comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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since when have spurs ever had a team settled and ready for the start of the season? why would this season be any different?
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What, so that makes it right then? How about we actually start a season prepared then for once. Shambolic fraud chairman that hasn’t got a f** clue what he’s doing on the football side of things and never has done. I told you that 8 years ago mate.
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no.. but with a summer where we need a new manager, star player wants out, new DOF, club in a mess on and off pitch, and the euros, you cannot hold any reasonable expectation that we would be organised enough to be ready for the start of the season....
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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since when have spurs ever had a team settled and ready for the start of the season? why would this season be any different?
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What, so that makes it right then? How about we actually start a season prepared then for once. Shambolic fraud chairman that hasn’t got a f** clue what he’s doing on the football side of things and never has done. I told you that 8 years ago mate.
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no.. but with a summer where we need a new manager, star player wants out, new DOF, club in a mess on and off pitch, and the euros, you cannot hold any reasonable expectation that we would be organised enough to be ready for the start of the season....
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Ive a feeling a lot of the fans will be letting Enic know exactly what we think of them next season.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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I never quite get all the pre season nonsense. Most of the players never play in all the friendlies anyway. Up to the players to make sure they are fit and raring to go at the start of the season.
It will be fine Don, stop worrying.
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Turkey and Russia are out now, so negotiations can properly begin. Maybe they'll do a joint venture?
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 53 seconds ago
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
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I like the last paragraph.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
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unbelievable (yet believable) if true
Also worth mentioning that both of Paratici's more recent picks since he dropped Fonseca like a stone are Gattuso and Nuno, both represented by Mendes. We're falling into the same trap we did with Jose. Hiring a manager that has the key (via the agent) to a whole host of players. If we haven't got the money then that's worthless. Is Paratici only as good as the agents he deals with? You just know he's been tipped off by Mendes about the availability of managers on his books but I wish that little rat would just pizz off and crawl back under the rock he was hiding in. That's no way to hire a manager and if that's Paratici's method, I don't want to know.
This guy is a walking disaster and he doesn't even take charge officially for another 10 days. You couldn't make it up.
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 53 seconds ago
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
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I like the last paragraph.
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So true though. My brother was already a Spurs fan and he wanted me to support Arsenal so we could have some brotherly rivalry. That was never going to happen but look how close I could have come to glory. If it wasn't for Gascoigne, I might never have been a Spurs fan.
comment by ErikThor (U22540)
posted 2 minutes ago
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
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Exactly.
This falls on Levy though at the end of the day. He talks of returning to progressive attacking football as part of our DNA and doesn't do any kind of thorough background check on the DoF. That appointment is more crucial than any manager is as he's then responsible for defining that DNA that hires manager and players to ensure continuity, should any leave.
So on this new pathway, this new look Spurs we've made a huge mistake with the first decision that had to be made. What we've done is we've essentially fallen hard, face down on the first hurdle of the Grand National. I think the most humane thing to do now is just shoot the horse.
Your hunch is it an international manager. Mine is it will be someone who manages at a club.
As incompentant Levy is, surely he will have someone in charge for pre season.
Saying that Journo's are clickbait merchants is abit snowflakey. I mean they only reporting on what they hear and judging by the amount of time it is taking to hire a new manager plus the utter shambolic way Levy has handled everything I would say they have been spot on.
Most journo's get their info from agents or press officers from the club. They might not get everything right but at least their source is usually close to the information which is better than believing in a "hunch".
"Don't listen to clickbait media"...
..."I understand from the media"
NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ErikThor (U22540)
posted 2 minutes ago
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
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Exactly.
This falls on Levy though at the end of the day. He talks of returning to progressive attacking football as part of our DNA and doesn't do any kind of thorough background check on the DoF. That appointment is more crucial than any manager is as he's then responsible for defining that DNA that hires manager and players to ensure continuity, should any leave.
So on this new pathway, this new look Spurs we've made a huge mistake with the first decision that had to be made. What we've done is we've essentially fallen hard, face down on the first hurdle of the Grand National. I think the most humane thing to do now is just shoot the horse.
