Successes
Bruno
Maguire
Cavani
Verge of success
AWB
Average
James
Poor
VDB
Telles
Unknown
Pellistri
Sancho
Amad
Bruno - yes
Cavani - yes
James - no
Telles - no
Maguire - yes and no
Wan Bissaka - yes and no
Ighalo - no
Pellistri - too early to tell
Amad - too early to tell
Van De Beek - no
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 12 seconds ago
Successes
Bruno
Maguire
Cavani
Verge of success
AWB
Average
James
Poor
VDB
Telles
Unknown
Pellistri
Sancho
Amad
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I guess the two are Fernandes and Maguire? And the third is Cavani?
I’d say Ole has signed a few players who are doing, or did, what they were brought in to do. Cavani definitely, Telles and even Ighalo fall into that category.
Wan-Bissaka and James are young. One’s been a decent first-team signing, but with areas for improvement, the other a decent squad player.
Amad and Pellistri are obviously for the future.
Only Donny has really been a failed signing. And he’s only had a year - anything could happen this season.
Telles is a success in some ways... He's good enough to be a squad player and offer the competition it seems Shaw needs to thrive on.
I wouldn't say any have been bad signings. DVB will be class this season and was quite good last year when used.
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
Telles is a success in some ways... He's good enough to be a squad player and offer the competition it seems Shaw needs to thrive on.
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totally agree, especially for the fee we paid, we hardly broke the bank on the guy
I don't think any are out and out 'failed', particularly given the context of how much they were bought for.
Ighalo did fine for what he was. Even if all he did was his holdup play which led to McTominay's screamer against City in the last game before lock down - love this goal for so many reasons - and his keepy uppy volley in the Europa. As a short term loan with no real expectation, he was fine.
Same for James, cheap signing brought in to see if he can develop into a first team player. Hasn't worked that way but he's been fine as a squad player, he was actually quite useful at the start, when we had no real cover there and he scored a few. He's been alright and will likely be sold at no loss or even a profit.
The rest have all generally been good/yet to be determined. Telles was bought as competition for left back and again, I think he's fine for that and I have no problem with him coming in and covering, wasn't expensive, as a back up he's sound.
AWB has been really decent, room to improve but overall a very gold right back. People will always moan. He's better defensively than he is offensively but even Trent got a lot of stick last season with one pool fan referring to him as a cancer. There aren't many that are significantly better, he's also only 23, he should really improve a fair bit kber the next 2-3 years.
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
I agree with most.
Bruno and Cavani for me are the 2 successes
Maguire has been OK so far, although I think long term he could be considered a success.
Telles, AWB, James. Decent so far. Nothing more, although I expect all could improve.
VDB, Amad, Pellestri, its too early to say.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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I think he's trying to do the opposite
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
Not to be that guy but players like Pogba, Fred, Shaw have looked like "new signings" with marked improvement by almost every player in the squad.
VDB is the only question mark and probably needs game time to see his full potential
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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I think he's trying to do the opposite
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How nice of him.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
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If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
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If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
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Yeah quote possibly, he does seem like a club signing though, he'd supposedly agreed personal terms with Madrid pre rona and they then pulled the plug and it was almost as though VDS had said "look, he's available, do you want?", the fee was reasonable and we'd tracked him, so we just pulled the trigger more than someone that had been identified as a player who fit the model we were recruiting into. Bruno takes his obvious place in the starting 11 and no way is he pushing him out, so it seems like a good signing but wrong time/team to me really.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
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If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
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Yeah quote possibly, he does seem like a club signing though, he'd supposedly agreed personal terms with Madrid pre rona and they then pulled the plug and it was almost as though VDS had said "look, he's available, do you want?", the fee was reasonable and we'd tracked him, so we just pulled the trigger more than someone that had been identified as a player who fit the model we were recruiting into. Bruno takes his obvious place in the starting 11 and no way is he pushing him out, so it seems like a good signing but wrong time/team to me really.
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Nonsense.
Ole has just struggled to accommodate him, Pogba and Bruno, with VDB wing the least senior, last in, cheapest signing.
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
Nonsense.
Ole has just struggled to accommodate him, Pogba and Bruno, with VDB wing the least senior, last in, cheapest signing.
If you're going to say 'nonsense', explain why. Your reply is just uninformed fluff. I just said "quite possibly", "seems like". The fact you're immediately so dismissive whilst then providing zero actual context is typical of your posting style.
