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comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 11/9/21

For me the damage was done from a severely limited squad due to injuries and a lack of strength in depth. We were never going to win that game. The disruption to the defence aside, there are so few goalscoring options in this team and it was pathetic we didn't try to address this in the window. One of our only 2 regular scorers out today leaves us with too little going forward, and yes even with Kane, because he sadly isn't the goalscorer he has been and needs support alongside him.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 11/9/21

Nah can't blame the decisions today, other than those of the manager unfortunately

posted on 11/9/21

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 14 seconds ago
Nah can't blame the decisions today, other than those of the manager unfortunately
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I agree that Nuno got a lot wrong, and arguably the worst decision of anyone on the pitch was that of Tanganga diving in when already on a yellow.

But the chain of decisions I mentioned did ultimately change the course of the game, and on another day any one of those could have gone another way.

posted on 11/9/21

Place was better from almost the start imo. Played the more positive Football and could have had a couple more.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/9/21

There was only one decision that cost us today which was Tanganga letting his ego and temper get the better of him.

If this was a latin american or Italian CB playing at the highest level he would have wound Zaha up and got him sent off. But our Tanganga was stupid enough let his ego get the better of him, lose his head and get himself sent off!

If I were Nuno I would try to turn this into a positive by dropping him down to the last choice centreback to teach him that his ego and rash decisions let both the team and the fans down!

I definately think that there is a player in there but that level of aggression and his inability to control it is something that you see on the Hackney marshes, not in the premier league.

posted on 11/9/21



There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.

posted on 11/9/21

comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at least (U3823)
posted 13 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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Why worry about facts when you can just make stuff up right?

Good work.

posted on 11/9/21

comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at leas... (U3823)
posted 13 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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I feel that you’ve missed the point of the OP’s article.

Games can be won and lost on fine margins, and the OP is justified in highlighting these. Would the outcome have been different? No one knows, but it’s a valid observation, and even if none of the decisions made were wrong (which the OP specifically states), had one or more of those decisions gone the “other way”, then the outcome could (that’s could) have been different. And no less (or more) contentious.

I’m surprised by the naivety of your comment to be honest. This is the kind of topic that is the bread and butter of sites like this and among fans week in week out.

posted on 11/9/21

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 21 minutes ago
There was only one decision that cost us today which was Tanganga letting his ego and temper get the better of him.

If this was a latin american or Italian CB playing at the highest level he would have wound Zaha up and got him sent off. But our Tanganga was stupid enough let his ego get the better of him, lose his head and get himself sent off!

If I were Nuno I would try to turn this into a positive by dropping him down to the last choice centreback to teach him that his ego and rash decisions let both the team and the fans down!

I definately think that there is a player in there but that level of aggression and his inability to control it is something that you see on the Hackney marshes, not in the premier league.
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When everyone’s fit, available, and settled in the squad…I don’t see Tanganga as being part of the first team. I think he’s solid but not great.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 11/9/21

comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 21 minutes ago
There was only one decision that cost us today which was Tanganga letting his ego and temper get the better of him.

If this was a latin american or Italian CB playing at the highest level he would have wound Zaha up and got him sent off. But our Tanganga was stupid enough let his ego get the better of him, lose his head and get himself sent off!

If I were Nuno I would try to turn this into a positive by dropping him down to the last choice centreback to teach him that his ego and rash decisions let both the team and the fans down!

I definately think that there is a player in there but that level of aggression and his inability to control it is something that you see on the Hackney marshes, not in the premier league.
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When everyone’s fit, available, and settled in the squad…I don’t see Tanganga as being part of the first team. I think he’s solid but not great.
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You have a point, but he has potential and if things go his way he could play his way up the pecking order. I actually think that he has really damaged his chances with his hot headed moments today.

posted on 11/9/21

Moss and his assistant knew exactly what they were doing, they could not wait to give a penalty and dished out a second yellow for Tanganga without a seconds thought.

Moss is a well known Penited fan, so no surprise he did not think twice about those decisions, as us losing meant Penited would leapfrog us in the table.

His whole performance was very pro Palace, for example the only free kicks he gave us were in our own half, and he ignored several nailed on free kicks to us in the Palace half.

Yes our performance was poor, but some of that can be attributed to one sided refereeing, as the dynamic of a game can be influenced by the referees decision making.

I will also bet my bottom dollar their will be another hand ball similar to the Davies incident, and nothing will be given either by the referee or VAR. Likewise with the Zaha hand to the throat, I would wager we will see a player sent off this season for similar.