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When it comes to making football decisions Levy time and time again doesn't learn from past mistakes. Paratici is the new Baldini. Just a bad fit it seems.
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
Your hunch is it an international manager. Mine is it will be someone who manages at a club.
As incompentant Levy is, surely he will have someone in charge for pre season.
Saying that Journo's are clickbait merchants is abit snowflakey. I mean they only reporting on what they hear and judging by the amount of time it is taking to hire a new manager plus the utter shambolic way Levy has handled everything I would say they have been spot on.
Most journo's get their info from agents or press officers from the club. They might not get everything right but at least their source is usually close to the information which is better than believing in a "hunch".
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The window for us to sign a manager already at a club is fast closing, if not already closed. Pre-season starts in 2 weeks and prior to that managers at all clubs will be having recruitment discussions with the hierarchy to best advise on where they should strengthen. Plucking a manager at an existing club at this stage really disrupts not only their pre-season but all recruitment plans up to that point. That's why it was a minor miracle Ajax were willing to listen to us.
As we've learned from he Poch fiasco, it isn't just about being able to afford the pay off. Clubs can just say no as with PSG. Unless a manager resigns his position, it's not easy and it's far harder now than it was a month ago.
I guess Ajax are one of few clubs that have a philosophy strong enough to be able to make plans without a manager in place. Any replacement manager they bring in is never going to affect their recruitment targets. That's probably why they listened. We won't have the same luck with many other clubs.
My hunch is that it will be an out of work manager. A Mendes one. Probably Nuno.
Sack Mourinho, talk of a return to the club's DNA and then hire his protege. Nice one! What a mess.
Not sure if Fonseca is a Mendes client but he is out of work so not sure why we didn't hire him.
Anyway it's all a mess. Agree with you about the recruitment bit. We are falling behind AGAIN.
https://twitter.com/Lilywhite_Rose/status/1407289440515592195?s=19
This is excellent
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 41 minutes ago
Not sure if Fonseca is a Mendes client but he is out of work so not sure why we didn't hire him.
Anyway it's all a mess. Agree with you about the recruitment bit. We are falling behind AGAIN.
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I don't think he is either. A lot of people that claim to be in the know are saying that there were disagreements regarding the style of play and where the focus should be when they discussed plans for the summer. Fonseca is a front foot coach so naturally wanted players that fit that profile - progressive, ball players at the back that are the starting point of attacks. Paratici is more conservative and wants a solid defence. He'd say defenders aren't there to start attacks but to stop goals. That is completely at odds with the club and Levy's philosophy.
Paratici cut off contact as he considered Fonseca too forward thinking as a coach. That's why he went for Gattuso so anyone dreaming of us hiring ETH or Graham Potter can wake up. It's not gonna happen all the time we have this miserable sod in charge of football operations.
The fact that Paraici even thought about Guttuso in the first place should be a sackable offence. What page are him and Levy on?
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
All clubs can do is agree fees subject to medical and who would agree a fee when a player could get injured at Euros or Copa? This leaves you only able to sign or sell players not at competitions or Free transfers.
The rest of these rumours are only rumours as clickbait.
Levys media management is the real issue. Everything else isn't really a panic. The press just want us to be the circus and our PR team is obliging.
Fact is no manager is doing much right now. There won't be any preseason tours like previous years so press are overstating the need for a manager to be in early.
Main thing is Paratici gets rid of deadwood that are not in continental competitions.
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Bull!
Most European club managers are back this weekl.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
All clubs can do is agree fees subject to medical and who would agree a fee when a player could get injured at Euros or Copa? This leaves you only able to sign or sell players not at competitions or Free transfers.
The rest of these rumours are only rumours as clickbait.
Levys media management is the real issue. Everything else isn't really a panic. The press just want us to be the circus and our PR team is obliging.
Fact is no manager is doing much right now. There won't be any preseason tours like previous years so press are overstating the need for a manager to be in early.
Main thing is Paratici gets rid of deadwood that are not in continental competitions.
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Bull!
