Aye well, you get what you pay for, with Rodgers we had a Rolls Royce, just a pity the board didn't pay for a quality service contract.
Barkas was 5 mil and Ajeti was around the same, why not just pay a good manager and his backroom team six mil a year?
SG is the big name that attracts players, but I reckon it's Gary McAllister that's the real reason Rangers are doing so well tactically, and you never really hear from they guy, keeps hos head down and just gets on with it.
We replaced Duff and Mjallby with two woodentops and Rodgers with.. well..
I'm a bit jealous of the setup at Rangers as they seem to be doing everything right at the moment, but I'll say it again, there's no chance of them repeating the heights of last season.
Celtic right now are just as bad as I can remember, but the blame rests entirely with our disfunctional 'board' and recruitment process, farcical. Somecvnt has micromanged us into this situation.
Smug
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Also wondering how many boardroom hours went into deciding the matching gold silk handkerchiefs versus signing players?
Board got it right with Rodgers and he ran the football side and he done it well, so you see the difference when you replace a man dedicated to football with a fat slob and that is just typical of celtic tbh.
Neil Lennon as manager personifies the way celtic do business, can't be bothered doing is his job so leaves it up to others to make do for him.
Time for a change.
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 6 minutes ago
remember when fergus mccann mixed it up bit, brought in jock brown, changed the backroom
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Jock Brown nearly killed off our title in 97/98, he was trying to pick the team and tell Wim and Murdo what to do. That interference is what caused Wim to fvck off right away.
comment by Zico 💚 (U21900)
posted 2 minutes ago
SG is the big name that attracts players, but I reckon it's Gary McAllister that's the real reason Rangers are doing so well tactically, and you never really hear from they guy, keeps hos head down and just gets on with it.
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Beale and Culshaw are the reason we are doing so well. Beale in particular. He could be a manager of any side IMHO.
I'm not being flippant with this but see when people talk about "the board" who do they mean specifically?
It was always Lawell but he has gone now so has nothing to do with the current shambles in terms of what Ange is talking about, even if his legacy hasn't helped.
The natural scapegoat then would be his replacement McKay but surely the justification for Ange needing time and being just in the door applies to him too? So is it Bankier, is it Desmond or just the collective approach? If Desmond what do you really do about that are you proposing a takeover and that he goes or just that he takes a more active role?
I've said it before but i work on projects for my company, and i've worked with people who want to get a job done and people who want a wage.
The people who want a wage will get an email on a monday, sit on it till friday and send it last thing, but not with anything done, with another question so they don't have to do anything.
they will get a reply on monday and then wait till friday to repeat.
That's us with transfers, 100% that is us.
People are not doing their job.
It’s early days but it’s already Looking like big Flange is well out of his depth, he’d be more at home in the AFL. This is a guy who thinks you get points in a two legged knockout ffs
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm not being flippant with this but see when people talk about "the board" who do they mean specifically?
It was always Lawell but he has gone now so has nothing to do with the current shambles in terms of what Ange is talking about, even if his legacy hasn't helped.
The natural scapegoat then would be his replacement McKay but surely the justification for Ange needing time and being just in the door applies to him too? So is it Bankier, is it Desmond or just the collective approach? If Desmond what do you really do about that are you proposing a takeover and that he goes or just that he takes a more active role?
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Lawell has not gone. He is not CEO but he is still on the board. The board are supposed to be leaders and running the club, well not one of them have actually stepped up and done so. If there are some good ones who are being drowned out then they need replaced with someone stronger.
I think Dom McKay should be given time. he brings a different slant to running a team. Is he the right person? Most say no but I am not sure. A CEO should not be running the football team, they should be managing the club ensuring the right people in the right role whilst also working on our marketing, revenue and stability. He is very experienced in that much like Lawell was a good CFO when he became CEO.
I want the board replaced. Time for a shake up but not at the expense of bringing in just anyone. Rangers spent years doing that and it didn't work out well...
well here is what we don't know smid, is mkay trying or is his hands tied from above?
Chris McKay? Bankier? Desmond?
or have they simply hired a guy who won't will just follow the same rhetoric that Lawwell did?
We can blame Dom McKay for not acting quickly, but truth is we should have had someone in way before we did, to get moving.
Surely they gave him a list of expectations about reforming the football club, but i highly doubt it so he'll just be plodding along, doing his thing.
