I do think we'll see the 433, probably with McTominay just behind Pogba and Bruno.
I don't think Bruno has been accommodated to the detriment of the team. He's comfortable as an attacking midfielder/support striker and has the intelligence to make excellent runs. He's more of a Lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes, a really intelligent player.
Mike Phelan confirmed in pre season that they would be looking to implement a more attacking 433 but remain fluid in a few different formations. Draws cost us big time last season and I think we'll see him throw the kitchen sink more often.
I don't think we draw that game with Southampton with the team we'll have up and running in a couple of months, I really don't.
His output will most likely drop a bit but considering he has more goal contributions from signing up to the start of September than any other Prem player, it's not like it will hurt his numbers too badly. We have a lot fo players who will expect to be scoring and assisting, partly why I think Lukaku may out score Ronaldo, I think we'll get goals chipped in from all over the place rather than having a single point of attack.
It's fairly obvious Ole likes the 4231, I don't see that changing because we have signed Ronaldo.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 4 minutes ago
I do think we'll see the 433, probably with McTominay just behind Pogba and Bruno.
I don't think Bruno has been accommodated to the detriment of the team. He's comfortable as an attacking midfielder/support striker and has the intelligence to make excellent runs. He's more of a Lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes, a really intelligent player.
Mike Phelan confirmed in pre season that they would be looking to implement a more attacking 433 but remain fluid in a few different formations. Draws cost us big time last season and I think we'll see him throw the kitchen sink more often.
I don't think we draw that game with Southampton with the team we'll have up and running in a couple of months, I really don't.
His output will most likely drop a bit but considering he has more goal contributions from signing up to the start of September than any other Prem player, it's not like it will hurt his numbers too badly. We have a lot fo players who will expect to be scoring and assisting, partly why I think Lukaku may out score Ronaldo, I think we'll get goals chipped in from all over the place rather than having a single point of attack.
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I hope we will use more of the 4-3-3. My post wasn't being negative about Bruno it was just about setting up to get the best out of our best player.
Hopefully as the squad has improved we'll have even more game changers to call upon now which should hopefully lead to more goal contributions across the board.
I do believe we will have a change of style. Ronaldo and Bruno and maybe Rashford is going force the team to change its style. More crosses, More long balls, More direct style.
What may be tried but highly ill advised will be a 4-3-3. We have to be honest with ourselves. Our defence needs protection. 4-3-3 relies MASSIVELY on the 3 midfielders being all action, highly skilled, highly percentage passers. We literally do not have one midfielder good enough for a 4-3-3.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 5 seconds ago
I do believe we will have a change of style. Ronaldo and Bruno and maybe Rashford is going force the team to change its style. More crosses, More long balls, More direct style.
What may be tried but highly ill advised will be a 4-3-3. We have to be honest with ourselves. Our defence needs protection. 4-3-3 relies MASSIVELY on the 3 midfielders being all action, highly skilled, highly percentage passers. We literally do not have one midfielder good enough for a 4-3-3.
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Fair point although I do think Bruno is good enough to drop a little deeper at times to help us in midfield. With better forward we should hopefully not be as reliant on him for goals.
The 4231 is horrible, but it seems like it's the only way he'll play to work around Bruno and Pogba.
Much as I love Ole, I suspect a different manager would walk in, change the formation and team sheet and we'd see a different United. I'm really hoping he can do this himself
We've talked a lot about the Pogba tactical conundrum (not right in a double pivot; not quite right as a number 10; we don't have the right blend of midfielders to play a 4-3-3). I think the OP highlights a related point, i.e. that Bruno's incredible productivity is one of the key reasons we stick with a formation that makes Pogba a bit of a problem.
I'd love to see us try the 4-3-3 as Diafol proposes, but I have a feeling that it's a long shot. Not just in terms of the different role curbing Bruno's attacking contributions, but I have some doubts Bruno can perform as an 8 as well as he does as a 10. Temperamentally, he's an attacking player and while he's intelligent and hard working, there's quite a difference between that 'controlling a game' role and what he does now. Especially if the other 8 is Pogba, whose instincts are also to look for the killer move. In a midfield three featuring a DM and Pogba, I think e.g. Tielemans would be a better player than Fernandes. And potentially one of our existing midfielders would blend better than Bruno, even though he's on a higher level.
It is a conundrum for Ole. You do feel we have some incredible attacking tools and also, on paper, a pretty solid defence. If we can just set the midfield up right we could be very good.
