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posted on 12/7/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 8 minutes ago
Bottling is when you are favourite and lose. Not sure Spurs have been favourites in a final in the last 20 years.

How can an underdog bottle it?
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Spurs are 1 million percent bottlers as a football club. Literally can’t believe you don’t see this.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 10 minutes ago
So many similarities, Jorginho should have been red carded, and Bonucci a second yellow for leaving the field of play to celebrate, unfortunately the officials bottled it.
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And how did Chiellini stay on the field after dragging Saka to the floor by his neck just before halftime. And right in front of the linesman. Surely a straight red ??

Football is full of if buts and maybe's, except two things - England and Spurs never get over the line in big games.
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Chiellin's wasn't a red card offence...he got the right punishment...Jorginho however...shocker

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 minutes ago
Bottling is when you are favourite and lose. Not sure Spurs have been favourites in a final in the last 20 years.

How can an underdog
bottle it?
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Nope, bottling is when a football team consistently fail when it truly matters - hence why the England/ Spurs comparison. Both ultimate bottlers.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 minutes ago
Bottling is when you are favourite and lose. Not sure Spurs have been favourites in a final in the last 20 years.

How can an underdog
bottle it?
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Nope, bottling is when a football team consistently fail when it truly matters - hence why the England/ Spurs comparison. Both ultimate bottlers.
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Yep...it's when you think you are a big side & should win...& then don't

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 minutes ago
Bottling is when you are favourite and lose. Not sure Spurs have been favourites in a final in the last 20 years.

How can an underdog
bottle it?
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Nope, bottling is when a football team consistently fail when it truly matters - hence why the England/ Spurs comparison. Both ultimate bottlers.
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Yep...it's when you think you are a big side & should win...& then don't
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Exactly...you think you are a big side....the fans and the country confused about their level of competence. Now this is more accurate. Perhaps Spurs and England fans have delusions of grandeur.

posted on 12/7/21

Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.

posted on 12/7/21

To be fair....we were way overdue a big final, & are still way overdue a big win, - we had every right to think we could win it, given how well we played at times

But Italy were the same

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 8 seconds ago
Look Don, I get it. you're on a massive downer with Spurs and last night's disappointing result felt like salt in the wounds (even though it was England).

If England had once again failed to win the opening game of a tournament, you could say they bottled it.

If England failed to beat Germany once again in the knockout stages of a tournament, you could say they bottled it.

If, at the umpteenth time of asking, England again failed to win a semi final, you could say they bottled it.

But to lose the final on the lottery of penalties and then to be called bottlers is very unfair and unjustified imo. And remember, this is was England's first final in 55 years!


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When you are one nil up in final and end up losing the trophy you are bottlers. Pure and simple.
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That's such a ridiculous statement it's untrue!

Yes, if a team is 2-0 or 3-0 up and lose, you could say they bottled it if they go on to lose. But one nil? Do me a favour.
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One nil up and sat back inviting wave after wave of attack. Classic Jose at Spurs tactics. We bottled it. Deep down you know it.
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The tactics in the second half is a completely different matter. I totally agree that it was a massive mistake to sit back and invite Italy on. But I don't agree that you can tar this England team with the same brush that's used against Spurs.

This England team is light years ahead of where we are at the moment.

A better comparison would be with Man City's inability to win the Champions League. Again, major tactical errors were made in the final by the manager, rather then it being simply the players "bottling" it.
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The manager and players are all in together. Collectively they bottled it after going one nil up. We have bottled many games in the same fashion.

You can be defensive of Spurs all you like but take your Spurs glasses off and you will come to the same conclusion that Spurs and England are cut from the same cloth.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.

posted on 12/7/21

"A better comparison would be with Man City's inability to win the Champions League. Again, major tactical errors were made in the final by the manager, rather then it being simply the players "bottling" it."


this is fair...to be fair

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 6 minutes ago
"A better comparison would be with Man City's inability to win the Champions League. Again, major tactical errors were made in the final by the manager, rather then it being simply the players "bottling" it."


this is fair...to be fair
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Yup

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.
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In football, winning trophies is all that matters.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.
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In football, winning trophies is all that matters.
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Agreed Luka

posted on 12/7/21

If we got relegated and won the championship this could be a trophy.

