interest too.
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Yes, if you're a midtable team thats prepared to put a shift in and are reasonably well organised then we are there for the taking.

We are fine sticking a few past Burnley, Palace or Sheff Utd at the Lane but thats as far as it goes. Look at the difference in Bale when we play a poor side at home compared to an average team away.

Tell you what PEH can p1ss off as well, midfield enforcer my aunt Fannny.
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True!

I agree. It;s disappointing for us the fans to see such number of players who are at the club and not interested or are half hearted

posted on 10/5/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 8 seconds ago
Sacking Poch after less than a year in charge and the opportunity to bring in some of his own players would be ludicrous, even for PSG. Winning this seasons title or not should not be a reason to judge Poch.
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Sorry Billy, if you go to one of the financially doped clubs like PSG, you have to hit the ground running. It should have been a given that they at least win their league. When you have such a massive advantage over your rivals, you really do not have any excuses.
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You do realise they were 3rd when tuchel was sacked right?

posted on 10/5/21

PEH just runs around pointing for people to pass backwards, doesn’t know how to pass forward and can’t shoot.

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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 25 minutes ago
Morning Sandy, I think its a bit like getting back together with an x girlfriend in that the things that prevented it working the first time will pretty quickly get you again.

He'd be mad to come back, our squad is full of lazy flat track bullies that would throw any manager under the bus.
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I agree, things will not have changed much. But up against some of the other contenders, even I think he may be the best choice. He would have to move forward though on a shoestring.
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There doesn't seem much out there at all which makes the decision to get rid of Jose so close to the end of the season even more ridiculous.
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I think that was more down to fan pressure than anything else, the decision to get rid of Jose.
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Yes but having not sacked him after the Wolves, Brighton or Zagreb games (all showed the players weren't interested) we might as well have kept him until the season ended.

The LC final performance couldn't of been worse if Jose had still been in charge.
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Yeah, it was again obvious against Leeds that some players have downed tools and are half heartedly turning up.

Lamela is one for sure. He is looking for a move away. Dier looks fed-up, Aurier with an eye elsewhere too. Reggie isn't confident anymore, and Kane is losing his interest too.
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Whilst I agree with the comments about Dier & Aurier, I disagree re Lamela.
When he comes onto the pitch he shows an edge that we are lacking, challenges for the ball, albeit sometimes a little recklessly, but he shows commitment and also actually dribbles past opposition players, something most of our players seem reluctant to do. When they have an opposing player in front of them the first thought is to go backwards, sometimes to Lloris🤬

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 44 minutes ago
Sandy, this your subtle way of saying you don’t mind Pochettino coming back ?I have seen you mention this a few times now. I personally think if he were available, Levy would hire him again. They were very close and still are.
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I would be here nor there Don. He would have been away for a couple of years, and would be a chance to wipe the slate clean. I am not advocating he comes back, but as a PR exercise by Levy, he surely cannot be any worse than some of the names being mentioned. So may make some sense.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 35 minutes ago
"I am not laughing at Bielsa, just think he is to old for the Spurs job, the bookies seem to think so as well, he is 33/1, and 22 managers are shorter in the betting than he is."

That has nothing to do with age, its the Bookies knowing he ain't leaving Leeds and they're giving a price to dope a few dopes into a bet!..

Only losers would take that bet!..
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If he was offered the Spurs job, I reckon he would jump at it. But I doubt Spurs will be offering a 65 year old the managers job. Just to old. May as well get Fergie out of retirement.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
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comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 8 seconds ago
Sacking Poch after less than a year in charge and the opportunity to bring in some of his own players would be ludicrous, even for PSG. Winning this seasons title or not should not be a reason to judge Poch.
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Sorry Billy, if you go to one of the financially doped clubs like PSG, you have to hit the ground running. It should have been a given that they at least win their league. When you have such a massive advantage over your rivals, you really do not have any excuses.
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You do realise they were 3rd when tuchel was sacked right?
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But he won the title with them last season, and the season before. Something Poch is not liekly to do.

