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posted on 8/10/21

I'd be quite surprised if Newcastle have him near the top of the list. Much like when we brought him in his prestige is on his brand.

If Newcastle were to go for him I'd be surprised if he went for it. He strikes me as the type that won't jump for a job that might not be that secure. I think he'll have seen mates like Lampard and remind himself in that league your name wears out fast. He's also had major problems in the cups which I think Newcastle fans really want their club to take seriously so continue that record and it might be a short stay if he ended up there.

Yes he'd be a miss but not a disaster to replace. He won the league and has generally done well in Europe so his time with Rangers is undoubtedly a success. I don't want to disrespect him too much but his development as a coach is significantly slower or less than his development as a young player. He's quite likely to just be alright at the management game and that's fine if Scotland is his level. It's not if England is.

posted on 8/10/21

Conte is the obvious choice but outside him where do they go? Eddie Howe?

If it's a choice between Gerrard and Howe I think Gerrard wins every day of the week.

posted on 8/10/21

He would be mental not to go for it. Newcastle haven't won anything since the 50s and suddenly with this new ownership it becomes only a matter of time before that changes.

His ultimate job is Liverpool so being the guy who won Rangers and Newcastle their first trophies in a long time is a perfect way to get there. Newcastle is a no lose job under a billionare owner and it has the football fever and passion aspect of it in a one club city that he loves. Also closer to his family.

If they came in for him he would 100% grab it and he would be right to as well.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 1 minute ago
Conte is the obvious choice but outside him where do they go? Eddie Howe?

If it's a choice between Gerrard and Howe I think Gerrard wins every day of the week.
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Howe and Gerrard would both (IMHO) be very underwhelming for the Geordie faithful. Out of the 2 though - Gerrard every time.

posted on 8/10/21

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posted on 8/10/21

Gerrard has done a good job given the circumstances when he arrived to where Rangers are now. Won the league again, so bridged and exceeded the gap from themselves and Celtic and managed to make Rangers a more than competitive side in Europe again (even if it is only the EL). I'm sure he'd have wanted a CL group stage place alongside another trophy, but you can't have it all and he's achieved a lot tbf.

Would he be better than Bruce? Hard to tell as he's an unknown quantity at the moment in terms of management in the PL, but I certainly think he's earned his opportunity and looking at how well Leicester have progressed since the arrival of Brendan Rodgers from Celtic, possibly up until this point, maybe that winning attitude and experience can be taken into Newcastle.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
Gerrard has done a good job given the circumstances when he arrived to where Rangers are now. Won the league again, so bridged and exceeded the gap from themselves and Celtic and managed to make Rangers a more than competitive side in Europe again (even if it is only the EL). I'm sure he'd have wanted a CL group stage place alongside another trophy, but you can't have it all and he's achieved a lot tbf.

Would he be better than Bruce? Hard to tell as he's an unknown quantity at the moment in terms of management in the PL, but I certainly think he's earned his opportunity and looking at how well Leicester have progressed since the arrival of Brendan Rodgers from Celtic, possibly up until this point, maybe that winning attitude and experience can be taken into Newcastle.
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I think that's a good post and pretty much spot on.

Given that the winners of this year's SPFL go straight into the CL Group Stages though - I think he will fancy a crack at getting to them.

Think it's a big deal for him to sample the CL music at a packed Ibrox.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 8/10/21

This article is proper reaching

Gerrard has done very well at Rangers
He stopped 10iar and in 3 years turned a terrible Rangers team under Pedro into an unbeaten championship winning side that was also doing well in Europe

If Ange Postecoglou does that with Celtic in the next 3 years......he will be seen as a god in the East end

So to say Gerrard ain't all that great, frankly, is sheer ignorance to the job he faced when he came in, and where we are now

posted on 8/10/21

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
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In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
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On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup

posted on 8/10/21

If nothing else he would buy the new regime time. It's hard to get a new Manager in October with no immediate transfer window and the one in January is notoriously difficult. I can't see any of the elite Managers taking it just now unless they are out of work.

Gerrard would be a message to the support, just like it was at Rangers, that the club is still big enough and attractive enough to lure that kind of name. It would also be a signal of endorsement of the new regime.

They might decide they only want him short term and replace him in summer, who knows. But in terms of instant appeal he's more of a contender than most.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
This article is proper reaching

Gerrard has done very well at Rangers
He stopped 10iar and in 3 years turned a terrible Rangers team under Pedro into an unbeaten championship winning side that was also doing well in Europe

If Ange Postecoglou does that with Celtic in the next 3 years......he will be seen as a god in the East end

So to say Gerrard ain't all that great, frankly, is sheer ignorance to the job he faced when he came in, and where we are now
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Absolute nonsense.