I wouldn't want to curb Bruno's attacking instinct really. Perhaps just bring him back a bit into midfield at times. It's certainly something I hope our coaching staff are looking at though in terms of little tweaks that can make us more effective.
Bruno played as an 8 for Sporting and Portugal at times, I think he''s versatile enough to fit into a 433.
The problem with Bruno and our formation as you rightly pointed out, is that it's geared towards getting the best out of Bruno in terms of goals and assists.
I think this is to the detriment of the team over 38 games. Bruno is almost playing like a striker and is hardly ever occupying the spaces in between the oppositions midfield and defence. He's always looking to run in behind, this was a problem against Villareal in particular.
I think putting him in a 433 and dragging him back slightly down the pitch will benefit the team immensely. The fluidity and attacking potency of our team is more important than individual stats.
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
i feel like some people are judging bruno entirely on his immediate success at united, rather than what we have seen over the past 12 months or so.
his output is very good, but it isn't "amazing/incredible/insert impressed adjective of choice". last season he managed 9 goals from open play - of which one was a mishit cross (everton), and one should probably have been given as an own goal (liverpool). he also had 11 assists, of which two were slightly dubious stick out a leg and a the ricochet falls to another attacker (one was leicester, can't remember the other one).
stripping out the penalties, that was 20 goal contributions, one every 155 minutes.
to put that into context pogba has managed one every 169 minutes (17/18 and 18/19 combined) from midfield, bruno was the 4th most productive per 90 minutes of united's players last season (behind cavani, rashford, and...wait for it, martial), quite a way behind the leadiing players in the pl (eg son was every 116 minutes, kane every 94), and a country mile behind the top players in europe (eg messi at 74 minutes).
he hasn't even had a season as good as dele alli managed, from a similar position, at the age of 20. and for someone often labelled the creative hub of united, he has a single assist in his last 18 pl matches, against brighton.
tl:dr he's good, but not that good, and the team should not be set up solely to maximise his productivity.
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
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if you went with that last option then there is no difference between 4123 and 433.
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
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if you went with that last option then there is no difference between 4123 and 433.
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In the 4-3-3 the three in the middle would be Fred (LM), McT (middle) and Bruno (RM) for example.
We probably need to get a really top class DM for Bruno and Pogba to properly work in a three.
Ross
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Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
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In the 4-3-3 the three in the middle would be Fred (LM), McT (middle) and Bruno (RM) for example.
We probably need to get a really top class DM for Bruno and Pogba to properly work in a three.
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against leeds and southampton we weren't a million miles from a 4-3-3 anyway, pogba doesn't play for us as a "left winger", whatever the graphics may say, so his role isn't far off a standard advanced midfield one in that formation (after leeds ole even said he'd basically told him to play wherever he wanted, which oddly enough was as a left-sided advcanced midfielder...who knew?)
when pogba play in the 2, and we end up with that weird 4-2-4 formation we sometimes employ, is when we have problems.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ross
———
Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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FFS!
That's what I'll be calling him from now on in though!
Ross has a kind of hippy, earth-loving vibe.
Ross probably lives abroad but keeps it on the QT.
Ross likes the subtler things in life in addition to the simpler things.
Ross doesn't think of himself as an intellectual but probably is.
Ross will make friends with anyone but won't suffer any fools.
Ross.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
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I agree.
He often plays too far forward.
Even though it worked in our favour against Leeds his 3 goals were essentially centre forward style goals.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
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I agree.
He often plays too far forward.
Even though it worked in our favour against Leeds his 3 goals were essentially centre forward style goals.
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Yup and that's all well and good but over 38 games we'll suffer for it, just like we suffered against Southampton.
I hope Ole corrects this.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Ross
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Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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One quite good reason would be that it isn’t actually my name
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Ross
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Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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One quite good reason would be that it isn’t actually my name
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tbf it is easier to type than "peregrine"
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Bruno's Output and 4-3-3
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posted on 7/9/21
I do think we'll see the 433, probably with McTominay just behind Pogba and Bruno.
I don't think Bruno has been accommodated to the detriment of the team. He's comfortable as an attacking midfielder/support striker and has the intelligence to make excellent runs. He's more of a Lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes, a really intelligent player.
Mike Phelan confirmed in pre season that they would be looking to implement a more attacking 433 but remain fluid in a few different formations. Draws cost us big time last season and I think we'll see him throw the kitchen sink more often.
I don't think we draw that game with Southampton with the team we'll have up and running in a couple of months, I really don't.
