People who base their politics on their football allegiance are up there with the saddest cvnts of all.
SNP could put in their manifesto that they want to abolish Rangers and award all their trophies retrospectively to Broomhill Sports Club and I'd still be no more or less inclined to vote for them.
Don't get the "they're trying to close us down" stuff. WTF's that about?!
It's fine to be annoyed about some of their recent behaviour towards rangers.
It's also fine to want independence above all else
It's also fine to want to stay in the union
Basing either of the last 2 points on your football team is idiocy as I have told a good few of these if you vote SNP then you aren't a rangers fan types on twitter.
Rangers seem quite happy to take my money.
It's up there with 'ma Granda voted Labour, ma Da voted Labour, uv voted Labour all my life' as a justification for still doing so.
Very few people will agree 100% with any party manifesto
Furthermore, the technology exists today for electronic voting by the people on every significant decision. Oh sure there could be problems with household coercion and abuse but that pretty much already exists. Why won't anyone pursue that in this country? A topic by topic people's referendum that crosses party lines and lets 'our leaders' understand what we think and cross us at your peril. They think they know bets and want to pursue their dogma as opposed to what people want.
Brechin papped out the SPFL
That’s rangers fans for you Stevie...
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 minutes ago
Brechin papped out the SPFL
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Wee Nic doesnt like them either
comment by Magnum. (The big man on here, The Chief, The Head Honcho, The Big Tamale, The Sheriff, The Main Man, The Guv'nor for the Danny Dyer types, WTF are you looking at?) (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 minutes ago
Brechin papped out the SPFL
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Wee Nic doesnt like them either
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Paps?
I assumed all Rangers fans voted Rangersy.
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
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Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
It's fine to be annoyed about some of their recent behaviour towards rangers.
It's also fine to want independence above all else
It's also fine to want to stay in the union
Basing either of the last 2 points on your football team is idiocy as I have told a good few of these if you vote SNP then you aren't a rangers fan types on twitter.
Rangers seem quite happy to take my money.
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Fair point!
The age old irish, british, what are Scots debate?
You can be Scottish n British,, or irish n british too!
The British union and Scottish indy thing is made up anyway by political guys seeking power.
The fact Gers fans wave union flags in that part of uk annoys SNP and Celtic irish republicans, hence the hostility
Remaining in the union is as valid and logical as seeking to go it alone, in Scotland or Ireland👍
am just glad Rangers won 55 and stopped Celtic😉
OP
Fair call mate, and Zach gets grief for being Indy and Rangers, but that is daftie stuff.
When you look at bojo Tories, Corbyn and now Starmer Labour, it hardly makes you want to vote for thon clowns.
As I said, the old hate between green and orange,,brit and Mick, colours the Indy and union debate, with both sides winding each other up for petty tribal reasons.
Given Boris Tory rule, or Labour nowadays, I can see why Scots seek to leave, even though I am kinda unionist.
There does seem to be animosity or jealousy among some nationalist elements and SNP towards Rangers, which does not help.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
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Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
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It makes no sense.... OK I'll try clarify. They have a view of Britishness that is a caricature. Of course you may disagree but from much of what I read on it, that site screams wannabees for many of them.
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
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Silver’s wife has got hold of his phone and login details it seems...
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
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It makes no sense.... OK I'll try clarify. They have a view of Britishness that is a caricature. Of course you may disagree but from much of what I read on it, that site screams wannabees for many of them.
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I concur mate, romantic notions of what Britain was say 50 years ago and more, not what it is today and unionists Here hold similar delusions, at times.
That said, nothing wrong with being British and Scottish...or Irish or Welsh, as that made it work.
If you go on a nationalist or republican site, you will also see crazy notions of nation, freedom, mopery and romantic concepts of a people oppressed, rising.
I think that's why it annoys me. I'm not a nationalist, I've kinda made my peace it'll happen at some point in my life time.
But I absolutely resent the idea that there's a Britishness check box or something and if I don't agree without question on everything' I'm worse than the nationalists or something. I also get particularly upset at claims a vote for independence is a vote for Scotland. Maybe it is but personally I disagree and remain unconvinced it'll be better. But spare me the guilt trip that I voted against Scotland
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 31 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SDP maybe?
