When I say agree with you, to be clear..I agree overall the strength of the PL is up so there should be some expectation for stronger sides to finish mid table
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do you ever take a day off, or are you a tiresome pr!ck all year round?
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Southampton have been truly abysmal for a long time.
They're bottom of the table, somehow even worse than Sheffield Utd, if you look at results for just 2021.
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Not sure who you’d expect Everton and Wolves to displace. The money and quality in the PL nowadays guarantees that strong sides will finish mid table. The PL is the ESL.
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Certainly better than the 13th they got last season. I agree with you but also taking into account how much Everton spend (relative to where they finish in the league) and their manager, I think they’re underperforming.
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But their squad isn’t very good. They’re competing with teams that have much better players than them.
Injuries have obviously been a big problem as well. But the fact they’re probably the slowest team in the league makes it even more surprising that they are still up there this season.
Wolves are okay, they didn't invest well this summer and lost Jota. Prior to Jiminez' injury they were in the top half weren't they?
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When I say agree with you, to be clear..I agree overall the strength of the PL is up so there should be some expectation for stronger sides to finish mid table
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I look at the 7 teams above Everton. Obviously West Ham are an anomaly, but then so is Arsenal in 9th, so they’re probably where I’d expect them to be. That being said, they could go to 6th if they win their game in hand, in which case have they overachieved? Not a lot in it at all.
Wolves have had a disappointing year but I don’t see who they displace in the top 9 on expectation and Leeds/Villa are no mugs. Wolves haven’t capitalised on their momentum with good signings and have paid the price.
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Southampton have been truly abysmal for a long time.
They're bottom of the table, somehow even worse than Sheffield Utd, if you look at results for just 2021.
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I think they will go down next season.
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comment by Mo Salahhhhh Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
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United after the money they’ve spent? Should be winning something at least!
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Season aint over yet
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To be fair you were embarrassed in the CL and are now pinning hopes on a cup Arsenal desperately wanted. Levels
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Don't diss it too much, you're probably gonna be in it next season.
Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
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United after the money they’ve spent? Should be winning something at least!
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Season aint over yet
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Not the sharpest, is he?
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That lad is one of the Dips thickest posters to be fair.
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Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
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I don't have great affection for the preening ladyboy and he's obviously declined significantly from his best. But he's top scorer in Serie A with 27 goals in 31 matches, six more than his nearest rivals (including Lukaku, who is generally depicted as having performed miracles and proved the doubters wrong) and 34 goals in all competitions. At the age of 36. I'd be happy to be that shockingly bad at my job.
From what I've heard it seems Everton are more or less where they expected to be.
They'd wasted a lot of money in recent years and landed up with a pretty imbalanced squad that they knew would take time to reshape.
I think this season all they wanted was a bit of progress and didn't expect to see significant improvement until next year.
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Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
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He’s still a great goal scorer but his game now is solely about scoring goals and the whole team must accommodate that.
Some would like to see him come back if Juve will sell. Not for me. Would be just like Zlatan all over again. Still very good individually but the team would suffer.
In regards to Wolves, one good season doesn't make them a cert for the top 7 at all
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We had two 7th place finishes.
Been a miserable season for us though and the injuries have hidden the real problems. Poor transfer windows have stagnated us and a miserable style has been completely found out and the players have lost their love for playing turgid football which happens once results drop off.
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
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comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
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The over-sensitivity is strong with this one!
No one is trying to draw conclusions between Moyes and Klopp as managers. No one is saying there aren't circumstances that explain Liverpool's astonishing drop-off in results compared to their imperious 2019-20 season. It's simply the realisation that things have gone similarly to the ultimate car crash season reference point for United fans that brings home how badly this one turned out for LFC.
Klopp is a great manager and we're envious of what he has achieved. Happy now? Or still feeling a bit upset?
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
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The over-sensitivity is strong with this one!
No one is trying to draw conclusions between Moyes and Klopp as managers. No one is saying there aren't circumstances that explain Liverpool's astonishing drop-off in results compared to their imperious 2019-20 season. It's simply the realisation that things have gone similarly to the ultimate car crash season reference point for United fans that brings home how badly this one turned out for LFC.
Klopp is a great manager and we're envious of what he has achieved. Happy now? Or still feeling a bit upset?
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No over-sensitivity here. Just a silly comparison which I pointed out and provided my reasons for judging it so.
comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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Yes we did.
And if comparisons are to be made with injuries, should be compared to the United team of 09/10. Richie De Laet was the most senior defender available at one point. He was something like 9th or 10th choice.
We were lining up with Fletcher, Carrick and De Laet in a back 3 because we couldn't field 4 players even remotely defensive.