His output will most likely drop a bit but considering he has more goal contributions from signing up to the start of September than any other Prem player, it's not like it will hurt his numbers too badly. We have a lot fo players who will expect to be scoring and assisting, partly why I think Lukaku may out score Ronaldo, I think we'll get goals chipped in from all over the place rather than having a single point of attack.
posted on 7/9/21
It's fairly obvious Ole likes the 4231, I don't see that changing because we have signed Ronaldo.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 4 minutes ago
I do think we'll see the 433, probably with McTominay just behind Pogba and Bruno.
I don't think Bruno has been accommodated to the detriment of the team. He's comfortable as an attacking midfielder/support striker and has the intelligence to make excellent runs. He's more of a Lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes, a really intelligent player.
Mike Phelan confirmed in pre season that they would be looking to implement a more attacking 433 but remain fluid in a few different formations. Draws cost us big time last season and I think we'll see him throw the kitchen sink more often.
I don't think we draw that game with Southampton with the team we'll have up and running in a couple of months, I really don't.
His output will most likely drop a bit but considering he has more goal contributions from signing up to the start of September than any other Prem player, it's not like it will hurt his numbers too badly. We have a lot fo players who will expect to be scoring and assisting, partly why I think Lukaku may out score Ronaldo, I think we'll get goals chipped in from all over the place rather than having a single point of attack.
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I hope we will use more of the 4-3-3. My post wasn't being negative about Bruno it was just about setting up to get the best out of our best player.
Hopefully as the squad has improved we'll have even more game changers to call upon now which should hopefully lead to more goal contributions across the board.
posted on 7/9/21
I do believe we will have a change of style. Ronaldo and Bruno and maybe Rashford is going force the team to change its style. More crosses, More long balls, More direct style.
What may be tried but highly ill advised will be a 4-3-3. We have to be honest with ourselves. Our defence needs protection. 4-3-3 relies MASSIVELY on the 3 midfielders being all action, highly skilled, highly percentage passers. We literally do not have one midfielder good enough for a 4-3-3.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 5 seconds ago
I do believe we will have a change of style. Ronaldo and Bruno and maybe Rashford is going force the team to change its style. More crosses, More long balls, More direct style.
What may be tried but highly ill advised will be a 4-3-3. We have to be honest with ourselves. Our defence needs protection. 4-3-3 relies MASSIVELY on the 3 midfielders being all action, highly skilled, highly percentage passers. We literally do not have one midfielder good enough for a 4-3-3.
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Fair point although I do think Bruno is good enough to drop a little deeper at times to help us in midfield. With better forward we should hopefully not be as reliant on him for goals.
posted on 7/9/21
The 4231 is horrible, but it seems like it's the only way he'll play to work around Bruno and Pogba.
Much as I love Ole, I suspect a different manager would walk in, change the formation and team sheet and we'd see a different United. I'm really hoping he can do this himself
posted on 7/9/21
We've talked a lot about the Pogba tactical conundrum (not right in a double pivot; not quite right as a number 10; we don't have the right blend of midfielders to play a 4-3-3). I think the OP highlights a related point, i.e. that Bruno's incredible productivity is one of the key reasons we stick with a formation that makes Pogba a bit of a problem.
I'd love to see us try the 4-3-3 as Diafol proposes, but I have a feeling that it's a long shot. Not just in terms of the different role curbing Bruno's attacking contributions, but I have some doubts Bruno can perform as an 8 as well as he does as a 10. Temperamentally, he's an attacking player and while he's intelligent and hard working, there's quite a difference between that 'controlling a game' role and what he does now. Especially if the other 8 is Pogba, whose instincts are also to look for the killer move. In a midfield three featuring a DM and Pogba, I think e.g. Tielemans would be a better player than Fernandes. And potentially one of our existing midfielders would blend better than Bruno, even though he's on a higher level.
posted on 7/9/21
It is a conundrum for Ole. You do feel we have some incredible attacking tools and also, on paper, a pretty solid defence. If we can just set the midfield up right we could be very good.
I wouldn't want to curb Bruno's attacking instinct really. Perhaps just bring him back a bit into midfield at times. It's certainly something I hope our coaching staff are looking at though in terms of little tweaks that can make us more effective.
posted on 7/9/21
Bruno played as an 8 for Sporting and Portugal at times, I think he''s versatile enough to fit into a 433.
The problem with Bruno and our formation as you rightly pointed out, is that it's geared towards getting the best out of Bruno in terms of goals and assists.
I think this is to the detriment of the team over 38 games. Bruno is almost playing like a striker and is hardly ever occupying the spaces in between the oppositions midfield and defence. He's always looking to run in behind, this was a problem against Villareal in particular.
