comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
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The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
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The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
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I voted remain
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
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I voted remain
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I know you did.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
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Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
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Are you sure?
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comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 32 minutes ago
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
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Are you sure?
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According to Refugee watch/action.
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
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The trouble with our media is 80% of it is owned by 4 families
They show you what they want you to see, I work with some Iranians and Iraqis and they have news on their phones we just don’t see in our msm
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Allowing all media to be controlled by a few is the most ridiculous thing.
What do we think will happen? They won't twist the narrative to favout them and their cronies? Don't make me laugh.
When I was in Uni, the matter of media ownership wa stressed for a whole semester. Its common knowledge that you don't allow the same persons to control large parts of news reporting. I still can't believe it was allowed to happen in the country that gave birth to the common law. No one is supposed to be more awake to the dangers.
Ultimately its not too far away from a dictator that controls the flow of info in their country. That's why there is little opposition to the CCP in China, they control the flow of info.
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Business and media is being swallowed up by the super rich, soon you will have no choices as the 2% rule the 98%
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Exactly, and they're using the media to keep people distracted and in line.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 32 minutes ago
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
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Are you sure?
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According to Refugee watch/action.
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Nope.. incorrect.
You can clarify it from red cross
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The trouble with our media is 80% of it is owned by 4 families
They show you what they want you to see, I work with some Iranians and Iraqis and they have news on their phones we just don’t see in our msm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Allowing all media to be controlled by a few is the most ridiculous thing.
What do we think will happen? They won't twist the narrative to favout them and their cronies? Don't make me laugh.
When I was in Uni, the matter of media ownership wa stressed for a whole semester. Its common knowledge that you don't allow the same persons to control large parts of news reporting. I still can't believe it was allowed to happen in the country that gave birth to the common law. No one is supposed to be more awake to the dangers.
Ultimately its not too far away from a dictator that controls the flow of info in their country. That's why there is little opposition to the CCP in China, they control the flow of info.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Business and media is being swallowed up by the super rich, soon you will have no choices as the 2% rule the 98%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, and they're using the media to keep people distracted and in line.
------
Brexiy had to happen because being in the EU makes it impossible for the super rich to do as they please. they got people to vote away their only protection. Gonna get ripped apart like lambs by wolves now.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
======
Which part of Europe?
Projections suggest the north of Europe will turn into Siberia for 6 months every year. You'll need some serious air conditioning, which obviously won't be available.
Some people think global warming means an all together warming of the earth so that some don't care much about it as they think they'll be ok if they live in colder regions. That's not the case. Humanity can survive 40 degrees Celsius but not -20 degrees Celsius.
Studies suggest Africa (or parts of it) will be the world's food basket when climate change does its thing.
Equatorial Africa has always been, and will always be the place where you can live naked and without clothes all year round and not die because of extreme weather. The only place where you can survive without air conditioning and even without the ability to make a fire.
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As long as there's beer and Netflix, I'll live pretty much anywhere.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
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Fair enough, but compared to other countries of similar stature, you have to ask yourself how is it that this country makes the most noise about immigration when we've comparatively suffered the least and in most cases contributed more to creating the actual problems that make people flee their country.
Internally, we can tell ourselves sweet things but from the outside it looks a bit ridiculous.
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How can you claim to know how the general public of others countries feel regarding immigration?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
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Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
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But there are millions of things we have no personal experience of. What do you think of the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, is it possible to live on a state pension, is ZZ à good manager, are Google good for information, the list is endless. How could you have an opinion on Brexit without reading or watching the news.
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
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No country forces them to move there
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
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But there are millions of things we have no personal experience of. What do you think of the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, is it possible to live on a state pension, is ZZ à good manager, are Google good for information, the list is endless. How could you have an opinion on Brexit without reading or watching the news.
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Im not daying dontnwatch thr news. But the suggestion was that we are brainwashed by thr news corporations, when we arent.
You can talk to others with experience, do research, try and experience it yourself. There are lots of ways.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
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No country forces them to move there
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pardon?
