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England fans are an embarrassment

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posted on 13/7/21

So you PULLED IT OUT OF YOUR ASS - that's what I suspected...

posted on 13/7/21

comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
So you PULLED IT OUT OF YOUR ASS - that's what I suspected...
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No, I took it from the numerous news reports all over the feckin telly all day. You not been watching or are you just that thick that you actually think that all the bad element in the whole of English football was present on screen in what happened yesterday and there's no hooligans anywhere else

Give it a rest with the blatant denile now please. Just the fact you didn't dare cite your own number, shows you already thought about it and know at least a couple hundred thousand is a MINIMUM correct and you'll look a complete ass if you claim it's less. So instead you harp about the IRRELEVANT point that my figure wasn't one cited by an officially thug head counting source.

Deny then distract, straight out the Trump playbook that one

posted on 13/7/21

comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
So you PULLED IT OUT OF YOUR ASS - that's what I suspected...
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I have to assume he is trolling as even with his narrative, assuming hundreds of thousands/millions based on a Wembley sample is beyond stupid. Problem one of the dumbest statement I've ever read and yeah....sandy and wahl post on here 😅

So if we look at any left wing/right wing rally and use that as a sample.... lol wtf is the guy on.

Best bit is when u ask for evidence or say they are talking trash they just call you racist/trump supporter 😅
Racism is something a tiny % stand behind and most oppose.

Blm is a def problem and doesn't mean if u oppose it you're racist. Why wife does and she is black ffs! The women who set up BLM left recently as she bought like a few houses with funds.

BLM wants division not inclusion. I know lots of black people that oppose BLM being some flagship anti racist movement because it is anything but.

posted on 14/7/21

My Trump reference was about how you are pretending something blatantly true, isn't and using tactics of pedantic dispute and insults to distract from the fact your are denying/lying about the reality of English football culture. That's what he does, anything negative about anything, he simply denies it, pretend otherwise and slates the source. It was NOTHING to do with BLM or calling you racist. Rather telling that you jumped to that conclusion, the defensiveness shows you get called "racist or a Trump supporter" a lot. Maybe try working on your delivery so you don't come across like one.

What's weirdest in this is the fact that you actually want to argue that among 30 million fans in the UK it's only less than 200k who are bad apples. It's just plain old STATISTICALLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY the number could be that low given English football culture. FGS I'm pretty sure you're old enough to remember English football hooliganism. And anybody who is shouldn't have any problem admitting to 200k out of 30 million (you saw alot more than that on TV every week in the eighties). You're trying to pretend that fans and football culture changed because everyone cleaned their own act up and football got rid of the thugs. That isn't what happened.

It has been/is in fact HEAVY MATCHDAY POLICE/STEWARD PRESENCE and ban threats which makes fans behave at matches, NOT a change in overall English football culture. They didn't suddenly all just decide to be good boys and girls by themselves, coppers and stewards MADE/MAKE THEM behave every week. Football culture never changed, it just started to behave because there were too many coppers around to get away with kickin off anymore. Wembley demonstrated the TRUE face of English football, instead of the one that get's hidden in PL behind small armies of coppers and stewards each week. English football thugs are still English football thugs and whether you want to admit it or not, there's still PLENTY of them. You simply need remove the heavy police presence from a venue and away the thugs go.

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