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comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Discrimination*
Surprised by the Dutch, French and even Scotland, not always partaking.
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It’s complicated. The knee v England was in solidarity with the English players only in an effort to de-politicise the gesture link to BLM but also over concerns that the gesture is becoming diluted by over use. They are clear they are standing against racism but looking for material actions and not just gestures.
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comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
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The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
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posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
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The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
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Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
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That's a great clip.
I've read accounts recently by people of ethnic minorities who have felt ambivalent about Englishness and the England flag, because they have grown up hearing people associated with that flag telling them to 'go home' or hearing that they might be British but they aren't English, and how this England team and the culture around it makes them feel more English. As a white dude I can't speak for that experience or generalise about it, but it has been good to listen.
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posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
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The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
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Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
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Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
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posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
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Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
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Joie de vivre. Its a magnet for urbane English people.
Have a place in the SW of France to go to one day when I pack it all in. Until then I just visit often.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
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That's a great clip.
I've read accounts recently by people of ethnic minorities who have felt ambivalent about Englishness and the England flag, because they have grown up hearing people associated with that flag telling them to 'go home' or hearing that they might be British but they aren't English, and how this England team and the culture around it makes them feel more English. As a white dude I can't speak for that experience or generalise about it, but it has been good to listen.
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It’s true, that’s how many feel including my self but even my feelings have changed as I see the team become
more diverse.
You also can’t help but love the unity within this England squad as well.
This almost brought a tear to my eye.
https://twitter.com/afc_adam7/status/1403713564276400133?s=21
Patriotism these days is kept alive by sport. The World Cup or Euros come around and the public feel English; the Olympics comes around and the public feel British.
Outside of these events, who really gives it much thought? Should people be basing their identity on something they feel every couple of years, or on something more relevant all year round?
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posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
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posted 33 minutes ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
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posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
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Joie de vivre. Its a magnet for urbane English people.
Have a place in the SW of France to go to one day when I pack it all in. Until then I just visit often.
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There’s just something very relaxed about it. I genuinely love the place, and I’ve been all over the world too, so have plenty to compare.
The ugly side I was referring to earlier…
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posted on 10/7/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Discrimination*
Surprised by the Dutch, French and even Scotland, not always partaking.
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It’s complicated. The knee v England was in solidarity with the English players only in an effort to de-politicise the gesture link to BLM but also over concerns that the gesture is becoming diluted by over use. They are clear they are standing against racism but looking for material actions and not just gestures.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
posted on 10/7/21
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's a great clip.
I've read accounts recently by people of ethnic minorities who have felt ambivalent about Englishness and the England flag, because they have grown up hearing people associated with that flag telling them to 'go home' or hearing that they might be British but they aren't English, and how this England team and the culture around it makes them feel more English. As a white dude I can't speak for that experience or generalise about it, but it has been good to listen.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
posted on 10/7/21
Lovely video.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
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Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke-Penited (U19119)
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
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The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
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Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
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Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
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Joie de vivre. Its a magnet for urbane English people.
Have a place in the SW of France to go to one day when I pack it all in. Until then I just visit often.
posted on 10/7/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
A lot of people who were born and raised on this island, grew up being told that they're not English and that they should go back to where they came from.
A lot to repair psychologically but as this nation becomes more diverse, there seems to be less division.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/HannahAlOthman/status/1413047627072131074?s=20
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That's a great clip.
I've read accounts recently by people of ethnic minorities who have felt ambivalent about Englishness and the England flag, because they have grown up hearing people associated with that flag telling them to 'go home' or hearing that they might be British but they aren't English, and how this England team and the culture around it makes them feel more English. As a white dude I can't speak for that experience or generalise about it, but it has been good to listen.
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It’s true, that’s how many feel including my self but even my feelings have changed as I see the team become
more diverse.
You also can’t help but love the unity within this England squad as well.
This almost brought a tear to my eye.
https://twitter.com/afc_adam7/status/1403713564276400133?s=21
posted on 10/7/21
Patriotism these days is kept alive by sport. The World Cup or Euros come around and the public feel English; the Olympics comes around and the public feel British.
Outside of these events, who really gives it much thought? Should people be basing their identity on something they feel every couple of years, or on something more relevant all year round?
posted on 10/7/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke-Penited (U19119)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diavolo Rosso 77 (U2462)
posted 28 minutes ago
MU52 I don't mean this in a bad way but how would you think you moving to France differs to the Pakistani family moving into your community.
It's an interesting subject for me as I don't really care where people are from as long as they respect the local culture and are decent people. Like I'm certain you are from your posts on here.
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It's different in as much as I speak French, had already worked over here, and we have a lot in common, football for a starter. Also my other half is French.
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I thought that was the case MU52.
I was just confused when you wrote 'Further more despite living in France for over eleven years, I shout for England, never France, and feel English with no part of me French.' because that didn't sound much like what you've previously described before of your wonderful life there.
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How does what he says go against him having a wonderful life?
If we go live on Mars, we would still be Earthlings, right, with no part of us Martian and never cheering for the Martian Spaceball team?
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The way I read it (perhaps erroneously) is that of the typical Brit abroad who thinks everyone will speak English with them and they don't have to learn the local lingo. It was at odds with the impression I've always had of MU52 of being a cosmopolitan kind of guy. I was delighted that he set me straight soon after.
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Typical French people who live in the type of French villages that Brits buy properties in speak as much English (either because they won't or can't) as the Brits speak French (almost certainly because they can't). This in my experience sometimes leads to French and British neighbours having fruitful relationships despite both parties communicating to each other in a strange comedy language straight out of Allo Allo.... coupled with a series of descriptive hand gestures accompanied by whistles like the Clangers make. But it seems to work.
When you ask the French locals what they think about Brits buying up empty properties in the Regions they all all for it, as they know many of their villages would die if we didn't as the younger French certainly don't want to live there and can't wait to move away. As our French neighbour tells us they welcome the Brits but will draw the line at Parisians.
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That's good to read. If there's a surplus of properties and the young French don't want to buy then incomers are certainly a boon. The way MU52 talks about where he lives certainly makes me feel envious at times!
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Rural parts of France are some of my favourite places to visit. Love the pace of life, the weather. So I’m also a tad envious of 52.
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Joie de vivre. Its a magnet for urbane English people.
Have a place in the SW of France to go to one day when I pack it all in. Until then I just visit often.
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There’s just something very relaxed about it. I genuinely love the place, and I’ve been all over the world too, so have plenty to compare.
posted on 10/7/21
The ugly side I was referring to earlier…
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd4kjvV7/
Continued
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd4kJDgH/
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