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think that's why it annoys me. I'm not a nationalist, I've kinda made my peace it'll happen at some point in my life time.
But I absolutely resent the idea that there's a Britishness check box or something and if I don't agree without question on everything' I'm worse than the nationalists or something. I also get particularly upset at claims a vote for independence is a vote for Scotland. Maybe it is but personally I disagree and remain unconvinced it'll be better. But spare me the guilt trip that I voted against Scotland
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Unionist and nationalist sides in Scotland and NI try to make you feel guilty, threatened, oppressed, superior, blah blah blah to get you to vote for them.
Politics is dirty and for dsfties like me, lol
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 31 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SDP maybe?
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No, because it has to be viewed from a Scotland in UK angle and not NI in UK angle and probably not by a party that use the word British every second line. A unified Ireland is currently more probable than an independent Scotland imho.
Here, we are headed for a long, long stalemate until enough old traditionalists (note, not unionists) die, enough people get fed up or the nationalists inch over the line. Hardly the way to do it but if it is by apathy then it would at least be typically Scottish.
I didn't mean the SDP is an NI party - of course not. I meant your view of Scottish politics from your NI base.
I vote Green Party cos eh Sellik
Half the bluenoses on here are indy supporters (well maybe not half but a few) and the biggest Tory is a Tim.
I'm a Rangers fan who voted SNP and Green. The two least Rangersy votes. This sites full of weirdos. Welcome.
It works the other way too, stevie.
You can't vote for any other parties or you're accused of only doing it because you're a Rangers fan.
Tiring pash.
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posted on 23/5/21
People who base their politics on their football allegiance are up there with the saddest cvnts of all.
SNP could put in their manifesto that they want to abolish Rangers and award all their trophies retrospectively to Broomhill Sports Club and I'd still be no more or less inclined to vote for them.
posted on 23/5/21
Don't get the "they're trying to close us down" stuff. WTF's that about?!
posted on 23/5/21
It's fine to be annoyed about some of their recent behaviour towards rangers.
It's also fine to want independence above all else
It's also fine to want to stay in the union
Basing either of the last 2 points on your football team is idiocy as I have told a good few of these if you vote SNP then you aren't a rangers fan types on twitter.
Rangers seem quite happy to take my money.
posted on 23/5/21
It's up there with 'ma Granda voted Labour, ma Da voted Labour, uv voted Labour all my life' as a justification for still doing so.
Very few people will agree 100% with any party manifesto
Furthermore, the technology exists today for electronic voting by the people on every significant decision. Oh sure there could be problems with household coercion and abuse but that pretty much already exists. Why won't anyone pursue that in this country? A topic by topic people's referendum that crosses party lines and lets 'our leaders' understand what we think and cross us at your peril. They think they know bets and want to pursue their dogma as opposed to what people want.
posted on 23/5/21
Brechin papped out the SPFL
posted on 23/5/21
That’s rangers fans for you Stevie...
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 minutes ago
Brechin papped out the SPFL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wee Nic doesnt like them either
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Magnum. (The big man on here, The Chief, The Head Honcho, The Big Tamale, The Sheriff, The Main Man, The Guv'nor for the Danny Dyer types, WTF are you looking at?) (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 minutes ago
Brechin papped out the SPFL
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Wee Nic doesnt like them either
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Paps?
posted on 23/5/21
I assumed all Rangers fans voted Rangersy.
posted on 23/5/21
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
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Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
posted on 23/5/21
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
It's fine to be annoyed about some of their recent behaviour towards rangers.
It's also fine to want independence above all else
It's also fine to want to stay in the union
Basing either of the last 2 points on your football team is idiocy as I have told a good few of these if you vote SNP then you aren't a rangers fan types on twitter.
Rangers seem quite happy to take my money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair point!
The age old irish, british, what are Scots debate?
You can be Scottish n British,, or irish n british too!
The British union and Scottish indy thing is made up anyway by political guys seeking power.
The fact Gers fans wave union flags in that part of uk annoys SNP and Celtic irish republicans, hence the hostility
Remaining in the union is as valid and logical as seeking to go it alone, in Scotland or Ireland👍
am just glad Rangers won 55 and stopped Celtic😉
posted on 23/5/21
OP
Fair call mate, and Zach gets grief for being Indy and Rangers, but that is daftie stuff.
