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posted on 29/8/21

You need a ride ffs

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 29/8/21

That the VAR officials are from the Never Walk Alone Brigade ? Perish that thought!

posted on 29/8/21

Fack me, give over. You wait til tomorrow and watch Wolves flog a dead horse with Dean and Atwell officiating for United, we already know we are at least a goal down ffs.

posted on 29/8/21

It was a correct decision ffs and it comes from me as much as I hate Liverpool

posted on 29/8/21

Probably went something like this
Anthony Taylor: I'll need a VAR check for that incident
VAR ref: Ok checking
AT: I'll check the monitor too
VAR ref: Stone wall pen, it hit his leg prior to hand but there's a clear movement of the hand swiping the ball away
AT: Got it.
(Taylor looks at monitor as he's already there)

posted on 29/8/21

The biggest question should be why did he not spot the handball when it actually happened. He was terrible all game. Manc ref doing Manc things

posted on 29/8/21

The biggest question should be why did he not spot the handball when it actually happened. He was terrible all game. Manc ref doing Manc things
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Only way u were scoring yday was the penalty, be grateful he handed u that

posted on 29/8/21

comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 7 minutes ago
The biggest question should be why did he not spot the handball when it actually happened. He was terrible all game. Manc ref doing Manc things
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Only way u were scoring yday was the penalty, be grateful he handed u that
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yeah as up until then we had zero chances before or after.

posted on 29/8/21

Was as blatant a penalty as you'll see really. Dont know what people are so upset about

posted on 29/8/21

comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 10 minutes ago
The biggest question should be why did he not spot the handball when it actually happened. He was terrible all game. Manc ref doing Manc things
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Only way u were scoring yday was the penalty, be grateful he handed u that
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He didn't hand it. VAR made him.

posted on 29/8/21

I said at the time that the ref glancing at the screen is going to cause questions even though it was the right call.

Did feel sorry for James though as I don't think he necessarily meant to stop it a la Suarez. You could see from his face during the VAR check that he knew what was coming.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 29/8/21

It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.

posted on 29/8/21

yeah as up until then we had zero chances before or after.
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U had a half chance early and then nothing until the ref literally handed u a point and clear path to victory and you couldnt even do that, even your own manager said it was harsh

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 29/8/21

comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 29/8/21

comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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He didnt ruin your chances in the game though did he. He did his job. Reece james ruined your chances. He didnt need to handle it. He couldve let it go past him into the net, the games 1-1 and its 11 v 11 in the 2nd half.

I, along with others, appreciate it seems a harsh one on james but it is the rules so its certainly not the refs fault.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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what are u not understanding, he stopped the ball going in the net on the goal line with his arm.

Red card and penalty, standard and the rules.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 29/8/21

comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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what are u not understanding, he stopped the ball going in the net on the goal line with his arm.

Red card and penalty, standard and the rules.
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But that doesn't make it blatant.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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what are u not understanding, he stopped the ball going in the net on the goal line with his arm.

Red card and penalty, standard and the rules.
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But that doesn't make it blatant.
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posted on 29/8/21

I thought they removed double/tripple jeopardy?
You could punch a player and get a red card and suspension l, yet James got both AND a penalty. Harsh being penalised 3 times. Pen, ok, red card, ok, 3 game ban, no not at all fair.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 3 hours, 51 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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Afternoon JFDI, like you I've no complaints over the penalty but I thought the Red for James was harsh.

I'd already resigned myself to a bad referring performance like that when I found out he had the game midweek, his catalogue of bad decisions against us is long and goes back years.

If it were a clear deliberate handball a la Oxlade Chamberlain for Le Ar$e when the wrong player got sent off, then yes.

In my opinion it ceased to be a clear goal scoring opportunity when it came up of his leg and could have been going - well anywhere.

To compound it Taylor couldn't even be bothered to look at a full video of it, choosing instead to rely on a freeze frame shot.

How many opportunities did he have to book Liverpool players yesterday, yet Mendy gets a card for booting the ball away as Henderson closed him down.

Just a shocking referee or does he really hate Chelsea?

Great response from the lads though!

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 29/8/21

comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion (U22336)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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what are u not understanding, he stopped the ball going in the net on the goal line with his arm.

Red card and penalty, standard and the rules.
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But that doesn't make it blatant.
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Great response from the lads mate. I can understand the reaction of those Liverpool fans responding though.
They were convinced they could best us with home advantage and the crowd behind them. It must be sickening for them. The near silence when they conceded was noticeable, it was a wake up call for them.

posted on 29/8/21

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Happy Pranks 2021 FF JA LFC Champion(U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 minutes ago
It might have made the difference in cards. If the ball had not hot his leg it wouldn't of hit his arm. That could be the difference between hand ball and deliberate attempt to prevent a goal which is what he was sent off fir. It's done, I'm over it, it's one of those decisions that creates debate and one set of fans is going to be upset, pre VAR it would have been Liverpool fans.
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The ball hitting his leg then arm goes out the window once your stopping the ball go in the net.

He stopped Liverpool scoring a goal with his arm on the line, standard red card and penalty.

I don’t see why people are complaining.
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People will complain, pre var the original decision would have stood and Livrrppol fans would have complained. If the ref is simply following the letter of the law then he should gave booked Salah earlier in the game when he bootees the ball away. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with the performance of the ref. As a Chelsea fan I felt he wasn't consistent. I accept the decision he made though at the time I felt he'd ruined our chances to take anything from the game but as a Chelsea fan I'm actually very pleased with the fact we didn't concede after tge incident. I feel that has done us more good than harm.
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It’s a blatant red card, tbh I’m surprised the Manc gave it .
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A blatant red would be if a player did it deliberately, by the letter of the law the player had to be sent off because he prevented a goal. He clearly did not set out to handle the ball, the first action involved the raising of his leg.
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what are u not understanding, he stopped the ball going in the net on the goal line with his arm.

Red card and penalty, standard and the rules.
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But that doesn't make it blatant.
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Great response from the lads mate. I can understand the reaction of those Liverpool fans responding though.
They were convinced they could best us with home advantage and the crowd behind them. It must be sickening for them. The near silence when they conceded was noticeable, it was a wake up call for them.
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Well they do appeal more vociferously than the Australian cricket team mate!

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