Hulk has played only 2 games, scoring once, so calm down and see how he does before you judge him. He is still a class player

Who's Ahmadi? GK?

I think he should have stayed at Porto because like TJ says Porto > Zenit and if not then he had the chance to go to Chelsea but it never happened.

1. The russian league has better players
2. The russian league is more competitive

therefore the russian league is better

I rate my players through quality not what league they play in. and if you should his rating shouldnt go down that quickly. maybe in a year or 2 when he clearly isnt improving you lower your rating but its too early atm

Exactly Wilshere, he has only played 2 games so far. And he has scored in one of them, he has settled down well.

That Malaga bashing was down to Malaga's quality this season, lie 2nd in La Liga, with 3 wins and 1 draw.

Zenit are a very good team, and the Portuguese league is slowly declining, Lost Witsel, Hulk and plenty of others, whilst very nearly losing Moutinho, and very soon, James would be next.

The Russian league only has better players and better competition because Russia just have all the money with it being the biggest country in the World so the teams are getting more money beause of the economy.

He had better options and he chose the worst IMO.

Ahamada is the french u21 keeper, he is at hull, fantasic young gk

Porto is cut above the rest in the portuguese league. no one really can challenge any more. maybe Benfica but others are no where near as good.

It is because they are producing and buying the best in Portugal. Even if they do go still plenty of quality left in the league.

So? Same could be said about the PL and rich sugar daddy's such as Chelsea and City? Whilst Uts, Liverpool and Spurs have all spent big.

Madrid and Barca have spent shedloads as well.

Porto>>>>> Benfica >>>>>> Sporting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Braga>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else

Whilst the Russian League has 5/6 teams very close to each other

That will probably be the same in Russia really. How long before Anzhi and Zenit become a cut above CSKA Moscow leaving it just them 2? Zenit being the best team in the league by a distance and Anzhi almost like a tag along?

1/2 seasons tops I'm saying

If Hulk plays say 3 years in Russia and then comes to the EPL. id be pretty confident he'd be one of the leagues best

Anyone know when MOTD starts?

I wouldn't Wilshere. Hulk is 26, he's an attacking player so he's in the prime of his career.

Obviously his quality is still the same.

But if he'd moved to a top league playing at a higher level week in week out for a better team, he could have become a better player. That isn't going to happen in Russia.

CSKA are a class team.

Russian League's status will only rise, unlike Portuguese League's, who have seen:

Veloso, Mierless, Falcao, Hulk, Witsel, Coentrao, Jaou Periera, Alvaro Periera and plenty of others leave in the last 2 years

He is 26 and at his prime in his career and has just moved down if you ask me. Porto ? Zenit IMO and in most people's really.

if he moves in 3 years he will be 29 and slowly his ratings will start to drop like most players.

Bu what are they spending these ays Number 21?

Zenit and Anzhi will be spending bucket loads of cash to bring the top players into their country and CSKA will evtually drop off.

What would people say is the best joint 11 for Wolves, Man Utd, Liverpool, Portsmouth now?

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What about Newcastle?

RVP has found the best form of his life at 28/29 and Drogba look at how good he was at that age.

Porto are a good team but zenit are no much worse if at all

Those players have left, but its always the same in Portugal, they're replaced.

Same before with likes of Carvalho, Deco, Ferreira, Bosingwa, Ronaldo, Nani etc etc

As well as Javi Garcia of course.

LRF, CSKA have money as well you know

But not as much as Anzhi and Znit who will be spending over 100M Euro's every transfer window!

Porto have still got the better players really than Zenit.

But it won't last though. As soon as he hits 30/31 he will slowly move dwn the pecking order as injuries will affet him.

The same has happened with Drogba

cska have plenty of money and are much much better than anzhi and not far of zenit. still manage to keep hold of class players like dzagoev, honda ect

anzhi can have as much money as they want but players wont stay there for long because of the racism. surprised etoo has stayed for so long, think if he was any younger hed have left ages ago tbh

Could anyone confirm the time of MOTD for me please?

But as soon as that stops they will still just keep increasing in ability in the next 2 seasons or so and will be head and shoulders above CSKA really IMO. Because the players like Dzagoev and Honda are close to leaving and they can't buy class like that back easy.