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Not taking you on, you show time and time again you don't actually know what you're talking about and I've now seen several people reference that this isn't exactly a well kept secret. There's zero context or decent input from you and I've seen nothing to suggest your opinion or ability to analyse/predict should be taken seriously at all. Be as aggressive and dismissive as you want, stupid people typically are. I've disagreed with plenty of people on here but still had decent debate/discussion. Not the case with you at all.
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
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Neither did I really. There's a channel on YouTube called Atlantic football, breaks down and analyses tactics, players etc etc and whilst I don't always agree with him, he generally gives really good context to his arguments, backs it up with data and evidence etc. He's done at least two videos on Donny, one before he ever joined and one after and both give good explanations as to why he was quite a strange signing and explains his performances, styles etc and why he isn't the player a lot of United fans seem to think he is. Good food for thought at least.
Everything I've seen from him has kind of matched not only the post signing analysis but the pre as well.
It’s nonsense to suggest he was an impulse buy by he club.
Oh look,it's the daily Ole out article.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
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Neither did I really. There's a channel on YouTube called Atlantic football, breaks down and analyses tactics, players etc etc and whilst I don't always agree with him, he generally gives really good context to his arguments, backs it up with data and evidence etc. He's done at least two videos on Donny, one before he ever joined and one after and both give good explanations as to why he was quite a strange signing and explains his performances, styles etc and why he isn't the player a lot of United fans seem to think he is. Good food for thought at least.
Everything I've seen from him has kind of matched not only the post signing analysis but the pre as well.
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Just watched the “pre” one
Romano has spoken.
Varane deal is almost done.
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posted on 26/7/21
Successes
Bruno
Maguire
Cavani
Verge of success
AWB
Average
James
Poor
VDB
Telles
Unknown
Pellistri
Sancho
Amad
posted on 26/7/21
Bruno - yes
Cavani - yes
James - no
Telles - no
Maguire - yes and no
Wan Bissaka - yes and no
Ighalo - no
Pellistri - too early to tell
Amad - too early to tell
Van De Beek - no
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 12 seconds ago
Successes
Bruno
Maguire
Cavani
Verge of success
AWB
Average
James
Poor
VDB
Telles
Unknown
Pellistri
Sancho
Amad
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👍
posted on 26/7/21
I guess the two are Fernandes and Maguire? And the third is Cavani?
I’d say Ole has signed a few players who are doing, or did, what they were brought in to do. Cavani definitely, Telles and even Ighalo fall into that category.
Wan-Bissaka and James are young. One’s been a decent first-team signing, but with areas for improvement, the other a decent squad player.
Amad and Pellistri are obviously for the future.
Only Donny has really been a failed signing. And he’s only had a year - anything could happen this season.
posted on 26/7/21
Telles is a success in some ways... He's good enough to be a squad player and offer the competition it seems Shaw needs to thrive on.
posted on 26/7/21
I wouldn't say any have been bad signings. DVB will be class this season and was quite good last year when used.
posted on 26/7/21
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
Telles is a success in some ways... He's good enough to be a squad player and offer the competition it seems Shaw needs to thrive on.
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totally agree, especially for the fee we paid, we hardly broke the bank on the guy
posted on 26/7/21
I don't think any are out and out 'failed', particularly given the context of how much they were bought for.
Ighalo did fine for what he was. Even if all he did was his holdup play which led to McTominay's screamer against City in the last game before lock down - love this goal for so many reasons - and his keepy uppy volley in the Europa. As a short term loan with no real expectation, he was fine.
Same for James, cheap signing brought in to see if he can develop into a first team player. Hasn't worked that way but he's been fine as a squad player, he was actually quite useful at the start, when we had no real cover there and he scored a few. He's been alright and will likely be sold at no loss or even a profit.
The rest have all generally been good/yet to be determined. Telles was bought as competition for left back and again, I think he's fine for that and I have no problem with him coming in and covering, wasn't expensive, as a back up he's sound.
AWB has been really decent, room to improve but overall a very gold right back. People will always moan. He's better defensively than he is offensively but even Trent got a lot of stick last season with one pool fan referring to him as a cancer. There aren't many that are significantly better, he's also only 23, he should really improve a fair bit kber the next 2-3 years.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
posted on 26/7/21
I agree with most.
Bruno and Cavani for me are the 2 successes
Maguire has been OK so far, although I think long term he could be considered a success.