If AP wins no trophies in two years he will get fired.

posted on 8/10/21

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posted on 8/10/21

I think it's unlikely that Stevie G would want to go and work for a shower of crooks and charlatans.

Hang on....

posted on 8/10/21

comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
This article is proper reaching

Gerrard has done very well at Rangers
He stopped 10iar and in 3 years turned a terrible Rangers team under Pedro into an unbeaten championship winning side that was also doing well in Europe

If Ange Postecoglou does that with Celtic in the next 3 years......he will be seen as a god in the East end

So to say Gerrard ain't all that great, frankly, is sheer ignorance to the job he faced when he came in, and where we are now
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Absolute nonsense.

If AP wins no trophies in two years he will get fired.
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it won't take 2 years, at the same team Celtic fans were heralding the greatest achievement the quad treble they were turning on the man who brought them it.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by Zachsda(played 6, lost 3, he is the GP) (U1850)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
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I’m almost certain not plus a European Cup is a grammatically legitimate sentence regardless of its validity
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Maybe. But it conveys the point.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
This article is proper reaching

Gerrard has done very well at Rangers
He stopped 10iar and in 3 years turned a terrible Rangers team under Pedro into an unbeaten championship winning side that was also doing well in Europe

If Ange Postecoglou does that with Celtic in the next 3 years......he will be seen as a god in the East end

So to say Gerrard ain't all that great, frankly, is sheer ignorance to the job he faced when he came in, and where we are now
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolute nonsense.

If AP wins no trophies in two years he will get fired.
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it won't take 2 years, at the same team Celtic fans were heralding the greatest achievement the quad treble they were turning on the man who brought them it.


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Correct. Thanks for validating my point.

posted on 8/10/21

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posted on 8/10/21

comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
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on the basis that im a phanny who canny count

posted on 8/10/21

comment by Zachsda(played 6, lost 3, he is the GP) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m almost certain not plus a European Cup is a grammatically legitimate sentence regardless of its validity
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jock Stein.

Lasted 40 odd days in English football before he realised he was out of his depth and returned back to Scotland with his tail between his legs.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 8/10/21

comment by #55 Has Ruined Them! (U22266)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by #55 Has Ruined Them! (U22266)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
good point on Ange there.

say whats gerrards overall nett spend, players bought against players sold?
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Haha - the expected reply.

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quite, you never answered my question

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Just read that Angie has spent just shy of £20m so far and that doesn't include wages!

Way to go, ya flamin' galah!
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well, the point is that we have had to spend because we have sold players.

Rangers havent really sold anyone of value so just continue to spend.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
on the basis that im a phanny who canny count
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On that basis of that honest admission I'm prepared to agree on a draw 🤣🤣

posted on 8/10/21

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by #55 Has Ruined Them! (U22266)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by #55 Has Ruined Them! (U22266)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
good point on Ange there.

say whats gerrards overall nett spend, players bought against players sold?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Haha - the expected reply.

=======

quite, you never answered my question

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Just read that Angie has spent just shy of £20m so far and that doesn't include wages!

Way to go, ya flamin' galah!
----------------------------------------------------------------------


well, the point is that we have had to spend because we have sold players.

Rangers havent really sold anyone of value so just continue to spend.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that one of home grown players, Nathan Patterson, will go for a figure of around £15-20m and that will cover the spend of SG.

posted on 8/10/21

comment by #55 Has Ruined Them! (U22266)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Zachsda(played 6, lost 3, he is the GP) (U1850)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m almost certain not plus a European Cup is a grammatically legitimate sentence regardless of its validity
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jock Stein.

Lasted 40 odd days in English football before he realised he was out of his depth and returned back to Scotland with his tail between his legs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a sad way to view it.

posted on 8/10/21

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posted on 8/10/21

comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lennon was more successful as manager than Gerrard.
And massively more successful as a player.

Why are bears even trying to dispute that?

100% facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way as Walter Smith was a way more successful manager than Stein
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On what basis would you argue that??

Stein ....25 major domestic trophies plus a European Cup (not including 5 Glasgow Cups when it was something)

Smith....21 major domestic trophies not plus a European Cup
----------------------------------------------------------------------
on the basis that im a phanny who canny count
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On that basis of that honest admission I'm prepared to agree on a draw 🤣🤣
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draw is generous for me .... ill gladly take that!

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