That is a defensive injury crisis. Yet we were slated for losing a few games because of that, and slated some more at the end of the season for only finishing 2nd.
comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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I understand teams have loads of injuries but to have them centered around centre back, with your three first choice centre backs put out for the season, your midfielder who is the fourth choice centre back then getting injured and then another midfielder, your captain going back there and getting put out for the season also is unprecedented and terrible luck.
I'd have still been confident with four players out for the season but spread out over multiple positions.
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comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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Yes we did.
And if comparisons are to be made with injuries, should be compared to the United team of 09/10. Richie De Laet was the most senior defender available at one point. He was something like 9th or 10th choice.
We were lining up with Fletcher, Carrick and De Laet in a back 3 because we couldn't field 4 players even remotely defensive.
That is a defensive injury crisis. Yet we were slated for losing a few games because of that, and slated some more at the end of the season for only finishing 2nd.
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For one game.
It's only a silly comparison if someone is trying to draw unjustifiable conclusions. As far as I can tell, no one was saying "Klopp's Liverpool are no better than Moyes' United," which really would be silly.
As I said, it's an illuminating comparison because it reflects the hugely surprising scale of Liverpool's decline this season, not because it tells us how good the team is compared to Moyes' United. I'm pretty sure most LFC fans share that astonishment. If you'd known the injury troubles you'd have this year, you'd have expected to suffer to some extent, but I don't think you'd have predicted you'd have so few points, or that the team as a whole (so confident, so dominant for the last couple of years) would prove to be as brittle.
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posted on 11/5/21
When I say agree with you, to be clear..I agree overall the strength of the PL is up so there should be some expectation for stronger sides to finish mid table
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine
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To be fair you were embarrassed in the CL and are now pinning hopes on a cup Arsenal desperately wanted. Levels
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do you ever take a day off, or are you a tiresome pr!ck all year round?
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b) Tiresome pr!ck all year round
posted on 11/5/21
Southampton have been truly abysmal for a long time.
They're bottom of the table, somehow even worse than Sheffield Utd, if you look at results for just 2021.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not sure who you’d expect Everton and Wolves to displace. The money and quality in the PL nowadays guarantees that strong sides will finish mid table. The PL is the ESL.
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Certainly better than the 13th they got last season. I agree with you but also taking into account how much Everton spend (relative to where they finish in the league) and their manager, I think they’re underperforming.
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But their squad isn’t very good. They’re competing with teams that have much better players than them.
Injuries have obviously been a big problem as well. But the fact they’re probably the slowest team in the league makes it even more surprising that they are still up there this season.
posted on 11/5/21
Wolves are okay, they didn't invest well this summer and lost Jota. Prior to Jiminez' injury they were in the top half weren't they?
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
When I say agree with you, to be clear..I agree overall the strength of the PL is up so there should be some expectation for stronger sides to finish mid table
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I look at the 7 teams above Everton. Obviously West Ham are an anomaly, but then so is Arsenal in 9th, so they’re probably where I’d expect them to be. That being said, they could go to 6th if they win their game in hand, in which case have they overachieved? Not a lot in it at all.
Wolves have had a disappointing year but I don’t see who they displace in the top 9 on expectation and Leeds/Villa are no mugs. Wolves haven’t capitalised on their momentum with good signings and have paid the price.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 14 minutes ago
Southampton have been truly abysmal for a long time.
They're bottom of the table, somehow even worse than Sheffield Utd, if you look at results for just 2021.
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I think they will go down next season.
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posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Mo Salahhhhh Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 13 minutes ago
United after the money they’ve spent? Should be winning something at least!
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Season aint over yet
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To be fair you were embarrassed in the CL and are now pinning hopes on a cup Arsenal desperately wanted. Levels
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Don't diss it too much, you're probably gonna be in it next season.
posted on 11/5/21
Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
posted on 11/5/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Fckthglzrs. (U1270)
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comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
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comment by Mo Salahhhhh Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 13 minutes ago
United after the money they’ve spent? Should be winning something at least!
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Season aint over yet
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Not the sharpest, is he?
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That lad is one of the Dips thickest posters to be fair.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
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I don't have great affection for the preening ladyboy and he's obviously declined significantly from his best. But he's top scorer in Serie A with 27 goals in 31 matches, six more than his nearest rivals (including Lukaku, who is generally depicted as having performed miracles and proved the doubters wrong) and 34 goals in all competitions. At the age of 36. I'd be happy to be that shockingly bad at my job.
posted on 11/5/21
From what I've heard it seems Everton are more or less where they expected to be.
They'd wasted a lot of money in recent years and landed up with a pretty imbalanced squad that they knew would take time to reshape.
