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comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Way off? Goal difference currently separates us from Brighton in fourth. If United get a competent manager then we won’t stand a chance, but if they keep Ole then I would say 4th is achievable for us.
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Way off? Goal difference currently separates us from Brighton in fourth. If United get a competent manager then we won’t stand a chance, but if they keep Ole then I would say 4th is achievable for us.
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4th is achievable. Maybe higher if other teams get injuries or major loss of form but that's a big IF.
To be honest regarding Cups we have lost to Man City and Liverpool in our last two finals. I can't beat the team up for this. IF anything Poch let us down when we were top seeds for domestic cups. Love the guy but Cups and him weren't a match.
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
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I really hopenwe make it comfortably out the group stage then go all out.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Yup, Cup gets you Europe anyway. Even the UECL gets you Europa League also.
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comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
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I really hopenwe make it comfortably out the group stage then go all out.
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We need to be starting strong line ups against Vitesse and Rennes, Mura we can rotate much more as they are very poor.
Winning the group means we avoid playing an extra knockout round and will also mean we are seeded. Second means we have to play a Europa third place team in an earlier knock out round - which whilst not by any means daunting, it is an additional fixture we could do without. So go strong in 3 more games, 2 of which are at home and 1 a short hop to Holland and come March this competition could really open up for us.
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 9 minutes ago
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
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Hence why we should take the Euro competition seriously, along with Roma we are currently the big fish in that comp. We can’t complain about the rich clubs monopoly on domestic cups and then turn our nose up at the cup where we stand a very real chance because it lacks some of the glamour.
This Euro cup should be in our plans, and rotated teams to save ourselves for the league does not cut it for me. Most of this squad is used to playing mid week champions league and then premier league at the weekend, so playing far less competitive Euro fixtures mid week should not present a problem
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
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We were in the league cup final last year, it’s not exactly pie in the sky
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
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We were in the league cup final last year, it’s not exactly pie in the sky
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This season obvs.
I don’t think it’s really as simple as people try and make out - we’ve been going for cups for the past 5 years just haven’t had the quality/luck to take us over the line.
We aren’t in the 4 best teams in the league currently - I’d imagine if we face a better team taking the cup more seriously we are less likely to succeed. Too much random variation in trophy winning.
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think it’s really as simple as people try and make out - we’ve been going for cups for the past 5 years just haven’t had the quality/luck to take us over the line.
We aren’t in the 4 best teams in the league currently - I’d imagine if we face a better team taking the cup more seriously we are less likely to succeed. Too much random variation in trophy winning.
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Especially when you are in the top 4 favourites. However this isn't isn't case in UECL
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
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Cut our cloth accordingly then and go for the Euro comp - we definitely have a squad capable of winning that
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 12 minutes ago
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
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This is generally true but Redknapp was blessed with a massive squad and still managed to lose an FA Cup SF vs Pompey.
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 50 minutes ago
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
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Yup, we shouldn't let press or other clubs belittle the comp. They actually don't want us to win it because it still represents a cup and the narrative would have to stop.
Europe had 3 trophies before the champs league shake up so only people that don't understand this belittle UECL. There will still be big teams in the Final and the winning fans will celebrate.
We now fool ourselves into thinking Europa League and UECL don't count. Tell that to Sevilla. Who's fans are happier with their trophy cabinet....Spurs or Sevilla?
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 50 minutes ago
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
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Yup, we shouldn't let press or other clubs belittle the comp. They actually don't want us to win it because it still represents a cup and the narrative would have to stop.
Europe had 3 trophies before the champs league shake up so only people that don't understand this belittle UECL. There will still be big teams in the Final and the winning fans will celebrate.
We now fool ourselves into thinking Europa League and UECL don't count. Tell that to Sevilla. Who's fans are happier with their trophy cabinet....Spurs or Sevilla?
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Deep down if we were not in either cup we would be turning our noses up at both comps. Glad our participation has humbled us fans.
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
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I take your point ABC, but I think the cups are more open than that.
