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posted on 29/6/21

Updated analysis from National Records Scotland…

2020
- highest number of deaths for 32 years 64,093

- fewest numbers of births since records began in 1855 - 46,809

Natural population shrinkage of 17,284, for which chart below shows as a record…

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/vital-events-reference-tables/2020

posted on 29/6/21


Don’t forget to factor in immigration stats.

Net 300,000 extra people in the UK.

posted on 29/6/21

I'm sure there will be a whole host of factors, I imagine that societal pressure on women is completely different, as their options have increased, so have their career opportunities and my assumption would be that more women than ever are opting to focus on career over family. Then there's rona and the deaths caused as well as preventing people from mingling.

Purely anecdotal but I know people who have shelved plans for children, mainly due to the hospital rules around child birth and visitors etc, they've decided to put it off a bit. Same with weddings, several people have pushed these back as well.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 29/6/21

According to that graph, deaths have also been increasing in the last decade.

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Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.

posted on 29/6/21

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
According to that graph, deaths have also been increasing in the last decade.
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Probably down to the UK having more people than ever living in it.Percentage of population wise won't be on the rise

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.
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Expect to see more pandemics in the coming years

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.
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The only concerning thing, is with the average life expectancy on an upward curve and more people not having kids, who does the burden fall on to look after these childless old folk?

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.
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The only concerning thing, is with the average life expectancy on an upward curve and more people not having kids, who does the burden fall on to look after these childless old folk?


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Childless old folk will likely have more money saved.

posted on 29/6/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 minutes ago
Some pretty conclusive studies around the impact in sperm count with various products on the market and foods we consume too. Whether that is impacting things now I don't know, but it will definitely influence things in the future if it carries on at the rate it has over the last 10 years.
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That study has since been questioned by others in the field.

posted on 29/6/21

Gone are the days where you have families with 4 plus children. You just can't afford to have too many children.

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 minutes ago
Some pretty conclusive studies around the impact in sperm count with various products on the market and foods we consume too. Whether that is impacting things now I don't know, but it will definitely influence things in the future if it carries on at the rate it has over the last 10 years.
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That study has since been questioned by others in the field.
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Sorry. The study on p.enjs size decreasing not sperm count. You are right

posted on 29/6/21

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268830/unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/

UK unemployment rate is 4.8% which is at the lower end in Europe,so lower birth rates should be right across Europe with the Med countries showing the most falls.

posted on 29/6/21

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The only concerning thing, is with the average life expectancy on an upward curve and more people not having kids, who does the burden fall on to look after these childless old folk?


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Childless old folk will likely have more money saved.
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Money that is going to sucked up by the gov through their pensions and the ridiculous priced elderly health care system.

posted on 29/6/21

It's a start but really a global population down to the millions rather than billions is the only way the natural ecosystems will even have a chance to survive or recover

A pipe dream obviously, instead business and governments will do all they can to keep the worlds Ponzi based, destructive economies going

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comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 9 minutes ago
Some pretty conclusive studies around the impact in sperm count with various products on the market and foods we consume too. Whether that is impacting things now I don't know, but it will definitely influence things in the future if it carries on at the rate it has over the last 10 years.
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That study has since been questioned by others in the field.
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Sorry. The study on p.enjs size decreasing not sperm count. You are right
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I was ahead of my time

posted on 29/6/21

Does anyone know how much a child costs on average a year?

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 19 seconds ago
Does anyone know how much a child costs on average a year?
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no way of putting a figure on that kind of thing... like asking how long is a piece of string

posted on 29/6/21

Interestingly China have gone from a 2 child limit to 3 child so they just be concerned about falling birth rates too.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 29/6/21

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.
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The only concerning thing, is with the average life expectancy on an upward curve and more people not having kids, who does the burden fall on to look after these childless old folk?


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Childless old folk will likely have more money saved.
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I’m today’s world, people won’t even have a mortgage paid off or a pension pot to pi$$ in, never mind money saved.

posted on 29/6/21

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posted on 29/6/21

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does this actually worry anyone? We can’t escape from the fact that less humans means less impact on the planet which is obviously a good thing overall.
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The only concerning thing, is with the average life expectancy on an upward curve and more people not having kids, who does the burden fall on to look after these childless old folk?


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Childless old folk will likely have more money saved.
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I’m today’s world, people won’t even have a mortgage paid off or a pension pot to pi$$ in, never mind money saved.
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That’s the same with or without children though. But without children people are more likely to have more money in retirement due to obvious reasons.

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