I think this season all they wanted was a bit of progress and didn't expect to see significant improvement until next year.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 32 minutes ago
Ronaldo and his shocking form has also gone under the Radar or is this not the article to mention this
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He’s still a great goal scorer but his game now is solely about scoring goals and the whole team must accommodate that.
Some would like to see him come back if Juve will sell. Not for me. Would be just like Zlatan all over again. Still very good individually but the team would suffer.
posted on 11/5/21
In regards to Wolves, one good season doesn't make them a cert for the top 7 at all
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We had two 7th place finishes.
Been a miserable season for us though and the injuries have hidden the real problems. Poor transfer windows have stagnated us and a miserable style has been completely found out and the players have lost their love for playing turgid football which happens once results drop off.
posted on 11/5/21
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
posted on 11/5/21
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comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
posted on 11/5/21
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posted 25 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
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The over-sensitivity is strong with this one!
No one is trying to draw conclusions between Moyes and Klopp as managers. No one is saying there aren't circumstances that explain Liverpool's astonishing drop-off in results compared to their imperious 2019-20 season. It's simply the realisation that things have gone similarly to the ultimate car crash season reference point for United fans that brings home how badly this one turned out for LFC.
Klopp is a great manager and we're envious of what he has achieved. Happy now? Or still feeling a bit upset?
posted on 11/5/21
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
posted on 11/5/21
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 25 minutes ago
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posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst it isn't under the radar, I don't think Liverpool's poor season has been highlighted enough.
At the point of his sacking, David Moyes' United team had a better PL record than the current Liverpool team. That's how bad they've been.
And the United team he took over was on it's last legs as a top team, not the best team in the world ever like the Liverpool team of last season.
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Difference is, that Klopp made us Prem and European cup winners. I am sure if Moyes had done that in the previous couple of years he would have been given more time. There is also context of Moyes maybe having a similar/better record, but we are still very much in the race for CL.
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I don't think anyone is claiming this means Klopp should be sacked or that Moyes is his equal as a manager. But it does serve to illustrate the scale of the awfulness of Liverpool's season.
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Would have been interesting where Moyes would have finished if every centre back was put out for the season, a midfielder put back, injured, another midfielder moved back, put out for the season, if we want to make a comparison, even if it's a stupid one.
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The over-sensitivity is strong with this one!
No one is trying to draw conclusions between Moyes and Klopp as managers. No one is saying there aren't circumstances that explain Liverpool's astonishing drop-off in results compared to their imperious 2019-20 season. It's simply the realisation that things have gone similarly to the ultimate car crash season reference point for United fans that brings home how badly this one turned out for LFC.
Klopp is a great manager and we're envious of what he has achieved. Happy now? Or still feeling a bit upset?
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No over-sensitivity here. Just a silly comparison which I pointed out and provided my reasons for judging it so.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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Yes we did.
And if comparisons are to be made with injuries, should be compared to the United team of 09/10. Richie De Laet was the most senior defender available at one point. He was something like 9th or 10th choice.
We were lining up with Fletcher, Carrick and De Laet in a back 3 because we couldn't field 4 players even remotely defensive.
That is a defensive injury crisis. Yet we were slated for losing a few games because of that, and slated some more at the end of the season for only finishing 2nd.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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I understand teams have loads of injuries but to have them centered around centre back, with your three first choice centre backs put out for the season, your midfielder who is the fourth choice centre back then getting injured and then another midfielder, your captain going back there and getting put out for the season also is unprecedented and terrible luck.
I'd have still been confident with four players out for the season but spread out over multiple positions.
posted on 11/5/21
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Scott The King McTominay (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
We had loads of injuries that season as well.
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Yes we did.
And if comparisons are to be made with injuries, should be compared to the United team of 09/10. Richie De Laet was the most senior defender available at one point. He was something like 9th or 10th choice.
We were lining up with Fletcher, Carrick and De Laet in a back 3 because we couldn't field 4 players even remotely defensive.
That is a defensive injury crisis. Yet we were slated for losing a few games because of that, and slated some more at the end of the season for only finishing 2nd.
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For one game.
posted on 11/5/21
It's only a silly comparison if someone is trying to draw unjustifiable conclusions. As far as I can tell, no one was saying "Klopp's Liverpool are no better than Moyes' United," which really would be silly.
As I said, it's an illuminating comparison because it reflects the hugely surprising scale of Liverpool's decline this season, not because it tells us how good the team is compared to Moyes' United. I'm pretty sure most LFC fans share that astonishment. If you'd known the injury troubles you'd have this year, you'd have expected to suffer to some extent, but I don't think you'd have predicted you'd have so few points, or that the team as a whole (so confident, so dominant for the last couple of years) would prove to be as brittle.
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