Most European club managers are back this weekl.
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Read what I wrote. Yes the managers might we working but the players aren't. You don't need to be sat in the club office to work.
Technically Paratici doesn't start till July 1st either
Don't let the press make you neurotic.
The problem that Levy dude has is that he's trying to find a better manager than Jose Mourinho.
The delay is because he is finding out what everyone else already knows - there is no better manager than Mourinho
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posted on 22/6/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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since when have spurs ever had a team settled and ready for the start of the season? why would this season be any different?
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What, so that makes it right then? How about we actually start a season prepared then for once. Shambolic fraud chairman that hasn’t got a f** clue what he’s doing on the football side of things and never has done. I told you that 8 years ago mate.
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no.. but with a summer where we need a new manager, star player wants out, new DOF, club in a mess on and off pitch, and the euros, you cannot hold any reasonable expectation that we would be organised enough to be ready for the start of the season....
posted on 22/6/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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since when have spurs ever had a team settled and ready for the start of the season? why would this season be any different?
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What, so that makes it right then? How about we actually start a season prepared then for once. Shambolic fraud chairman that hasn’t got a f** clue what he’s doing on the football side of things and never has done. I told you that 8 years ago mate.
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no.. but with a summer where we need a new manager, star player wants out, new DOF, club in a mess on and off pitch, and the euros, you cannot hold any reasonable expectation that we would be organised enough to be ready for the start of the season....
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Ive a feeling a lot of the fans will be letting Enic know exactly what we think of them next season.
posted on 22/6/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
OP
Does it really matter. A new manager will be in place for the start of the season, and that is all you and everybody else needs to know.
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It does matter Sandy. We have pre season in 2 weeks and still no manager. We need the team prepared and ready for the season. It’s a complete shambles what is going on. Why can’t you see this ?
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I never quite get all the pre season nonsense. Most of the players never play in all the friendlies anyway. Up to the players to make sure they are fit and raring to go at the start of the season.
It will be fine Don, stop worrying.
posted on 22/6/21
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posted on 22/6/21
Turkey and Russia are out now, so negotiations can properly begin. Maybe they'll do a joint venture?
posted on 22/6/21
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
posted on 22/6/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 53 seconds ago
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
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I like the last paragraph.
posted on 22/6/21
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
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unbelievable (yet believable) if true
posted on 22/6/21
Also worth mentioning that both of Paratici's more recent picks since he dropped Fonseca like a stone are Gattuso and Nuno, both represented by Mendes. We're falling into the same trap we did with Jose. Hiring a manager that has the key (via the agent) to a whole host of players. If we haven't got the money then that's worthless. Is Paratici only as good as the agents he deals with? You just know he's been tipped off by Mendes about the availability of managers on his books but I wish that little rat would just pizz off and crawl back under the rock he was hiding in. That's no way to hire a manager and if that's Paratici's method, I don't want to know.
This guy is a walking disaster and he doesn't even take charge officially for another 10 days. You couldn't make it up.
posted on 22/6/21
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
posted on 22/6/21
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 53 seconds ago
Apparently Levy, Hitchen and Paratici are all pulling in different directions with varying ideas about the kind of manager and therefore style the club needs.
Hitchen appears to have been sidelined but his picks are rumoured to be Poch, ETH and Potter which I think are easily the most suitable candidates for the way the club is run.
Paratici wants a more defensive Italian style coach which is why the Fonseca deal broke down apparently. We are not that club. That's why things went wrong with Jose. Why the hell are we hiring someone who is a direct contradiction of the quotes we heard from Levy in May?
Levy himself represents the indecision and tug of war between Hitchen and Paratici. He has two opposing opinions in his ear which is probably why we're seeing this flip-flopping going on constantly between manager picks.
If ETH is available, eager, affordable and Ajax are willing to play ball then why the hell aren't we snatching their hands off? He's perfect for us. He ticks every single box Levy asked for. My feeling is that if we didn't have Paratici in, this would have been done by now. He's thrown a spanner in the works as he doesn't want to work with anyone he doesn't pick himself, likely a Serie A defensively minded coach. That's where the problem is. Levy knows whoever he picks will pizz off either his DoF or the fans for not sticking to his word on the club 'DNA'.