When you look at bojo Tories, Corbyn and now Starmer Labour, it hardly makes you want to vote for thon clowns.
As I said, the old hate between green and orange,,brit and Mick, colours the Indy and union debate, with both sides winding each other up for petty tribal reasons.
Given Boris Tory rule, or Labour nowadays, I can see why Scots seek to leave, even though I am kinda unionist.
There does seem to be animosity or jealousy among some nationalist elements and SNP towards Rangers, which does not help.
posted on 23/5/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
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Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It makes no sense.... OK I'll try clarify. They have a view of Britishness that is a caricature. Of course you may disagree but from much of what I read on it, that site screams wannabees for many of them.
posted on 23/5/21
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
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Silver’s wife has got hold of his phone and login details it seems...
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 8 minutes ago
I've said before reading follow follow politics is a strange experience. You're a cult if you vote independence backing parties. And Rangers supporters don't back independence apparently. All whilst berating nationalism and being a weird kind of English nationalist that equates British as equaling English. Looked up what is to be British by what they saw on the friends wedding episode in London or something
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you reading FF?
Your last sentence makes no sense!
Rangers fans are indy, unionist, tory, labour and Green.
Some Gers fans see Scots who think they are irish, waving trico?ours and backing indy to be pyor rebels ....and then a few bears go off on one against SNP politics!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It makes no sense.... OK I'll try clarify. They have a view of Britishness that is a caricature. Of course you may disagree but from much of what I read on it, that site screams wannabees for many of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I concur mate, romantic notions of what Britain was say 50 years ago and more, not what it is today and unionists Here hold similar delusions, at times.
That said, nothing wrong with being British and Scottish...or Irish or Welsh, as that made it work.
If you go on a nationalist or republican site, you will also see crazy notions of nation, freedom, mopery and romantic concepts of a people oppressed, rising.
posted on 23/5/21
I think that's why it annoys me. I'm not a nationalist, I've kinda made my peace it'll happen at some point in my life time.
But I absolutely resent the idea that there's a Britishness check box or something and if I don't agree without question on everything' I'm worse than the nationalists or something. I also get particularly upset at claims a vote for independence is a vote for Scotland. Maybe it is but personally I disagree and remain unconvinced it'll be better. But spare me the guilt trip that I voted against Scotland
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 31 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SDP maybe?
posted on 23/5/21
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think that's why it annoys me. I'm not a nationalist, I've kinda made my peace it'll happen at some point in my life time.
But I absolutely resent the idea that there's a Britishness check box or something and if I don't agree without question on everything' I'm worse than the nationalists or something. I also get particularly upset at claims a vote for independence is a vote for Scotland. Maybe it is but personally I disagree and remain unconvinced it'll be better. But spare me the guilt trip that I voted against Scotland
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Unionist and nationalist sides in Scotland and NI try to make you feel guilty, threatened, oppressed, superior, blah blah blah to get you to vote for them.
Politics is dirty and for dsfties like me, lol
posted on 24/5/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 31 minutes ago
Pretty pashed off with the selection of poor choices we have here. There's room for something inspirational and new but nobody seems able or willing to try?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
SDP maybe?
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No, because it has to be viewed from a Scotland in UK angle and not NI in UK angle and probably not by a party that use the word British every second line. A unified Ireland is currently more probable than an independent Scotland imho.
Here, we are headed for a long, long stalemate until enough old traditionalists (note, not unionists) die, enough people get fed up or the nationalists inch over the line. Hardly the way to do it but if it is by apathy then it would at least be typically Scottish.
posted on 24/5/21
I didn't mean the SDP is an NI party - of course not. I meant your view of Scottish politics from your NI base.
posted on 24/5/21
I vote Green Party cos eh Sellik
posted on 24/5/21
Half the bluenoses on here are indy supporters (well maybe not half but a few) and the biggest Tory is a Tim.
I'm a Rangers fan who voted SNP and Green. The two least Rangersy votes. This sites full of weirdos. Welcome.
posted on 24/5/21
It works the other way too, stevie.
You can't vote for any other parties or you're accused of only doing it because you're a Rangers fan.
Tiring pash.
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