Tuchel departed Paris Saint-Germain with a record of 95 wins, 13 draws, and 19 defeats in 127 games, with the best win percentage in Ligue 1 history (75.6%) and the highest average of points per game (2.37, tied with his predecessor Emery).

posted on 10/5/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 44 minutes ago
Sandy, this your subtle way of saying you don’t mind Pochettino coming back ?I have seen you mention this a few times now. I personally think if he were available, Levy would hire him again. They were very close and still are.
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I would be here nor there Don. He would have been away for a couple of years, and would be a chance to wipe the slate clean. I am not advocating he comes back, but as a PR exercise by Levy, he surely cannot be any worse than some of the names being mentioned. So may make some sense.
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I’m not keen on the Potter links at all and made my feelings on that before. I don’t agree with because he plays good football, it means he will be a good fit. He’s struggled with Brighton in both seasons he’s been there. I would support him, but he’s far down the list for me.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 38 minutes ago
PEH just runs around pointing for people to pass backwards, doesn’t know how to pass forward and can’t shoot.
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I have been saying for months he is bang average, he lacks mobility, is ordinary passing the ball and as far as being a DM goes, he does not offer enough cover defensively.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 35 minutes ago
"I am not laughing at Bielsa, just think he is to old for the Spurs job, the bookies seem to think so as well, he is 33/1, and 22 managers are shorter in the betting than he is."

That has nothing to do with age, its the Bookies knowing he ain't leaving Leeds and they're giving a price to dope a few dopes into a bet!..

Only losers would take that bet!..
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If he was offered the Spurs job, I reckon he would jump at it. But I doubt Spurs will be offering a 65 year old the managers job. Just to old. May as well get Fergie out of retirement.
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Bielsa is not a careerist. If he were he's have managed much bigger clubs than the ones he has. The Spurs job represents the kind of job he tries to avoid. The higher up you go the more PR bull you have to put up with. I think he's just more attracted to the Leeds project than ours. Simple as that. Not to mention that we'd have to overhaul our squad to be able to implement his style and we don't have the dosh to be able to do it. We'd need young and/or hungry players to do his drills. Our squad is the equivalent of giving the milk a bit of a whiff after it's use by date and being unsure whether to drink it or not.

posted on 10/5/21

As you know Sandy, I'm a big Poch fan and I was gutted he was sacked at the time but things were unfortunately on the slide, as you once said. I don't think that was about him though. I just think it was the end of the project. The end of the enthusiasm from both squad and manager, exhausted by the emotional turmoil of losing that once in a century opportunity to win the European Cup.

He's a great manager but I don't think he should be coming back yet. First of all, PSG want to keep him. Leonardo has already made that clear apparently. Secondly, if he rejoined he'll be inheriting a squad that had already grown tired of his methods. They all loved him, sure, but you always need a fresh voice from time to time. That's why Fergie changed his coaches so often, to keep things fresh. I don't think Poch coming back is a good idea until a completely new set of players are in place. Otherwise it really is like trying to rekindle a relationship with someone that you've seen take a dump. The magic is gone and the smell still lingers . Let's give it 5 minutes shall we?!

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 10/5/21

Sandy, if you are in support of Poch returning I would not be able to take anything you say seriously again. You wanted him gone long before he ended up leaving.

For me we have made 2 mistakes. The first one was not backing Poch... the 2nd was not backing Jose.

I would like to take Poch back and back him again.

posted on 10/5/21

"I think he's just more attracted to the Leeds project than ours. Simple as that."

Sandy, thake note of what fridgeboy says, that is one of the big reasons he doesn't go anywhere, he looks at the club from top to bottom, the 3 top men in the Leeds board,(owner +2!)went backwards and forwards 3-4 times to Argentina to talk with him, that took weeks!..

The only reason he came to Leeds was because the Leeds board agreed to his terms and how he wanted things doing, they were very surprised when he turned around to them at one meeting and told them things about their players they didn't even know, he'd studied videos off every player, told the board who he could work with and it went from there!..

Imagine your boss doing that!..

Did the ESL work?..

You'd have more chance off that working than Bielsa coming to you's, so, jumping at a job, maybe somewhere but Spurs would be one off if not the last!..

And the age thing, that wouldn't be you trying to divert what isn't going to happen would it?..

posted on 10/5/21

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Sandy, if you are in support of Poch returning I would not be able to take anything you say seriously again. You wanted him gone long before he ended up leaving.

For me we have made 2 mistakes. The first one was not backing Poch... the 2nd was not backing Jose.

I would like to take Poch back and back him again.
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Where did I say I wanted him back? I just said given some of the managers being touted as the new Spurs boss, then it might be a good idea for Levy to get the fans onside, by re employing Poch. I am here nor there. I never make things personal, and he wouldn't be the first manager to go back to a club that had sacked him.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
I think its a bit like getting back together with an x girlfriend in that the things that prevented it working the first time will pretty quickly get you again.
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It's like that but after you've realised that you've fked up and that titty blonde ain't a good partner material.

Now you need to woo your ex again, with tails between your legs, and act like a puppy but this time if you do buy her rings etc then it will be at Harrods and diamond encrusted!

None of that cheap H. Samuel stuff
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The mental image of a busty, blonde Mourinho is going to haunt my dreams.

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