God, I hate this club. I hate the fact that in any other walk of life you can just step away. In a dead end relationship? Leave. In a sheet job? Leave. Your club side represents the longest love affair we'll all have in our lifetimes and we've been lumped with a right fugly for eternity. Jeez!
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I like the last paragraph.
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So true though. My brother was already a Spurs fan and he wanted me to support Arsenal so we could have some brotherly rivalry. That was never going to happen but look how close I could have come to glory. If it wasn't for Gascoigne, I might never have been a Spurs fan.
posted on 22/6/21
comment by ErikThor (U22540)
posted 2 minutes ago
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
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Exactly.
This falls on Levy though at the end of the day. He talks of returning to progressive attacking football as part of our DNA and doesn't do any kind of thorough background check on the DoF. That appointment is more crucial than any manager is as he's then responsible for defining that DNA that hires manager and players to ensure continuity, should any leave.
So on this new pathway, this new look Spurs we've made a huge mistake with the first decision that had to be made. What we've done is we've essentially fallen hard, face down on the first hurdle of the Grand National. I think the most humane thing to do now is just shoot the horse.
posted on 22/6/21
Your hunch is it an international manager. Mine is it will be someone who manages at a club.
As incompentant Levy is, surely he will have someone in charge for pre season.
Saying that Journo's are clickbait merchants is abit snowflakey. I mean they only reporting on what they hear and judging by the amount of time it is taking to hire a new manager plus the utter shambolic way Levy has handled everything I would say they have been spot on.
Most journo's get their info from agents or press officers from the club. They might not get everything right but at least their source is usually close to the information which is better than believing in a "hunch".
posted on 22/6/21
"Don't listen to clickbait media"...
..."I understand from the media"
NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING!
posted on 22/6/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ErikThor (U22540)
posted 2 minutes ago
Paratici is completely the wrong appointment as DOF at Spurs.
Reports in Italy say he was poor after Marotta (his boss) left Juventus
Signs mainly well known fading superstars on huge wages or well known young players for huge fees
Levy is mates with him and has "known him years"
Jorge Mendes will be running our recruitment program
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Spurs
Thought Gattuso would be a good fit at Juventus
Likes Nuno due to Mendes telling him so
Only knows Serie A uses Mendes for everything else
Poor record at bringing through young players
Doesnt seem to like progressive football managers (ETH, Potter)
Makes Steve Hitchen look like he knows what hes talking about
Much better choices out there that fit Spurs' DNA but yet again our tin pot dictator knows best like he did when he sacked Poch and hired the washed up has been that is Mourinho.
I would sack Paratici now before he has even officially started and go cap in hand to Rangnick. Then grovel to ETH to get him in as head coach if not him then Potter if not then who Rangnick recommends from the Bundesliga. Pigs might fly
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Exactly.
This falls on Levy though at the end of the day. He talks of returning to progressive attacking football as part of our DNA and doesn't do any kind of thorough background check on the DoF. That appointment is more crucial than any manager is as he's then responsible for defining that DNA that hires manager and players to ensure continuity, should any leave.
So on this new pathway, this new look Spurs we've made a huge mistake with the first decision that had to be made. What we've done is we've essentially fallen hard, face down on the first hurdle of the Grand National. I think the most humane thing to do now is just shoot the horse.
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When it comes to making football decisions Levy time and time again doesn't learn from past mistakes. Paratici is the new Baldini. Just a bad fit it seems.
posted on 22/6/21
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
Your hunch is it an international manager. Mine is it will be someone who manages at a club.
As incompentant Levy is, surely he will have someone in charge for pre season.
Saying that Journo's are clickbait merchants is abit snowflakey. I mean they only reporting on what they hear and judging by the amount of time it is taking to hire a new manager plus the utter shambolic way Levy has handled everything I would say they have been spot on.