In the last 30 years you refer to, Leicester have been in 3 League Cup Finals and won 2 of them (lost the other one to Spurs!), plus one FA Cup Final which we won (this year v Chelsea), so smaller clubs can win trophies.
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
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I don’t think it’s made of tin and it is a trophy rather than a pot.
It is very much our current level, and I want us to go and win it
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
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I don’t think it’s made of tin and it is a trophy rather than a pot.
It is very much our current level, and I want us to go and win it
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This should be the mindset. Go and win it. Given the level of competition it will be a failure not to.
We have a great European history and have won the third tier European trophy before and been glad
However pissssy this cup is perceived as, its just embarrassing if we fail to at least make the final. We cant bleat its beneath us and then not even win it.
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posted on 19/10/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Way off? Goal difference currently separates us from Brighton in fourth. If United get a competent manager then we won’t stand a chance, but if they keep Ole then I would say 4th is achievable for us.
posted on 19/10/21
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Way off? Goal difference currently separates us from Brighton in fourth. If United get a competent manager then we won’t stand a chance, but if they keep Ole then I would say 4th is achievable for us.
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4th is achievable. Maybe higher if other teams get injuries or major loss of form but that's a big IF.
To be honest regarding Cups we have lost to Man City and Liverpool in our last two finals. I can't beat the team up for this. IF anything Poch let us down when we were top seeds for domestic cups. Love the guy but Cups and him weren't a match.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
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I really hopenwe make it comfortably out the group stage then go all out.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 16 minutes ago
Feels like this season, maybe more than any in recent history, should see Spurs going all out for a cup. Over the last 8 years or so Spurs have been expected to be right in the mix for top 4. It was obviously the priority for the owners and managers. This season Spurs are way off and there is no real expectation from the fans which should lift a bit of pressure. Why not go all out in the cups. I'm sure Spurs fans would prefer a cup and 8th to no cup and 5th.
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Yup, Cup gets you Europe anyway. Even the UECL gets you Europa League also.
posted on 19/10/21
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posted on 19/10/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Back to the article, I don’t get the snobbery at all for this Euro trophy. When Chelsea have dropped into the Europa they have just gone out and won it. We’re not above the Euro conference and if we take it seriously then we should be making the semis as an absolute minimum.
The club needs a trophy, Levy needs a trophy, Nuno could do with a trophy - here is a real opportunity to win one, let’s take it seriously.
League cup I couldn’t care less about, at some point you have to beat City and Pep loves that comp. Euro, as things stand, Roma and Jose are the major obstacle - difficult but we are capable of beating them.
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I really hopenwe make it comfortably out the group stage then go all out.
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We need to be starting strong line ups against Vitesse and Rennes, Mura we can rotate much more as they are very poor.
Winning the group means we avoid playing an extra knockout round and will also mean we are seeded. Second means we have to play a Europa third place team in an earlier knock out round - which whilst not by any means daunting, it is an additional fixture we could do without. So go strong in 3 more games, 2 of which are at home and 1 a short hop to Holland and come March this competition could really open up for us.
posted on 19/10/21
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
posted on 19/10/21
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 9 minutes ago
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
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Hence why we should take the Euro competition seriously, along with Roma we are currently the big fish in that comp. We can’t complain about the rich clubs monopoly on domestic cups and then turn our nose up at the cup where we stand a very real chance because it lacks some of the glamour.
This Euro cup should be in our plans, and rotated teams to save ourselves for the league does not cut it for me. Most of this squad is used to playing mid week champions league and then premier league at the weekend, so playing far less competitive Euro fixtures mid week should not present a problem
posted on 19/10/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
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We were in the league cup final last year, it’s not exactly pie in the sky
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'd rather get to a cup final before talking about winning a cup.
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We were in the league cup final last year, it’s not exactly pie in the sky
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This season obvs.
posted on 19/10/21
I don’t think it’s really as simple as people try and make out - we’ve been going for cups for the past 5 years just haven’t had the quality/luck to take us over the line.
