We are in a huge mess.
It might be for the beat in the long run though. I get the feeling things will get a lot worse.
The squad has been stale for 2 years but they don’t get moved-on.
I think Levy still thinks it’s a good squad and the new manager will get the most out of it. I can’t see it.
Jose was not the answer long term it wasn't working and showed no signs of working so sacking him was probably the only thing Levy has got right in the last 2 years.
Our present manager search shows the complete lack of a coherent plan on the football side that many on here have been saying for years. No skilled DOF in for years, poor transfer policy, no real plan for young players. The only focus has been building a brand with a total rejection of the skilled long term planners needed on the football side. Chickens coming home to roost for the BOD and Levy deserves it for employing a bunch of yes men and women at the top.
There is very little to like about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at the moment...
Uninterested owner
Nauseating and incompetent chairman
No coherent plan for appointing a new manager
A new DoF with close connections to parasitic agents
Little connection between owners and fans
The ESL fiasco
Furloughing staff
A paltry 2 League Cups in 30 years
An increasingly toxic fan base
Star player wants out due to lack of ambition
Ridiculed by the media
Etc
Etc
Jose should of gone. The correct decision was made, but the timing of it was wrong as per usual from Levy. He should of been sacked the moment we lost to Zagreb, then a new manager drafted in or planned for next season. Sacking him before a cup final was criminal.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
I’d rather Martinez than Gattuso but still extremely underwhelming. Anybody can manage that Belgium team and get a tune out of them. Joke club, banter club Fc
Giving Jose his marching orders was the correct decision and so is the decision not to pursue Gattuso. Not many fans will disagree with that. It all falls on the doorstep of the man running the show. A pure lack of foresight that's lead us all into this turmoil.
A squad and a manager like Pochettino only comes together once in a blue moon. When that man who genuinely loves the club with an exemplary record informs his boss of the issues he will face in the long term, doesn't get what he needs but then gets thrown out in return in favour of a load of bollox, it's no wonder the fan base are getting edgy. Pochettino should of been given more time to work with the tools he eventually got given.
Gattuso is not the right manager for us at all.
It's amazing how many think he maybe the answer.
After reading more on him it looked like there was some credibility and rationale for Fonseca.
Gattuso will be Paolo Di Canio on crack.
It will end in riots.
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes that's what I'm thinking now too defo
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 5 minutes ago
The problems started with appointing Jose in the first place, not sacking him. As predicted, that appointment was a bad fit and ended in disaster. At the time Poch was removed we should’ve been more proactive in our forward planning. For me there’s an argument that Poch should’ve stayed, and been allowed to complete the rebuild he’d only just started, he had earned it. But, at the very least, we should’ve brought in a manager then of a similar ilk that could’ve continued his work on the foundations he’d laid, such as Nagelsmaan, rather than tearing up five years development and going for a quick fix like Jose just because Levy was cacking his pants about missing out on top 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep an appalling appointment which has set the club back at least 5 years. Chelsea can make these mistakes we cant and if we do there had better be a long term fix brewing to fix it which sadly there isnt
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 57 minutes ago
There is very little to like about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at the moment...
Uninterested owner
Nauseating and incompetent chairman
No coherent plan for appointing a new manager
A new DoF with close connections to parasitic agents
Little connection between owners and fans
The ESL fiasco
Furloughing staff
A paltry 2 League Cups in 30 years
An increasingly toxic fan base
Star player wants out due to lack of ambition
Ridiculed by the media
Etc
Etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You missed one out...
Bitter fans
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 6 minutes ago
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only way the team gets anything like a meaningful rebuild now is by selling Kane and reinvesting the profits.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is why getting the right coach that fits the bill is so important. I'm amazed he can't see that.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 6 minutes ago
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only way the team gets anything like a meaningful rebuild now is by selling Kane and reinvesting the profits.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is why getting the right coach that fits the bill is so important. I'm amazed he can't see that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’re at a stage where we have to accept reality. Of the remaining options I would go straight to Potter, pay what’s needed to bring him to WHL, accept that Kane wants out, get a reasonable deal for him - £125m seems realistic. Potter to work with Paratici on bringing in some quality (not quantity) to improve our squad with the profits from Kane + selling deadwood. Lamptey and Bissouma from Brighton with Potter would immediately improve us. Skriniar via Paratici, Anderson, find a striker, get cracking on pre season. This has dragged on too long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I couldn’t agree with this more. Unfortunately this simply will not happen with levy. Next season is a write off people. We have so much to do in the close season. But we are way too far behind now to get it done. I think the next three years will be mid table or Europa at best. Maybe if Enic sort their sh 1t out and get the structure in place where we beat the likes of Leicester to players like kante, Maddison etc then in three or four years we might get back close to where we were under Poch.
I’m the meantime I feel sorry for those paying the highest prices for utter mediocrity
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 2 weeks ago
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Page 1 of 1
First
Previous
1
Next
Latest
Sign in if you want to comment
We could see this coming...
Page 1 of 1
posted on 18/6/21
We are in a huge mess.
It might be for the beat in the long run though. I get the feeling things will get a lot worse.
The squad has been stale for 2 years but they don’t get moved-on.
I think Levy still thinks it’s a good squad and the new manager will get the most out of it. I can’t see it.
posted on 18/6/21
Jose was not the answer long term it wasn't working and showed no signs of working so sacking him was probably the only thing Levy has got right in the last 2 years.