No we don't force them to move he, neither does any other country force them to move to that country
People can claim asylum wherever they want and they should be welcomed because that's what a civilised society does.
It seems to me Don that you don't want 'these' people to come here at all, the excuse being we don't have facilities. So they can stay in poorer countries like Greece and Turkey where they have far fewer facilities.
It doesn't seem to bother you that they may have family here, or that the only European language they speak is English.
This appears to me to be bordering on racism, and I think it's the only time I've felt that on this thread.
52 - My position is nothing to do with race or colour and to suggest otherwise is daft and actually quite offensive.
It is my opinion that Britain cannot indefinitely take thousands and thousands of families in, because in my experience we do not have the resources / facilitities to do so.
That opinion doesnt change if those wanting to come here are white, Black, Asian or whatever.
See, 52? Its not racism. Its xenophobia.
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posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I voted remain
posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
To be honest I have no solution, also it is no longer my problem.
I consider I won the jackpot when I was born in England to à loving family.
I've experienced no war, hunger, cold, homelessness.
I've never been poor or rich.
I would like everyone to have the same chance, it's possible if we organise things differently.
Oh and cherry on the cake, my neighbour took me to Old Trafford when I was seven, so I've had hours of football giving me emotional highs and lows.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The baby boomer generation that came after WW2 have been very fortunate in many ways as you rightly mention living in an English utopia of cricket on the village green, warm beer and Eveningsong. Britain has of course had many conflicts since but mainly on foreign shores, out of sight and out of mind. Massive technological and financial and banking advance creating demand for skilled and professional workers creating huge economic growth. Joining the Common Market/EU and all the benefits of that for the last 50 years.
On the down side this generation generally accepted the consequential immigration required to fill the void this growth created particularly badly. And still do. The openly use of the world 'coloured' is particularly annoying by the over 70s to describe a non-white person. (I'm sure many Boomers still do that on purpose just to annoy). Also voting for Brexit as many Boomers did seems almost cruel to the younger people today, denying them of that security and international opportunity that everybody benefitted from since the 70s..
Now climate change is the next 'thing'. But as long as we all still live and breathe on this planet it is the responsibility of all of us to tackle it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I voted remain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know you did.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
posted on 20/10/21
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
-------
Are you sure?
posted on 20/10/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 32 minutes ago
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
-------
Are you sure?
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According to Refugee watch/action.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The trouble with our media is 80% of it is owned by 4 families
They show you what they want you to see, I work with some Iranians and Iraqis and they have news on their phones we just don’t see in our msm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Allowing all media to be controlled by a few is the most ridiculous thing.
What do we think will happen? They won't twist the narrative to favout them and their cronies? Don't make me laugh.
When I was in Uni, the matter of media ownership wa stressed for a whole semester. Its common knowledge that you don't allow the same persons to control large parts of news reporting. I still can't believe it was allowed to happen in the country that gave birth to the common law. No one is supposed to be more awake to the dangers.
Ultimately its not too far away from a dictator that controls the flow of info in their country. That's why there is little opposition to the CCP in China, they control the flow of info.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Business and media is being swallowed up by the super rich, soon you will have no choices as the 2% rule the 98%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, and they're using the media to keep people distracted and in line.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 32 minutes ago
"The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK."
-------
Are you sure?
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According to Refugee watch/action.
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Nope.. incorrect.
You can clarify it from red cross
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Citizen (U22721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The trouble with our media is 80% of it is owned by 4 families
They show you what they want you to see, I work with some Iranians and Iraqis and they have news on their phones we just don’t see in our msm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Allowing all media to be controlled by a few is the most ridiculous thing.
What do we think will happen? They won't twist the narrative to favout them and their cronies? Don't make me laugh.
When I was in Uni, the matter of media ownership wa stressed for a whole semester. Its common knowledge that you don't allow the same persons to control large parts of news reporting. I still can't believe it was allowed to happen in the country that gave birth to the common law. No one is supposed to be more awake to the dangers.
