Think January is a huge month for them and the one likely to break their season fan, no Cisse, Ba, Tiote, three of their best players, where will the goals come from without Ba and Cisse, Ameobi not exactly prem standard imo

Turkey according to wiki, apparently he's refused to play for his country three times in the last year so now he wont get called up for them either

They will sign a striker and debuchy imo but most clubs lose players for a month

turkey makes sence

but their main rivals Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs arent going to lose anyone this time, definitely think its going to have a big effect on them

wigan, whats the wigan line up today do you reckon?

Im thinking

Cech
Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole
Mikel Lampard
Ramires Mata Hazard
Torres

for Chelsea, really hope Essien starts over Mikel though, miles better in pre season and Mikel was by far the worst player on the pitch last weekend

Actually just realised that Ivory Coast play Senegal in the final round of qualifying so one or the other wont qualify, looks like they'll probably have Ba and Cisse anyway

i hav no idea havent watched any of the pre season games also not sure if moses plays or not

-----------------Al Habsi-------------------
------Ramis-----Caldwell---Figgy-------
-Boyce-----------------------------Jean--
-----------McCarthy--Gomez----------
------------------Maloney---------------
----------Di Santo-----Moses--------
(Formation changes all game though remember)

McArthur wont start because of injury but could come on. Id expect Kone to replace Di Santo at around 70 mins.

Torres against 3 CBs again

id just play

Cech
Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole
Ramires Lampard
Mata Hazard
Sturridge Torres

we had it first and it was nicked by man city tbf.... i love our formation it can go 5-4-1, 3-4-3, 3-2-3-2 , 4-3-3 and loads more

id say the italians had it first but wigan have a bit of credit i suppose

Hazard is going to be a nightmare for Boyce

Anyukov can leave for a different position improvement for Wigan

Similar standard just diff position

I dont think Boyce will be that worried tbh.... he has pace and kept some big names in his pocket last season..... not to menti on hazzy is still learning not to dive every three steps

appaently Ryo and Cruzat might get on in the last 20 odd mins thats going to kill you slow defence

our defence isnt slow though lol, Ivanovic is pretty quick and dealt with Ryo easily last year, Luiz was outpacing Aguero and Tevez whilst injured last weeked, Cole is fast, its just Terry thats slow

WWS

my predo for the chelsea prediction league was 1-3, Ramires to score first, ill stick to that i think

i went 0-5

Na no chance on that lol

Wigan will get a goal, either Di Santo showing us we should have kept him or Moses showing us we should stump up the cash for him

Wigan 1 - Moses
Chelsea 3 - Ramires, Torres, Terry

and besides when you talk about your impact subs we have Sturridge, Oscar,Bertrand, Meireles

i dont care how good your team looks on paper though lstd because it isnt played on paper.... look at arsenal yesterday everyone backed them and sunderland got a draw.... its about the teams on the day

Exactly Wigan

i did attempt to point out to you that Sunderland werent as bad as you were making out

not saying we will 100% beat you anyway just saying with what we have we should be and need to be winning these opening games while we have some easier fixtures but december is a hard month for us, particularly as we have to go to the club world cup as well

I cant wait i could see us snatching a draw tbh

Lol lstd just because Ivanovic kept Ryo quiet last year doesnt mean it'll happen again

Also sunderland are terrible at the moment and MON knows it ..... Rumors today is along with AJ..... Zaha,Fletcher,Ollson and anouther ST are signing with us

i never said that wilshere, wigan was saying we have a slow defence which will be good for ryo and crusat, i was pointing out ivanovic luiz and cole aren't slow

3/4 of your defence are di cks though