Sadly the oil money has distorted lots in football. I'm still excited about seeing the kids like Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Devine, Nile John breakthrough to represent the club.

I want to win but first lets get the club right. We built an amazing academy and we don't use the talent well.

I hope this changes under Nuno.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 11 minutes ago
If we got relegated and won the championship this could be a trophy.

Sadly the oil money has distorted lots in football. I'm still excited about seeing the kids like Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Devine, Nile John breakthrough to represent the club.

I want to win but first lets get the club right. We built an amazing academy and we don't use the talent well.

I hope this changes under Nuno.
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Been hearing that for the last 10 years mate. Still nothing changes at Spurs. Still we underachieve and win f** all. Still we don’t spend enough on quality in the transfer market. Skipp isn’t going to change that mate.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 33 seconds ago
out of interest where was great england saviour and superman jack grealish when the penalty roll call was happening. wilted like a precious little flower
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He asked to take one and Southgate went with those 5 instead.
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https://twitter.com/JackGrealish/status/1414522271859888132?s=19

Chronic has had a mare here
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not as big a mare as southgate

posted on 12/7/21

Regarding Skipp. Saw him play a few times for Norwich and in the U21's for England. He is a steady player but not better the likes of Curtis Jones of Liverpool or Billy Gilmour. Did really well at Norwich but will still need a few more years to develop. At least he is or will become stronger than Winks which is a good sign.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.
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In football, winning trophies is all that matters.
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That’s the opening line of the Glory Hunters manifesto
Utter bollllocks If that was the case nobody would ever support the so-called lesser clubs and everyone would support city Chelsea and United

posted on 12/7/21

comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.
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In football, winning trophies is all that matters.
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That’s the opening line of the Glory Hunters manifesto
Utter bollllocks If that was the case nobody would ever support the so-called lesser clubs and everyone would support city Chelsea and United
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Not really. Every team plays to win. No team just turns up to lose week in week out at a professional level.

Winning can come at different levels but winning trophies is every fans dream. Show me an England fan who doesn't dream about winning the WC again or have another crack at winning the Euros.

Show me a Spurs fans who does want to win the league or an FA Cup in their lifetime. They are lying if they say different. Winning trophies is always the end game.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bottling for me is when we lose in knockouts competitions to lesser teams. When we are the favourite and still contrive to lose the match. We do this in the league but losing to a a favourite in a final isn't Bottling for me.
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In a two horse race anything is possible. Leicester were expected to lose to Chelsea in the FA cup but they didn't.
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I think this is no different to us beating Chelsea in the league cup. We had no right on paper to win that but we did. We beat Man City over 2 legs to make champs league final..was that Spurs? Or maybe that match didn't matter its only the final that counts. Even then we weren't favourites.
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In football, winning trophies is all that matters.
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That’s the opening line of the Glory Hunters manifesto
Utter bollllocks If that was the case nobody would ever support the so-called lesser clubs and everyone would support city Chelsea and United
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Not really. Every team plays to win. No team just turns up to lose week in week out at a professional level.

Winning can come at different levels but winning trophies is every fans dream. Show me an England fan who doesn't dream about winning the WC again or have another crack at winning the Euros.

Show me a Spurs fans who does want to win the league or an FA Cup in their lifetime. They are lying if they say different. Winning trophies is always the end game.

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Totally agree Luka and it depends what context too. Spurs are among the top 10 richest clubs in world football and in recent years, are by the least successful and that includes the mess that is arsenal. A f** awful Arsenal team still have 2 Fa cups to their name. At the end of day, we as a club are massive underachievers as are England. Anyone claiming trophies ain’t all that for a club of our size are talking out their a** hole

posted on 12/7/21

Exactly Don, trying to make out there is glory in finishing 4th and qualifying the CL. Funk that. We need a trophy. Harry Kane needs a funking trophy.

posted on 12/7/21

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 41 seconds ago
Exactly Don, trying to make out there is glory in finishing 4th and qualifying the CL. Funk that. We need a trophy. Harry Kane needs a funking trophy.
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Hence why he wants out Luka

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