If it was a burning house I'd try and help the person first.
You could also make an arguement about who to try and save if it was between an adult and a child.
Logic would say the adult, human emotion would make most people choose the child.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
You could also make an arguement about who to try and save if it was between an adult and a child.
Logic would say the adult, human emotion would make most people choose the child.
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Child every time
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
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Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
It just feels like a pointless philosophical debate in which we could have fun arguing either way
In the context of what's happening right now and the poll results which started the conversation it is mad and says what a weird little island we are
Fack the interpreters but save the kitties
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Personally, I don’t think it a pointless debate at all. I think these kinds of questions are actually pretty critical in terms of our understanding of the world we live in, our place in it, our interactions with it, and ultimately what it means to be human versus what we’d like it to mean or (more commonly) assume that it means.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
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Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
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An interesting scenario would be simultaneous fires at a prison for $ex offenders adjacent to a donkey sanctuary.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
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Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting scenario would be simultaneous fires at a prison for $ex offenders adjacent to a donkey sanctuary.
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Humans are biased..it's proven.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
It just feels like a pointless philosophical debate in which we could have fun arguing either way
In the context of what's happening right now and the poll results which started the conversation it is mad and says what a weird little island we are
Fack the interpreters but save the kitties
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally, I don’t think it a pointless debate at all. I think these kinds of questions are actually pretty critical in terms of our understanding of the world we live in, our place in it, our interactions with it, and ultimately what it means to be human versus what we’d like it to mean or (more commonly) assume that it means.
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It's that we're trying to have two different conversations
I can't really argue what IS more important in one life versus another because I'm not the arbiter of anything like that
I'd genuinely save my dog before my Mrs.
She's made me promise, because that's what she would do..
She's also made me promise in a hypothetical situation where it's her or a baby during childbirth that I'll keep her alive (I think she might feel differently were she actually pregnant, she's not a monster.. honest )
Anyone else read about the army vet in Houston that died of a gallstone because Texan hospitals are full of anti vaxxers?
Disgusting
Anyone else noticed the new E10 fuel pumps where they live? I dunno if it’s me but it seems like they add extra mileage on my car when I filled it up earlier.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 45 minutes ago
Geronimo 🥀
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The end to a very silly saga that should have finished ages ago.
I wonder how many other animals were a reasonable cost to attempt to preserve this one's life!
Needless murder of a harmless animal
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
Ok I'm also a weirdo... This is hilarious 🤣
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1432674096605802497?s=19
Interview of a woman arrested for using a water pistol starts at 1:25
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
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I feel for the alpaca, and I feel for the owner to a degree.
But this is one animal, I know farmers who lost hundreds to bTB and one farm that has gone to the wall over it.
Fighting those rulings to keep it alive was just giving it a chance to spread further sickness, and frankly if she can't abide by livestock law, she shouldn't be allowed any.
The owner had the animal tested twice by independant vets who gave it the all-clear.
There were over 1,000 offers to rehome the animal both here and abroad.
Defra refused to have dialogue with the owner because "Too many staff were on holiday" however it was given a reprieve until Setember 4th.
August 31st, Defra officials, with a police escort, went back on their promise and removed the animal against the owners will and executed it.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
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And all those dogs from Afghanistan, I mean I love animals, but there were still desperate f*cking people at that airport when that plane took off.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
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And all those dogs from Afghanistan, I mean I love animals, but there were still desperate f*cking people at that airport when that plane took off.
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Yes, and the British government refused them entry.
There were 270 empty seats. The animals were ONLY on the hold where humans cannot be.
Those dogs, and the donations they generated from the British people paid for that plane, the Taliban allowed their truck through their checkpoints after the British had pulled back
The fault lies solely with the British government and its hesitancy to grant asylum to people who helped them, and will probably lose their lives for it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-deaths-today-latest-b1912567.html
207 deaths
Puts us over the "50k deaths a year" threshold quite considerably
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1484949/Wetherspoons-beer-shortage-supply-chain-lorry-driver-Tim-martin-Brexit
LOL
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 hours, 23 minutes ago
Puts us over the "50k deaths a year" threshold quite considerably
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And this isnt peaks and troughs.. this is the summer, when most are outside with the removal of measures.
This will get a lot worse in the winter.
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posted on 29/8/21
If it was a burning house I'd try and help the person first.
posted on 29/8/21
You could also make an arguement about who to try and save if it was between an adult and a child.
Logic would say the adult, human emotion would make most people choose the child.
posted on 29/8/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
You could also make an arguement about who to try and save if it was between an adult and a child.