We aren’t in the 4 best teams in the league currently - I’d imagine if we face a better team taking the cup more seriously we are less likely to succeed. Too much random variation in trophy winning.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t think it’s really as simple as people try and make out - we’ve been going for cups for the past 5 years just haven’t had the quality/luck to take us over the line.
We aren’t in the 4 best teams in the league currently - I’d imagine if we face a better team taking the cup more seriously we are less likely to succeed. Too much random variation in trophy winning.
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Especially when you are in the top 4 favourites. However this isn't isn't case in UECL
posted on 19/10/21
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
posted on 19/10/21
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
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Cut our cloth accordingly then and go for the Euro comp - we definitely have a squad capable of winning that
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 12 minutes ago
Maybe if we had better depth and quality in our squads we would have more chance, we are scraping the barrel sometimes to put out one decent team
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This is generally true but Redknapp was blessed with a massive squad and still managed to lose an FA Cup SF vs Pompey.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 50 minutes ago
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
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Yup, we shouldn't let press or other clubs belittle the comp. They actually don't want us to win it because it still represents a cup and the narrative would have to stop.
Europe had 3 trophies before the champs league shake up so only people that don't understand this belittle UECL. There will still be big teams in the Final and the winning fans will celebrate.
We now fool ourselves into thinking Europa League and UECL don't count. Tell that to Sevilla. Who's fans are happier with their trophy cabinet....Spurs or Sevilla?
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 50 minutes ago
Conference league is the only difference maker - a competition which we really should be winning if we tried
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Yup, we shouldn't let press or other clubs belittle the comp. They actually don't want us to win it because it still represents a cup and the narrative would have to stop.
Europe had 3 trophies before the champs league shake up so only people that don't understand this belittle UECL. There will still be big teams in the Final and the winning fans will celebrate.
We now fool ourselves into thinking Europa League and UECL don't count. Tell that to Sevilla. Who's fans are happier with their trophy cabinet....Spurs or Sevilla?
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Deep down if we were not in either cup we would be turning our noses up at both comps. Glad our participation has humbled us fans.
posted on 19/10/21
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
posted on 19/10/21
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
When people talk about how money has ruined football and essentially killed any real competition by putting all the power and resources in the hands of a few teams, they usually make that argument on the basis of the PL. But it’s also killed the cups as well. Prior to the PL one of the excitements of the cups was the unpredictability of it all, anyone could win, and if not anyone then a large array of teams. For the past 30 or so years however they have just been the preserve of five teams. Yes there have been a couple of anomalies here and there like Birmingham, Wigan, Swansea but they really are true anomalies and stick out like a sore thumb in the way they wouldn’t have done before. Spurs should probably have a better cup record, but that requires again the owners providing the manager with the right tools, and to be regular cup winners we need above all else a really deep squad, which we’ve never really had during ENIC’s tenure.
It’s all very well and good saying Spurs need to be winking more cups but how exactly are they supposed to do that when teams like City and Chelsea essentially have two squads both of which are better than our own. A lot of stars need to align for any team outside the dominant five to win a domestic trophy, and they only ever align every so often.
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I take your point ABC, but I think the cups are more open than that.
In the last 30 years you refer to, Leicester have been in 3 League Cup Finals and won 2 of them (lost the other one to Spurs!), plus one FA Cup Final which we won (this year v Chelsea), so smaller clubs can win trophies.
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
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I don’t think it’s made of tin and it is a trophy rather than a pot.
It is very much our current level, and I want us to go and win it
posted on 19/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
I’ve always been a big fan of the Europa - Europa conference league is a little tinpot though
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I don’t think it’s made of tin and it is a trophy rather than a pot.
It is very much our current level, and I want us to go and win it
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This should be the mindset. Go and win it. Given the level of competition it will be a failure not to.
We have a great European history and have won the third tier European trophy before and been glad
However pissssy this cup is perceived as, its just embarrassing if we fail to at least make the final. We cant bleat its beneath us and then not even win it.
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