Most journo's get their info from agents or press officers from the club. They might not get everything right but at least their source is usually close to the information which is better than believing in a "hunch".
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The window for us to sign a manager already at a club is fast closing, if not already closed. Pre-season starts in 2 weeks and prior to that managers at all clubs will be having recruitment discussions with the hierarchy to best advise on where they should strengthen. Plucking a manager at an existing club at this stage really disrupts not only their pre-season but all recruitment plans up to that point. That's why it was a minor miracle Ajax were willing to listen to us.
As we've learned from he Poch fiasco, it isn't just about being able to afford the pay off. Clubs can just say no as with PSG. Unless a manager resigns his position, it's not easy and it's far harder now than it was a month ago.
I guess Ajax are one of few clubs that have a philosophy strong enough to be able to make plans without a manager in place. Any replacement manager they bring in is never going to affect their recruitment targets. That's probably why they listened. We won't have the same luck with many other clubs.
My hunch is that it will be an out of work manager. A Mendes one. Probably Nuno.
Sack Mourinho, talk of a return to the club's DNA and then hire his protege. Nice one! What a mess.
posted on 22/6/21
Not sure if Fonseca is a Mendes client but he is out of work so not sure why we didn't hire him.
Anyway it's all a mess. Agree with you about the recruitment bit. We are falling behind AGAIN.
posted on 22/6/21
https://twitter.com/Lilywhite_Rose/status/1407289440515592195?s=19
This is excellent
posted on 22/6/21
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 41 minutes ago
Not sure if Fonseca is a Mendes client but he is out of work so not sure why we didn't hire him.
Anyway it's all a mess. Agree with you about the recruitment bit. We are falling behind AGAIN.
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I don't think he is either. A lot of people that claim to be in the know are saying that there were disagreements regarding the style of play and where the focus should be when they discussed plans for the summer. Fonseca is a front foot coach so naturally wanted players that fit that profile - progressive, ball players at the back that are the starting point of attacks. Paratici is more conservative and wants a solid defence. He'd say defenders aren't there to start attacks but to stop goals. That is completely at odds with the club and Levy's philosophy.
Paratici cut off contact as he considered Fonseca too forward thinking as a coach. That's why he went for Gattuso so anyone dreaming of us hiring ETH or Graham Potter can wake up. It's not gonna happen all the time we have this miserable sod in charge of football operations.
posted on 22/6/21
The fact that Paraici even thought about Guttuso in the first place should be a sackable offence. What page are him and Levy on?
posted on 22/6/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
All clubs can do is agree fees subject to medical and who would agree a fee when a player could get injured at Euros or Copa? This leaves you only able to sign or sell players not at competitions or Free transfers.
The rest of these rumours are only rumours as clickbait.
Levys media management is the real issue. Everything else isn't really a panic. The press just want us to be the circus and our PR team is obliging.
Fact is no manager is doing much right now. There won't be any preseason tours like previous years so press are overstating the need for a manager to be in early.
Main thing is Paratici gets rid of deadwood that are not in continental competitions.
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Bull!
Most European club managers are back this weekl.
posted on 22/6/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
All clubs can do is agree fees subject to medical and who would agree a fee when a player could get injured at Euros or Copa? This leaves you only able to sign or sell players not at competitions or Free transfers.
The rest of these rumours are only rumours as clickbait.
Levys media management is the real issue. Everything else isn't really a panic. The press just want us to be the circus and our PR team is obliging.
Fact is no manager is doing much right now. There won't be any preseason tours like previous years so press are overstating the need for a manager to be in early.
Main thing is Paratici gets rid of deadwood that are not in continental competitions.
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Bull!
Most European club managers are back this weekl.
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Read what I wrote. Yes the managers might we working but the players aren't. You don't need to be sat in the club office to work.
posted on 22/6/21
Technically Paratici doesn't start till July 1st either
posted on 22/6/21
Don't let the press make you neurotic.
posted on 22/6/21
The problem that Levy dude has is that he's trying to find a better manager than Jose Mourinho.
The delay is because he is finding out what everyone else already knows - there is no better manager than Mourinho
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