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posted on 24/5/21

Going to be interesting to see what the new guy wants to do system wise as I have no doubt that one of the reasons Fosun were happy to move on from Nuno is down to the negative style of football which really doesn't help when trying to create a global brand.

With that in mind you would assume one of their criteria would be a more forward thinking style of play. Can a back three and wing backs ever be turned into something more attacking? I think it can do a degree but still don't like the idea of relying on full backs for a lot of the attacking intent. That said, with Nuno it was basically a back seven and I am certain we won't be seeing that anymore.

posted on 24/5/21

Just watched the film Gemini Man which was a Fosun Film with Executive Producer Guo Guangchang.

posted on 24/5/21

Personall, I'd like to see Neves in a more forward role. We have enough DM players imo and no attacking ones.

posted on 24/5/21

Never thought Neves would work playing in a more attacking role. Just not mobile enough. He is one of the best defensive midfield players in the league so why not let him carry on being that.

As for Coady he was barely good enough for the championship in midfield so can’t see how moving him forward would improve us. In the centre of a back three is where he has impressed the most. Depends whether a new manager wants to play that way.

posted on 24/5/21

https://twitter.com/TalkingWolves/status/1396875707729518592?s=19


They just re report what's out there no idea if they're credible

posted on 24/5/21

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 26 minutes ago
Never thought Neves would work playing in a more attacking role. Just not mobile enough. He is one of the best defensive midfield players in the league so why not let him carry on being that.

As for Coady he was barely good enough for the championship in midfield so can’t see how moving him forward would improve us. In the centre of a back three is where he has impressed the most. Depends whether a new manager wants to play that way.
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His overall game has improved and the role he'd fulfil isn't dissimilar to the one he fills now

He'd be worth a go there in pre season at least

posted on 24/5/21

Certainly will be interesting to see the set up the next boss wants, Nuno had to transform the squad to get the players he wanted, the next bloke probably will have to work largely with Nuno's squad in the short term at least and mold them to his needs. Difficult job. particularly given the problems Nuno found in trying to get them to adapt to a new formation.

posted on 24/5/21

Teams have been successful playing 343, 523, 4231, 442 and many more variations. It’s not the formation that’s important it’s playing in a way that suits the players you have. Never felt we had the players to make a 4 man defence work this season and it wasn’t as if having an extra man in attack lead to us scoring more

I’d quite like to see us playing 4231 with Traore and Neto as the wide men. But we’d probably need to sign a goal scoring number 10, a creative midfielder to replace Moutinho, a top centre back, and full backs that can defend to make it work well. And I just don’t see us buying 5 quality players in the summer. So we need the new manager to play in a way that best suits the squad we end up with. Whatever formation that is

posted on 24/5/21

That is a fair point, it should be evolution not revolution, we need to get away from the view that we are in some kind of freefall or crisis as well, MolMix is hilarious at the minute with folks adamant we are relegation fodder without Nuno etc.

Realistic expectations for next season will be needed and hopefully we see a better playing style as we transition to the next stage of our overall development.

posted on 24/5/21

Fosun buying Bordeaux of France, Mendes leading the move and Olympiak0s boss Bruno Martins alleged to be taking over.

posted on 24/5/21

One of the men linked with being Wolves manager, the Porto boss Sergei Conceciao is set to replace Gattuso at Napoli

posted on 24/5/21

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 2 minutes ago
One of the men linked with being Wolves manager, the Porto boss Sergei Conceciao is set to replace Gattuso at Napoli
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And fonseca to fiorentina

posted on 24/5/21

A number of press stories this evening saying Bruno Lage is in the uk to meet Mendes and Wolves officials.

He is 4/5 with the bookies to be our next manager. Second favourite is Rafa Benitez

Nuno remains favourite to be next Spurs boss but was 4/9 yesterday and is now 3/1. Shortening in the betting is the Ajax boss Ten Hag

posted on 24/5/21

Be amazed if Spurs went for Nuno after the negative style of Mourinho, I think they even released a statement saying that they wanted the club to go back to its core philosophy football brand of positive forward thinking football.

posted on 24/5/21

Marcal, Jose, Coady, Saiss, Donk, Moutinho - OUT

Patricio, Neves and Traore - these are going whether we like it or not. I think Neto will be on his way if he gets over his injury in time for August, though that's doubtful and a probable blessing in disguise.