Telles, AWB, James. Decent so far. Nothing more, although I expect all could improve.
VDB, Amad, Pellestri, its too early to say.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
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I think he's trying to do the opposite
posted on 26/7/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
posted on 26/7/21
Not to be that guy but players like Pogba, Fred, Shaw have looked like "new signings" with marked improvement by almost every player in the squad.
VDB is the only question mark and probably needs game time to see his full potential
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
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Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think he's trying to do the opposite
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How nice of him.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
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If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah quote possibly, he does seem like a club signing though, he'd supposedly agreed personal terms with Madrid pre rona and they then pulled the plug and it was almost as though VDS had said "look, he's available, do you want?", the fee was reasonable and we'd tracked him, so we just pulled the trigger more than someone that had been identified as a player who fit the model we were recruiting into. Bruno takes his obvious place in the starting 11 and no way is he pushing him out, so it seems like a good signing but wrong time/team to me really.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Jadon & Marcus & Bukayo. (U1270)
posted 34 minutes ago
Looks like the normal mixed bag of good, bad and indifferent signings that every club makes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Including us before Ole. But some on here will exaggerate like we never made any good signings before and Ole has changed that. That's what the OP is probably getting at.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's also a difference between a bad signing and a gold signing that just didn't work out.
I put Di Maria, for example, into the Veron category as opposed to the Kleberson one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If we don't find a role for Beek soon, he'll also end up in that category.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah quote possibly, he does seem like a club signing though, he'd supposedly agreed personal terms with Madrid pre rona and they then pulled the plug and it was almost as though VDS had said "look, he's available, do you want?", the fee was reasonable and we'd tracked him, so we just pulled the trigger more than someone that had been identified as a player who fit the model we were recruiting into. Bruno takes his obvious place in the starting 11 and no way is he pushing him out, so it seems like a good signing but wrong time/team to me really.
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Nonsense.
Ole has just struggled to accommodate him, Pogba and Bruno, with VDB wing the least senior, last in, cheapest signing.
posted on 26/7/21
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
posted on 26/7/21
Nonsense.
Ole has just struggled to accommodate him, Pogba and Bruno, with VDB wing the least senior, last in, cheapest signing.
If you're going to say 'nonsense', explain why. Your reply is just uninformed fluff. I just said "quite possibly", "seems like". The fact you're immediately so dismissive whilst then providing zero actual context is typical of your posting style.
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Not taking you on, you show time and time again you don't actually know what you're talking about and I've now seen several people reference that this isn't exactly a well kept secret. There's zero context or decent input from you and I've seen nothing to suggest your opinion or ability to analyse/predict should be taken seriously at all. Be as aggressive and dismissive as you want, stupid people typically are. I've disagreed with plenty of people on here but still had decent debate/discussion. Not the case with you at all.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
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Neither did I really. There's a channel on YouTube called Atlantic football, breaks down and analyses tactics, players etc etc and whilst I don't always agree with him, he generally gives really good context to his arguments, backs it up with data and evidence etc. He's done at least two videos on Donny, one before he ever joined and one after and both give good explanations as to why he was quite a strange signing and explains his performances, styles etc and why he isn't the player a lot of United fans seem to think he is. Good food for thought at least.
Everything I've seen from him has kind of matched not only the post signing analysis but the pre as well.
posted on 26/7/21
It’s nonsense to suggest he was an impulse buy by he club.
posted on 26/7/21
Oh look,it's the daily Ole out article.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Van de Beek signing was a strange one at the time. I thought it might be to take some of the heat off Bruno, though I’m still not sure exactly what kind of midfielder Donny is. But my point even back then was that there were areas in the first XI that needed addressing before we signed such a player. Still, I think/hope there is a role for him and we see a lot of him this season.
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Neither did I really. There's a channel on YouTube called Atlantic football, breaks down and analyses tactics, players etc etc and whilst I don't always agree with him, he generally gives really good context to his arguments, backs it up with data and evidence etc. He's done at least two videos on Donny, one before he ever joined and one after and both give good explanations as to why he was quite a strange signing and explains his performances, styles etc and why he isn't the player a lot of United fans seem to think he is. Good food for thought at least.
Everything I've seen from him has kind of matched not only the post signing analysis but the pre as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just watched the “pre” one
posted on 26/7/21
Romano has spoken.
Varane deal is almost done.
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