I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
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It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
The only thing golden about the ‘96 team, was the amount of beer they downed in China.
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we'll see if they have the character in the next game or two
alot of pressure on england now
at home
expected to win
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
just my opinion
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comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 54 seconds ago
The only thing golden about the ‘96 team, was the amount of beer they downed in China.
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played one stand out game against NL in that tournament...that was it
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Player for player, I think the other two teams and squads you have mentioned are superior to this one.
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Is that even up for debate? You had world class midfielders keepers and centre backs, we’ve got none of those today. Our strength mostly relies in attack.
comment by Striketeam7 - #WhatwouldSandydo (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
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It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
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in that era there was alot more really high quality international teams than in this era...which has no stand out international teams
think of how good the brazil team that KOed England in the 02 WC was
Rivaldo, Ronaldinho,Ronaldo front line
Roberto Carlos and Cafu as FBs
If the present England team played that Brazil team of 02, they'd lose too
It is interesting comparing golden generations of the teams left.
Spain golden generation: Won the Euros 2008, would cup 2010, Euros 2012.
Italy golden generation: Back to back world cup winners.
Denmark golden generation: Won the Euros 1992 despite being massive outsiders.
England golden generation: Rooney shaagged a granny.
Which golden generation has been the best?
comment by Striketeam7 - #WhatwouldSandydo (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
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It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
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A lot of their downfall was about character. I noticed the irony of Ferdinand, Lampard and Cole praising the mentality of the current England squad when they were self-entitled individuals, no sense of team whatsoever.
Really turned me off international football for quite a while.
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
comment by Barry Smith (U1734)
posted 22 seconds ago
It is interesting comparing golden generations of the teams left.
Spain golden generation: Won the Euros 2008, would cup 2010, Euros 2012.
Italy golden generation: Back to back world cup winners.
Denmark golden generation: Won the Euros 1992 despite being massive outsiders.
England golden generation: Rooney shaagged a granny.
Which golden generation has been the best?
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comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
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need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
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need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
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hmm, would probably have been better to stop digging, rather than advocating conscription
I think this team has enough about it to win the tournament.
No sense in comparing to previous years squads as a great deal has changed since 96, 06 etc. May as well just focus on the here and now because a squad that may have been better years ago does not translate to what is on offer now at this tournament.
I do feel like this is a strong squad all things considered, especially in attacking and full back areas. When you're looking to make changes, the difference in quality between the likes of Mount, Grealish and Foden, for example, isn't a significant difference whereas in previous years it has been.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
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need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
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hmm, would probably have been better to stop digging, rather than advocating conscription
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2 years military service in barracks ...for wimmin aswell
that's what i'd do
not really sure why people are so shocked to be honest.
it was only a few years ago that we won the u17 world cup, so there was clearly a generation of players who were going to come through and who were going to be good enough to compete
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 50 seconds ago
not really sure why people are so shocked to be honest.
it was only a few years ago that we won the u17 world cup, so there was clearly a generation of players who were going to come through and who were going to be good enough to compete
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agree
england have been doing v well lately in youth football...which is a big indicator as to what nations will do well in tournaments in the coming years
alot of investment in modern, high quality coaching by the big clubs and FA in recent years too
england were always gonna get close to the top in international football
Wasn't Foden meant to emulate Gazza in this tournament? Or has he just been drinking in secret? Is that what he meant?
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England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
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tbf it looks like the tears are all yours already
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 20 seconds ago
England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
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they've had 2 major tournaments on the bounce where the draw and route through has been v v kind to them
Yes, current Germany team is a shambles and has been for a number of years...they lost at home to Macedonia in a WC qualifier just a few months back ffs
England were never gonna get a better chance of KOing the Germans...let's be honest
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posted on 5/7/21
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
posted on 5/7/21
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
posted on 5/7/21
The only thing golden about the ‘96 team, was the amount of beer they downed in China.
posted on 5/7/21
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posted on 5/7/21
we'll see if they have the character in the next game or two
alot of pressure on england now
at home
expected to win
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
just my opinion
posted on 5/7/21
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posted on 5/7/21
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 54 seconds ago
The only thing golden about the ‘96 team, was the amount of beer they downed in China.
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played one stand out game against NL in that tournament...that was it
posted on 5/7/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Player for player, I think the other two teams and squads you have mentioned are superior to this one.