If you have people who understand football in these positions they would say to him, we need a new DOF so make that happen, then a head of recruitment, while you're doing that DOF picks manager, manager picks backroom staff.
but they didn't.
they kept the same staff on and replaced the manager, thats their idea or a rebuild.
cheap.
A CEO should bring in a DOF to run the footballing side and a manager to run the team.
They couldn't even do that
Bankier, Wilson and Desmond are the main culprits.
That kant Wilson, I’d love to hear him being smacked on the jaw. A more rancid b@stard you’re unlikely to meet.
Ah ok sorry I didn't realise Lawell was still on the board, I thought he finished up. Ultimately I agree with the points, I just wasn't sure where on the board the issue was. I always thought Lawell called all the shots but it's been interesting that since he left (or I thought he left) the same behaviours continued so I was just curious as to where this sat.
Ultimately though I think Celtic missed an opportunity by not going with a DoF. 20 years ago it was a bit hipster but now it's just the way the game has gone and makes sense. Not sure if you just couldn't get who you wanted or decided against it but don't think the current model helps.
If it helps btw, and only passing this on from a source I'd trust, I've heard McKay hasn't been all that happy himself with the transition.
General view was he was wondering why Celtic had made so much effort to start him earlier since he wasn't doing anything and all the key decisions were still being made by others. This was about a month ago so may have changed, but maybe he feels the same frustration.
If we hire a DOF it takes a lot of footballing power away from the parasites Smid.
That’s the issue here, it’s also why the lapdog Kennedy is still there.
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Tonto Polanski The 3rd (U22667)
posted 24 minutes ago
It’s early days but it’s already Looking like big Flange is well out of his depth, he’d be more at home in the AFL. This is a guy who thinks you get points in a two legged knockout ffs
button it.
If Samaras put in the effort Edouard did last night he’d have been chased out by the Calton Tongs
Yeah that's true and could well be the reason. Just seems like there was an opportunity to totally reset things last season and yet all that's changed is the name of the Manager.
It's madness to me that Celtic could have the season they had last year and in May we were talking about all the issues yet they start the new season and CL qualifiers still interchanging Barkas and Bain on the basis of who is least risky.
they hire too close to home, said it last season, it wasn't just their pal lennon that had to go, it was their adopted son and their pals son as well.
Their idea of a rebuild really shows how awful they are at running a club, they have cost us money in champions league revenue imo.
maybe not four years worth but i think 2 for sure.
comment by Zachsda( Thumb’s a fat six goals a season waster) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd think French Eddy will be moving hoose relatively soon.He looked like the fat bastirt at school when ye got football and he just stood there and let the ball hit him
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One of my best pals has always been a fat git, but what a footballer btw.
Definition of a poacher but he's silky as fvck on the ball and has a peach of a shot on him.
Just can't run
Ego is the reason things fail, these boys with the massive egos, they bask in the success and disappear and take no blame or responsibility when it goes wrong.
Lawwell's penny pinching, thinking he was gallas and 'I'll drive the price lower' nonsense is why we are where we are. Imagine he done it right with Boyata, McGinn and Castegane et al.. I would say we would be in a much healthier place right now.
It's just a mess and I can't see any positives, AH JUST WANT MA RODGERS BACK AND A BAG EH CANS!
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
they hire too close to home, said it last season, it wasn't just their pal lennon that had to go, it was their adopted son and their pals son as well.
Their idea of a rebuild really shows how awful they are at running a club, they have cost us money in champions league revenue imo.
maybe not four years worth but i think 2 for sure.
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They don't want to relinquish any more control than they already have.. hence why they keep their stooges in crucial roles.
comment by Zico 💚 (U21900)
posted 38 minutes ago
Aye well, you get what you pay for, with Rodgers we had a Rolls Royce, just a pity the board didn't pay for a quality service contract.
Barkas was 5 mil and Ajeti was around the same
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I am not sure these two players back up the 'you get what you pay for' argument.....
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posted on 29/7/21
Aye well, you get what you pay for, with Rodgers we had a Rolls Royce, just a pity the board didn't pay for a quality service contract.
Barkas was 5 mil and Ajeti was around the same, why not just pay a good manager and his backroom team six mil a year?