Logic would say the adult, human emotion would make most people choose the child.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Child every time
posted on 29/8/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
posted on 29/8/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
It just feels like a pointless philosophical debate in which we could have fun arguing either way
In the context of what's happening right now and the poll results which started the conversation it is mad and says what a weird little island we are
Fack the interpreters but save the kitties
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally, I don’t think it a pointless debate at all. I think these kinds of questions are actually pretty critical in terms of our understanding of the world we live in, our place in it, our interactions with it, and ultimately what it means to be human versus what we’d like it to mean or (more commonly) assume that it means.
posted on 29/8/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting scenario would be simultaneous fires at a prison for $ex offenders adjacent to a donkey sanctuary.
posted on 29/8/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 minutes ago
Would you genuinely in the position where you could only save one; choose a dog over another person
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people would choose the person.
There are (better) reasons to do that, logically-speaking, than a belief that human life is fundamentally of greater inherent value than animal life; and the best of those, IMO, is the argument from the social contract.
There’s also the direct personal impact in terms of the results of society’s judgment and the judgment of the law and courts of choosing the dog over the human
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting scenario would be simultaneous fires at a prison for $ex offenders adjacent to a donkey sanctuary.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Humans are biased..it's proven.
posted on 29/8/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
It just feels like a pointless philosophical debate in which we could have fun arguing either way
In the context of what's happening right now and the poll results which started the conversation it is mad and says what a weird little island we are
Fack the interpreters but save the kitties
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally, I don’t think it a pointless debate at all. I think these kinds of questions are actually pretty critical in terms of our understanding of the world we live in, our place in it, our interactions with it, and ultimately what it means to be human versus what we’d like it to mean or (more commonly) assume that it means.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's that we're trying to have two different conversations
I can't really argue what IS more important in one life versus another because I'm not the arbiter of anything like that
posted on 29/8/21
I'd genuinely save my dog before my Mrs.
She's made me promise, because that's what she would do..
She's also made me promise in a hypothetical situation where it's her or a baby during childbirth that I'll keep her alive (I think she might feel differently were she actually pregnant, she's not a monster.. honest )
posted on 30/8/21
Anyone else read about the army vet in Houston that died of a gallstone because Texan hospitals are full of anti vaxxers?
Disgusting
posted on 30/8/21
Anyone else noticed the new E10 fuel pumps where they live? I dunno if it’s me but it seems like they add extra mileage on my car when I filled it up earlier.
posted on 31/8/21
Geronimo 🥀
posted on 31/8/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 45 minutes ago
Geronimo 🥀
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The end to a very silly saga that should have finished ages ago.
I wonder how many other animals were a reasonable cost to attempt to preserve this one's life!
posted on 31/8/21
Needless murder of a harmless animal
posted on 31/8/21
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
posted on 31/8/21
Ok I'm also a weirdo... This is hilarious 🤣
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1432674096605802497?s=19
posted on 31/8/21
Interview of a woman arrested for using a water pistol starts at 1:25
posted on 31/8/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I feel for the alpaca, and I feel for the owner to a degree.
But this is one animal, I know farmers who lost hundreds to bTB and one farm that has gone to the wall over it.
Fighting those rulings to keep it alive was just giving it a chance to spread further sickness, and frankly if she can't abide by livestock law, she shouldn't be allowed any.
posted on 31/8/21
The owner had the animal tested twice by independant vets who gave it the all-clear.
There were over 1,000 offers to rehome the animal both here and abroad.
Defra refused to have dialogue with the owner because "Too many staff were on holiday" however it was given a reprieve until Setember 4th.
August 31st, Defra officials, with a police escort, went back on their promise and removed the animal against the owners will and executed it.
posted on 31/8/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And all those dogs from Afghanistan, I mean I love animals, but there were still desperate f*cking people at that airport when that plane took off.
posted on 31/8/21
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I feel for the owner and the sweet looking alpaca but mad MAD how much attention it's got
Weird little island
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And all those dogs from Afghanistan, I mean I love animals, but there were still desperate f*cking people at that airport when that plane took off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, and the British government refused them entry.
There were 270 empty seats. The animals were ONLY on the hold where humans cannot be.
Those dogs, and the donations they generated from the British people paid for that plane, the Taliban allowed their truck through their checkpoints after the British had pulled back
The fault lies solely with the British government and its hesitancy to grant asylum to people who helped them, and will probably lose their lives for it.
posted on 2/9/21
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-deaths-today-latest-b1912567.html
207 deaths
posted on 2/9/21
Puts us over the "50k deaths a year" threshold quite considerably
posted on 2/9/21
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1484949/Wetherspoons-beer-shortage-supply-chain-lorry-driver-Tim-martin-Brexit
LOL
posted on 2/9/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 hours, 23 minutes ago
Puts us over the "50k deaths a year" threshold quite considerably
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this isnt peaks and troughs.. this is the summer, when most are outside with the removal of measures.
This will get a lot worse in the winter.
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