I think putting him in a 433 and dragging him back slightly down the pitch will benefit the team immensely. The fluidity and attacking potency of our team is more important than individual stats.
posted on 7/9/21
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
posted on 7/9/21
i feel like some people are judging bruno entirely on his immediate success at united, rather than what we have seen over the past 12 months or so.
his output is very good, but it isn't "amazing/incredible/insert impressed adjective of choice". last season he managed 9 goals from open play - of which one was a mishit cross (everton), and one should probably have been given as an own goal (liverpool). he also had 11 assists, of which two were slightly dubious stick out a leg and a the ricochet falls to another attacker (one was leicester, can't remember the other one).
stripping out the penalties, that was 20 goal contributions, one every 155 minutes.
to put that into context pogba has managed one every 169 minutes (17/18 and 18/19 combined) from midfield, bruno was the 4th most productive per 90 minutes of united's players last season (behind cavani, rashford, and...wait for it, martial), quite a way behind the leadiing players in the pl (eg son was every 116 minutes, kane every 94), and a country mile behind the top players in europe (eg messi at 74 minutes).
he hasn't even had a season as good as dele alli managed, from a similar position, at the age of 20. and for someone often labelled the creative hub of united, he has a single assist in his last 18 pl matches, against brighton.
tl:dr he's good, but not that good, and the team should not be set up solely to maximise his productivity.
posted on 7/9/21
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
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if you went with that last option then there is no difference between 4123 and 433.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
The time to shift to 4-3-3 based on personnel was when LVG was in charge. Could have happened under Jose, could have happened when Ole took charge.
Having signed Bruno, in particular, but also considering other changes in personnel over the last few seasons (including the signings of Sancho, Maguire and AWB), it’d make less sense now than it would have at any other time since Moyes’s sacking.
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Ross. Do you really think having Pogba and Bruno makes it that unworkable? I'd be interested to know why you don't think it'd work. Would you be more in favour if the three would be McT, Fred and Pogba/Bruno?
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if you went with that last option then there is no difference between 4123 and 433.
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In the 4-3-3 the three in the middle would be Fred (LM), McT (middle) and Bruno (RM) for example.
We probably need to get a really top class DM for Bruno and Pogba to properly work in a three.
posted on 7/9/21
Ross
———
Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
posted on 7/9/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
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In the 4-3-3 the three in the middle would be Fred (LM), McT (middle) and Bruno (RM) for example.
We probably need to get a really top class DM for Bruno and Pogba to properly work in a three.
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against leeds and southampton we weren't a million miles from a 4-3-3 anyway, pogba doesn't play for us as a "left winger", whatever the graphics may say, so his role isn't far off a standard advanced midfield one in that formation (after leeds ole even said he'd basically told him to play wherever he wanted, which oddly enough was as a left-sided advcanced midfielder...who knew?)
when pogba play in the 2, and we end up with that weird 4-2-4 formation we sometimes employ, is when we have problems.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ross
———
Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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FFS!
That's what I'll be calling him from now on in though!
posted on 7/9/21
It suits him.
posted on 7/9/21
Ross has a kind of hippy, earth-loving vibe.
Ross probably lives abroad but keeps it on the QT.
Ross likes the subtler things in life in addition to the simpler things.
Ross doesn't think of himself as an intellectual but probably is.
Ross will make friends with anyone but won't suffer any fools.
Ross.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
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I agree.
He often plays too far forward.
Even though it worked in our favour against Leeds his 3 goals were essentially centre forward style goals.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona đđź đľđ¸ (U18082)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I’d like to see this too although I’m not sure you can say Bruno has been in any way detrimental considering we were mid table when he signed.
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Not him as a player, the way he's being used.
Compared to the top teams, we are hardly ever able to play in between the lines. Bruno playing on the shoulder of the last defender a lot of the time, is part of the problem.
It feels like we switch into a 442 when we attack.
You look at Brunos heat maps and it's almost identical to Cavani's.
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I agree.
He often plays too far forward.
Even though it worked in our favour against Leeds his 3 goals were essentially centre forward style goals.
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Yup and that's all well and good but over 38 games we'll suffer for it, just like we suffered against Southampton.
I hope Ole corrects this.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Ross
———
Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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One quite good reason would be that it isn’t actually my name
posted on 7/9/21
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback (U17054)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Ross
———
Why haven’t we been calling him this for years?
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One quite good reason would be that it isn’t actually my name
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tbf it is easier to type than "peregrine"
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