SG is the big name that attracts players, but I reckon it's Gary McAllister that's the real reason Rangers are doing so well tactically, and you never really hear from they guy, keeps hos head down and just gets on with it.
We replaced Duff and Mjallby with two woodentops and Rodgers with.. well..
I'm a bit jealous of the setup at Rangers as they seem to be doing everything right at the moment, but I'll say it again, there's no chance of them repeating the heights of last season.
Celtic right now are just as bad as I can remember, but the blame rests entirely with our disfunctional 'board' and recruitment process, farcical. Somecvnt has micromanged us into this situation.
posted on 29/7/21
Smug
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/NINTCHDBPICT000669067165.jpg?w=660
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Also wondering how many boardroom hours went into deciding the matching gold silk handkerchiefs versus signing players?
posted on 29/7/21
Board got it right with Rodgers and he ran the football side and he done it well, so you see the difference when you replace a man dedicated to football with a fat slob and that is just typical of celtic tbh.
Neil Lennon as manager personifies the way celtic do business, can't be bothered doing is his job so leaves it up to others to make do for him.
Time for a change.
posted on 29/7/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 6 minutes ago
remember when fergus mccann mixed it up bit, brought in jock brown, changed the backroom
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Jock Brown nearly killed off our title in 97/98, he was trying to pick the team and tell Wim and Murdo what to do. That interference is what caused Wim to fvck off right away.
posted on 29/7/21
comment by Zico 💚 (U21900)
posted 2 minutes ago
SG is the big name that attracts players, but I reckon it's Gary McAllister that's the real reason Rangers are doing so well tactically, and you never really hear from they guy, keeps hos head down and just gets on with it.
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Beale and Culshaw are the reason we are doing so well. Beale in particular. He could be a manager of any side IMHO.
posted on 29/7/21
I'm not being flippant with this but see when people talk about "the board" who do they mean specifically?
It was always Lawell but he has gone now so has nothing to do with the current shambles in terms of what Ange is talking about, even if his legacy hasn't helped.
The natural scapegoat then would be his replacement McKay but surely the justification for Ange needing time and being just in the door applies to him too? So is it Bankier, is it Desmond or just the collective approach? If Desmond what do you really do about that are you proposing a takeover and that he goes or just that he takes a more active role?
posted on 29/7/21
I've said it before but i work on projects for my company, and i've worked with people who want to get a job done and people who want a wage.
The people who want a wage will get an email on a monday, sit on it till friday and send it last thing, but not with anything done, with another question so they don't have to do anything.
they will get a reply on monday and then wait till friday to repeat.
That's us with transfers, 100% that is us.
People are not doing their job.
posted on 29/7/21
It’s early days but it’s already Looking like big Flange is well out of his depth, he’d be more at home in the AFL. This is a guy who thinks you get points in a two legged knockout ffs
posted on 29/7/21
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm not being flippant with this but see when people talk about "the board" who do they mean specifically?
It was always Lawell but he has gone now so has nothing to do with the current shambles in terms of what Ange is talking about, even if his legacy hasn't helped.
The natural scapegoat then would be his replacement McKay but surely the justification for Ange needing time and being just in the door applies to him too? So is it Bankier, is it Desmond or just the collective approach? If Desmond what do you really do about that are you proposing a takeover and that he goes or just that he takes a more active role?
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Lawell has not gone. He is not CEO but he is still on the board. The board are supposed to be leaders and running the club, well not one of them have actually stepped up and done so. If there are some good ones who are being drowned out then they need replaced with someone stronger.
I think Dom McKay should be given time. he brings a different slant to running a team. Is he the right person? Most say no but I am not sure. A CEO should not be running the football team, they should be managing the club ensuring the right people in the right role whilst also working on our marketing, revenue and stability. He is very experienced in that much like Lawell was a good CFO when he became CEO.
I want the board replaced. Time for a shake up but not at the expense of bringing in just anyone. Rangers spent years doing that and it didn't work out well...
posted on 29/7/21
well here is what we don't know smid, is mkay trying or is his hands tied from above?
Chris McKay? Bankier? Desmond?
or have they simply hired a guy who won't will just follow the same rhetoric that Lawwell did?
We can blame Dom McKay for not acting quickly, but truth is we should have had someone in way before we did, to get moving.
Surely they gave him a list of expectations about reforming the football club, but i highly doubt it so he'll just be plodding along, doing his thing.