Ultimately its not too far away from a dictator that controls the flow of info in their country. That's why there is little opposition to the CCP in China, they control the flow of info.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Business and media is being swallowed up by the super rich, soon you will have no choices as the 2% rule the 98%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, and they're using the media to keep people distracted and in line.
------
Brexiy had to happen because being in the EU makes it impossible for the super rich to do as they please. they got people to vote away their only protection. Gonna get ripped apart like lambs by wolves now.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm sure climate change will shift populations all over the globe, and Europe will be a favoured destination.
======
Which part of Europe?
Projections suggest the north of Europe will turn into Siberia for 6 months every year. You'll need some serious air conditioning, which obviously won't be available.
Some people think global warming means an all together warming of the earth so that some don't care much about it as they think they'll be ok if they live in colder regions. That's not the case. Humanity can survive 40 degrees Celsius but not -20 degrees Celsius.
Studies suggest Africa (or parts of it) will be the world's food basket when climate change does its thing.
Equatorial Africa has always been, and will always be the place where you can live naked and without clothes all year round and not die because of extreme weather. The only place where you can survive without air conditioning and even without the ability to make a fire.
posted on 20/10/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/10/21
As long as there's beer and Netflix, I'll live pretty much anywhere.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Rest in Peace Lucky Dube - Nobody can stop Reggae (U1282)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough, but compared to other countries of similar stature, you have to ask yourself how is it that this country makes the most noise about immigration when we've comparatively suffered the least and in most cases contributed more to creating the actual problems that make people flee their country.
Internally, we can tell ourselves sweet things but from the outside it looks a bit ridiculous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How can you claim to know how the general public of others countries feel regarding immigration?
posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
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Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
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But there are millions of things we have no personal experience of. What do you think of the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, is it possible to live on a state pension, is ZZ à good manager, are Google good for information, the list is endless. How could you have an opinion on Brexit without reading or watching the news.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
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Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
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Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
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No country forces them to move there
posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
We are all dependent on the media, and thus how the news is presented.
No media means no news, we would no nothing about the world. And of course it helps shape people's opinion about everything.
I grew up with the Guardian in the house, I still read it so I'm left wing.
My brother in law takes the Telegraph, he of course, is right wing.
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Personal experiences are far more important than what some producer/ editor decides we should be told.
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But there are millions of things we have no personal experience of. What do you think of the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, is it possible to live on a state pension, is ZZ à good manager, are Google good for information, the list is endless. How could you have an opinion on Brexit without reading or watching the news.
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Im not daying dontnwatch thr news. But the suggestion was that we are brainwashed by thr news corporations, when we arent.
You can talk to others with experience, do research, try and experience it yourself. There are lots of ways.
posted on 20/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Thor
Nobody is crying, im certainly not dependant on the media for my opinions, and your claim the UK has done nothing to help out is just nonsense.
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Don't know if you read what I wrote earlier.
The UK signed up to the 1951 convention yet there is no legal way for asylum seekers to come to the UK.
The whole boats in the channel thing is a result of this. Arguably the deaths is a result of this.
Had we made a legal route for people to seek asylum there would be less deaths and we would have more control.
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We dont force these people to travel to the UK.
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No country forces them to move there
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pardon?
posted on 20/10/21
No we don't force them to move he, neither does any other country force them to move to that country
posted on 20/10/21
People can claim asylum wherever they want and they should be welcomed because that's what a civilised society does.
posted on 20/10/21
It seems to me Don that you don't want 'these' people to come here at all, the excuse being we don't have facilities. So they can stay in poorer countries like Greece and Turkey where they have far fewer facilities.
It doesn't seem to bother you that they may have family here, or that the only European language they speak is English.
This appears to me to be bordering on racism, and I think it's the only time I've felt that on this thread.
posted on 20/10/21
52 - My position is nothing to do with race or colour and to suggest otherwise is daft and actually quite offensive.
It is my opinion that Britain cannot indefinitely take thousands and thousands of families in, because in my experience we do not have the resources / facilitities to do so.
That opinion doesnt change if those wanting to come here are white, Black, Asian or whatever.
posted on 20/10/21
See, 52? Its not racism. Its xenophobia.
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