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Is that even up for debate? You had world class midfielders keepers and centre backs, we’ve got none of those today. Our strength mostly relies in attack.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Striketeam7 - #WhatwouldSandydo (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
in that era there was alot more really high quality international teams than in this era...which has no stand out international teams
think of how good the brazil team that KOed England in the 02 WC was
Rivaldo, Ronaldinho,Ronaldo front line
Roberto Carlos and Cafu as FBs
If the present England team played that Brazil team of 02, they'd lose too
posted on 5/7/21
It is interesting comparing golden generations of the teams left.
Spain golden generation: Won the Euros 2008, would cup 2010, Euros 2012.
Italy golden generation: Back to back world cup winners.
Denmark golden generation: Won the Euros 1992 despite being massive outsiders.
England golden generation: Rooney shaagged a granny.
Which golden generation has been the best?
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Striketeam7 - #WhatwouldSandydo (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
I thought England's golden generation was the one with Beckham et al?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was, the golden generation was Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Owen, Terry, Cole (both)
That team should have achieved far more than it did and is better all round than both the 96 side and today’s team. However, the 96 side was very experienced and managed to ride a wave of euphoria. The current side plays as a team, and clearly get on well as a squad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A lot of their downfall was about character. I noticed the irony of Ferdinand, Lampard and Cole praising the mentality of the current England squad when they were self-entitled individuals, no sense of team whatsoever.
Really turned me off international football for quite a while.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Barry Smith (U1734)
posted 22 seconds ago
It is interesting comparing golden generations of the teams left.
Spain golden generation: Won the Euros 2008, would cup 2010, Euros 2012.
Italy golden generation: Back to back world cup winners.
Denmark golden generation: Won the Euros 1992 despite being massive outsiders.
England golden generation: Rooney shaagged a granny.
Which golden generation has been the best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
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what a stupid thing to say
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need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
posted on 5/7/21
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what a stupid thing to say
----------------------------------------------------------------------
need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
hmm, would probably have been better to stop digging, rather than advocating conscription
posted on 5/7/21
I think this team has enough about it to win the tournament.
No sense in comparing to previous years squads as a great deal has changed since 96, 06 etc. May as well just focus on the here and now because a squad that may have been better years ago does not translate to what is on offer now at this tournament.
I do feel like this is a strong squad all things considered, especially in attacking and full back areas. When you're looking to make changes, the difference in quality between the likes of Mount, Grealish and Foden, for example, isn't a significant difference whereas in previous years it has been.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
i personally have alot of doubts about the character and bottle of english players, and english people in general
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what a stupid thing to say
----------------------------------------------------------------------
need to bring back military service, and a culture based on values and not materialism
a valid point, not stupid
----------------------------------------------------------------------
hmm, would probably have been better to stop digging, rather than advocating conscription
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2 years military service in barracks ...for wimmin aswell
that's what i'd do
posted on 5/7/21
not really sure why people are so shocked to be honest.
it was only a few years ago that we won the u17 world cup, so there was clearly a generation of players who were going to come through and who were going to be good enough to compete
posted on 5/7/21
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 50 seconds ago
not really sure why people are so shocked to be honest.
it was only a few years ago that we won the u17 world cup, so there was clearly a generation of players who were going to come through and who were going to be good enough to compete
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agree
england have been doing v well lately in youth football...which is a big indicator as to what nations will do well in tournaments in the coming years
alot of investment in modern, high quality coaching by the big clubs and FA in recent years too
england were always gonna get close to the top in international football
posted on 5/7/21
Wasn't Foden meant to emulate Gazza in this tournament? Or has he just been drinking in secret? Is that what he meant?
posted on 5/7/21
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posted on 5/7/21
England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
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tbf it looks like the tears are all yours already
posted on 5/7/21
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 20 seconds ago
England will 100% bottle it.
I think in the final but it would not surprise me to see the Danes pap England out. All this good run is doing is increasing the tears.
Not like England have beaten a good team yet. Easiest route to a final in international football history. A past it Germany don't count.
That said if you win it the tears will be mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they've had 2 major tournaments on the bounce where the draw and route through has been v v kind to them
Yes, current Germany team is a shambles and has been for a number of years...they lost at home to Macedonia in a WC qualifier just a few months back ffs
England were never gonna get a better chance of KOing the Germans...let's be honest
posted on 5/7/21
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