If you have people who understand football in these positions they would say to him, we need a new DOF so make that happen, then a head of recruitment, while you're doing that DOF picks manager, manager picks backroom staff.
but they didn't.
they kept the same staff on and replaced the manager, thats their idea or a rebuild.
cheap.
posted on 29/7/21
A CEO should bring in a DOF to run the footballing side and a manager to run the team.
They couldn't even do that
posted on 29/7/21
Bankier, Wilson and Desmond are the main culprits.
That kant Wilson, I’d love to hear him being smacked on the jaw. A more rancid b@stard you’re unlikely to meet.
posted on 29/7/21
Ah ok sorry I didn't realise Lawell was still on the board, I thought he finished up. Ultimately I agree with the points, I just wasn't sure where on the board the issue was. I always thought Lawell called all the shots but it's been interesting that since he left (or I thought he left) the same behaviours continued so I was just curious as to where this sat.
Ultimately though I think Celtic missed an opportunity by not going with a DoF. 20 years ago it was a bit hipster but now it's just the way the game has gone and makes sense. Not sure if you just couldn't get who you wanted or decided against it but don't think the current model helps.
posted on 29/7/21
If it helps btw, and only passing this on from a source I'd trust, I've heard McKay hasn't been all that happy himself with the transition.
General view was he was wondering why Celtic had made so much effort to start him earlier since he wasn't doing anything and all the key decisions were still being made by others. This was about a month ago so may have changed, but maybe he feels the same frustration.
posted on 29/7/21
If we hire a DOF it takes a lot of footballing power away from the parasites Smid.
That’s the issue here, it’s also why the lapdog Kennedy is still there.
posted on 29/7/21
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posted on 29/7/21
Tonto Polanski The 3rd (U22667)
posted 24 minutes ago
It’s early days but it’s already Looking like big Flange is well out of his depth, he’d be more at home in the AFL. This is a guy who thinks you get points in a two legged knockout ffs
button it.
posted on 29/7/21
If Samaras put in the effort Edouard did last night he’d have been chased out by the Calton Tongs
posted on 29/7/21
Yeah that's true and could well be the reason. Just seems like there was an opportunity to totally reset things last season and yet all that's changed is the name of the Manager.
It's madness to me that Celtic could have the season they had last year and in May we were talking about all the issues yet they start the new season and CL qualifiers still interchanging Barkas and Bain on the basis of who is least risky.
posted on 29/7/21
they hire too close to home, said it last season, it wasn't just their pal lennon that had to go, it was their adopted son and their pals son as well.
Their idea of a rebuild really shows how awful they are at running a club, they have cost us money in champions league revenue imo.
maybe not four years worth but i think 2 for sure.
posted on 29/7/21
comment by Zachsda( Thumb’s a fat six goals a season waster) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd think French Eddy will be moving hoose relatively soon.He looked like the fat bastirt at school when ye got football and he just stood there and let the ball hit him
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One of my best pals has always been a fat git, but what a footballer btw.
Definition of a poacher but he's silky as fvck on the ball and has a peach of a shot on him.
Just can't run
posted on 29/7/21
Ego is the reason things fail, these boys with the massive egos, they bask in the success and disappear and take no blame or responsibility when it goes wrong.
Lawwell's penny pinching, thinking he was gallas and 'I'll drive the price lower' nonsense is why we are where we are. Imagine he done it right with Boyata, McGinn and Castegane et al.. I would say we would be in a much healthier place right now.
It's just a mess and I can't see any positives, AH JUST WANT MA RODGERS BACK AND A BAG EH CANS!
posted on 29/7/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
they hire too close to home, said it last season, it wasn't just their pal lennon that had to go, it was their adopted son and their pals son as well.
Their idea of a rebuild really shows how awful they are at running a club, they have cost us money in champions league revenue imo.
maybe not four years worth but i think 2 for sure.
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They don't want to relinquish any more control than they already have.. hence why they keep their stooges in crucial roles.
posted on 29/7/21
comment by Zico 💚 (U21900)
posted 38 minutes ago
Aye well, you get what you pay for, with Rodgers we had a Rolls Royce, just a pity the board didn't pay for a quality service contract.
Barkas was 5 mil and Ajeti was around the same
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I am not sure these two players back up the 'you get what you pay for' argument.....
posted on 29/7/21
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