It is the inconsistency of it all and clear favour towards certain clubs that drives us all potty.

posted on 11/9/21

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at leas... (U3823)
posted 13 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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I feel that you’ve missed the point of the OP’s article.

Games can be won and lost on fine margins, and the OP is justified in highlighting these. Would the outcome have been different? No one knows, but it’s a valid observation, and even if none of the decisions made were wrong (which the OP specifically states), had one or more of those decisions gone the “other way”, then the outcome could (that’s could) have been different. And no less (or more) contentious.

I’m surprised by the naivety of your comment to be honest. This is the kind of topic that is the bread and butter of sites like this and among fans week in week out.
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This guy gets it.

I don’t actually feel we were overly hard done by on any decisions. My intention was just to highlight how any one of those decisions could have led to changing the result significantly. It’s worth bearing in mind when we’re getting all doom and gloom about how rubbish we were.

comment by Ace (U22467)

posted on 11/9/21

No excuses for our loss today we were a joke, but Jon Moss was appalling and should be reffing Championship games next week imo. I don’t normally slate refs but he was that bad today it was unreal.

comment by Ace (U22467)

posted on 11/9/21

comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at least (U3823)
posted 56 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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Who the fack are you? You clearly know nothing. Stop talking out of your facking arrsehole mate you clueless mug, or I’ll come round and smash your teeth out. Facking plastic scouse loser.

posted on 11/9/21

With regard to decision making, a tell tale sign that the decision maker is either incompetent, swayed by the crowd or has an agenda, is the speed at which the decision is made.

I play amateur cricket and in some games the players have to do our own umpiring, you can see those that don`t know what they are doing a mile off, because when they are shouted at, their finger is quicker on the draw than Clint Eastwood, without even a moments thought to consider the appeal.

The same applies to PL referees, only they have tens of thousands of fans baying for a decision. Every time I see a referee make a rapid and instant decision, I am always suspicious, I much prefer it when they take couple of seconds and make a considered decision.

posted on 11/9/21

OP

Also Moura was clearly fouled by the last man on one occasion, but the ref just waved play on. The ref may as well been playing for Palace.

posted on 11/9/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at least (U3823)
posted 56 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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Who the fack are you? You clearly know nothing. Stop talking out of your facking arrsehole mate you clueless mug, or I’ll come round and smash your teeth out. Facking plastic scouse loser.
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posted on 11/9/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Sir Bob's Back......For this week at least (U3823)
posted 56 minutes ago


There were no fine margins.

None of the decisions were even close to being wrong.

Spurs never stop play when there is a player down injured.


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Who the fack are you? You clearly know nothing. Stop talking out of your facking arrsehole mate you clueless mug, or I’ll come round and smash your teeth out. Facking plastic scouse loser.
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Now Now Ace....stop bullying this poor little schoolboy!

posted on 11/9/21

Fine margins - you're right.. Moura stayed down in the hope that his acting could stop a counter attack.

He didn’t need treatment or anything and was up bounding around anyway.

There was no need to stop play, however he fooled Tanganga who took “retribution” on Zaha, and the proceeded to get more wound up by Zaha continually talking at him, which in the end got him a second yellow for a lunge.

Well done Moura.. you fooled your own player and effectively played a huge part in him getting sent off.

posted on 11/9/21

for example the only free kicks he gave us were in our own half,

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Yeah cos you were continually in Palaces half.. second best in every department including possession and territorial advantage.

Take the ‘L’ and stop making stuff up.

comment by Ace (U22467)

posted on 11/9/21

comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 15 minutes ago
for example the only free kicks he gave us were in our own half,

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Yeah cos you were continually in Palaces half..second best in every department including possession and territorial advantage.

Take the ‘L’ and stop making stuff up.
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Ignore this bum, his wife left him for a good reason.

posted on 11/9/21

what’s the matter Ace? Awww you’re not still upset about getting slaughtered on the other thread…

posted on 11/9/21

Oh and because of the sending off Davies got brought on who conceded the pen for the first goal.



It’s all so so Spursy.. self inflicted.

comment by Ace (U22467)

posted on 11/9/21

comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 14 minutes ago
what’s the matter Ace? Awww you’re not still upset about getting slaughtered on the other thread…
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I’m a bit embarrassed for you mate, received a lot of genuine messages of goodwill from all across this forum including from me, but didn’t take you long to go back to being a dikhead.

posted on 11/9/21

Tesco José will be sacked by Christmas.

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