New manager should have around £100m to play with. If that is spent with the same amount of wisdom as Nuno employed over the last year then expect a very tough season and another sacking by January 2022.

Raul, Silva (backup), Jonny (even if out for another season), Neto, Vitinha, Semedo, Ait Nouri, Boly, Kilman - should make every effort to keep these nine.

Whoever replaces Nuno has one hell of a job to do. Most of the squad have forgotten who they are and what their strengths are. They played like strangers to each other for over a year. Had Nuno not been the best manager Wolves have had for 40 years then he would have got the boot back in February. The football was utterly dire.

posted on 24/5/21

Percy reporting that Wolves have been talks with Large and is their No 1 choice.
Good as done then kiddos.

Probably the finest lage in whitmore reans

posted on 24/5/21

Mail says it was nuno's decision to leave.

posted on 24/5/21

How do banged

posted on 24/5/21

Lage favoured a 4-4-2 double 6 formation at Benfica for what it is worth. Can't say I have analysed many systems in depth but basically a back four and two deep lying midfielders

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posted on 24/5/21

I couldn't feel more underwhelmed by Lage. He's been a manager (in adult football) for one and a half seasons, was sacked at the end of that spell and noone else has thought him worthy of a punt in the intervening eleven months. As recently as three years ago he was assistant to Carlos Carvalhal (a deeply underwhelming name in itself) in the championship. He had a ludicrously good spell at Benfica admittedly but they obviously didn't consider it so good he wasn't worth sacking.

As with Doherty and Fabio, it's hard not to feel that Mendes is taking little Jeff for a ride. I feel very confused about the Mendes relationship but it does just feel bizarre to me that Mendes can advise Jeff AND Nuno AND Lage - how is there not a conflict of interests in that. Advising Jeff to sack Nuno makes Nuno cheaper to hire, advising Jeff to hire Lage even when noone else seems to want him gets him back on the horse and gives him another chance. I'm not saying these things are the motivating factor or that it's impossible for an "everybody wins" situation to be found... But t does make me uncomfortable, and I do wonder if we'd really be pursuing Lage without Mendes' influence.

posted on 24/5/21

Doing good Tino. Moved house, now just 9 miles from Waterloo Road.

posted on 24/5/21

comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted 10 minutes ago
Doing good Tino. Moved house, now just 9 miles from Waterloo Road.
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Edging closer back home then big man

posted on 24/5/21

comment by (U17339)
posted 26 minutes ago
I couldn't feel more underwhelmed by Lage. He's been a manager (in adult football) for one and a half seasons, was sacked at the end of that spell and noone else has thought him worthy of a punt in the intervening eleven months. As recently as three years ago he was assistant to Carlos Carvalhal (a deeply underwhelming name in itself) in the championship. He had a ludicrously good spell at Benfica admittedly but they obviously didn't consider it so good he wasn't worth sacking.

As with Doherty and Fabio, it's hard not to feel that Mendes is taking little Jeff for a ride. I feel very confused about the Mendes relationship but it does just feel bizarre to me that Mendes can advise Jeff AND Nuno AND Lage - how is there not a conflict of interests in that. Advising Jeff to sack Nuno makes Nuno cheaper to hire, advising Jeff to hire Lage even when noone else seems to want him gets him back on the horse and gives him another chance. I'm not saying these things are the motivating factor or that it's impossible for an "everybody wins" situation to be found... But t does make me uncomfortable, and I do wonder if we'd really be pursuing Lage without Mendes' influence.
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I share some of those concerns but not all of them. Lage would for sure be a gamble. Fantastic success at Benfica for 18 months then things started going wrong and he had a terrible run before getting shown the door.

As for Mendes I think he has been overwhelmingly good for Wolves and been vital in this being our most successful team for decades. There are certainly conflicts and he is making a fortune but as long as Wolves are benefitting overall that’s what matters. Mendes has made his money and remains top of the tree of agents not by ripping people off but by making deals happen. His reputation would sink overnight if that wasn’t the case

posted on 24/5/21

I agree DJ he survives based on his reputation and I'd rather deal with him than mino raiola

posted on 24/5/21

Reports in Portugal are that Porto are saying the deal is done for Vitinha to sign for Wolves on a deal totalling €20m

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