Our present manager search shows the complete lack of a coherent plan on the football side that many on here have been saying for years. No skilled DOF in for years, poor transfer policy, no real plan for young players. The only focus has been building a brand with a total rejection of the skilled long term planners needed on the football side. Chickens coming home to roost for the BOD and Levy deserves it for employing a bunch of yes men and women at the top.
posted on 18/6/21
There is very little to like about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at the moment...
Uninterested owner
Nauseating and incompetent chairman
No coherent plan for appointing a new manager
A new DoF with close connections to parasitic agents
Little connection between owners and fans
The ESL fiasco
Furloughing staff
A paltry 2 League Cups in 30 years
An increasingly toxic fan base
Star player wants out due to lack of ambition
Ridiculed by the media
Etc
Etc
posted on 18/6/21
Jose should of gone. The correct decision was made, but the timing of it was wrong as per usual from Levy. He should of been sacked the moment we lost to Zagreb, then a new manager drafted in or planned for next season. Sacking him before a cup final was criminal.
posted on 18/6/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/6/21
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
posted on 18/6/21
I’d rather Martinez than Gattuso but still extremely underwhelming. Anybody can manage that Belgium team and get a tune out of them. Joke club, banter club Fc
posted on 18/6/21
Giving Jose his marching orders was the correct decision and so is the decision not to pursue Gattuso. Not many fans will disagree with that. It all falls on the doorstep of the man running the show. A pure lack of foresight that's lead us all into this turmoil.
A squad and a manager like Pochettino only comes together once in a blue moon. When that man who genuinely loves the club with an exemplary record informs his boss of the issues he will face in the long term, doesn't get what he needs but then gets thrown out in return in favour of a load of bollox, it's no wonder the fan base are getting edgy. Pochettino should of been given more time to work with the tools he eventually got given.
posted on 18/6/21
Gattuso is not the right manager for us at all.
It's amazing how many think he maybe the answer.
After reading more on him it looked like there was some credibility and rationale for Fonseca.
Gattuso will be Paolo Di Canio on crack.
It will end in riots.
posted on 18/6/21
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes that's what I'm thinking now too defo
posted on 18/6/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/6/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 5 minutes ago
The problems started with appointing Jose in the first place, not sacking him. As predicted, that appointment was a bad fit and ended in disaster. At the time Poch was removed we should’ve been more proactive in our forward planning. For me there’s an argument that Poch should’ve stayed, and been allowed to complete the rebuild he’d only just started, he had earned it. But, at the very least, we should’ve brought in a manager then of a similar ilk that could’ve continued his work on the foundations he’d laid, such as Nagelsmaan, rather than tearing up five years development and going for a quick fix like Jose just because Levy was cacking his pants about missing out on top 4.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep an appalling appointment which has set the club back at least 5 years. Chelsea can make these mistakes we cant and if we do there had better be a long term fix brewing to fix it which sadly there isnt
posted on 18/6/21
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
posted on 18/6/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/6/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 57 minutes ago
There is very little to like about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club at the moment...
Uninterested owner
Nauseating and incompetent chairman
No coherent plan for appointing a new manager
A new DoF with close connections to parasitic agents
Little connection between owners and fans
The ESL fiasco
Furloughing staff
A paltry 2 League Cups in 30 years
An increasingly toxic fan base
Star player wants out due to lack of ambition
Ridiculed by the media
Etc
Etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You missed one out...
Bitter fans
posted on 18/6/21
Namely yourself
posted on 18/6/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 6 minutes ago
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only way the team gets anything like a meaningful rebuild now is by selling Kane and reinvesting the profits.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is why getting the right coach that fits the bill is so important. I'm amazed he can't see that.
posted on 18/6/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/6/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 6 minutes ago
It seems to me now that breaking back into that top 4 we'll be seen more as a bonus to Levy than a priority over the next few years. The squad needs huge investment, there's not much knocking about in the academy. No champions league revenue and draw to improve the squad to the levels it needs. It'll all be about consolidating now. Levy simply didn't invest at the right time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only way the team gets anything like a meaningful rebuild now is by selling Kane and reinvesting the profits.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is why getting the right coach that fits the bill is so important. I'm amazed he can't see that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’re at a stage where we have to accept reality. Of the remaining options I would go straight to Potter, pay what’s needed to bring him to WHL, accept that Kane wants out, get a reasonable deal for him - £125m seems realistic. Potter to work with Paratici on bringing in some quality (not quantity) to improve our squad with the profits from Kane + selling deadwood. Lamptey and Bissouma from Brighton with Potter would immediately improve us. Skriniar via Paratici, Anderson, find a striker, get cracking on pre season. This has dragged on too long.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I couldn’t agree with this more. Unfortunately this simply will not happen with levy. Next season is a write off people. We have so much to do in the close season. But we are way too far behind now to get it done. I think the next three years will be mid table or Europa at best. Maybe if Enic sort their sh 1t out and get the structure in place where we beat the likes of Leicester to players like kante, Maddison etc then in three or four years we might get back close to where we were under Poch.
I’m the meantime I feel sorry for those paying the highest prices for utter mediocrity
posted on 2/7/21
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 2 weeks ago
I think the issue is we cannot announce anything.
I’m 99.9 percent sure it’s Roberto Martinez but we are not allowed to announce because of Belgium’s euros.
Levy even alluded to it the other day that he is fed up of all the rumours.
Think of it another way there isn’t a big name out there we can get by leaking all the rumours roberto Martinez suddenly becomes a bit more palatable with no uproar.
We always have a plan. Always there’s no way we sacked Jose without it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Page 1 of 1