Livi player was rightly sent off for the slap but Kyogo clearly pushes him first and that is the initial foul, If we had VAR it'd be given as a free kick to Livi.
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
Angeball.
Failing to get the better of Livi.... LIVI ffs ...not once, but twice this season.
Can't even score against them with all their attacking superstars
And 'die hard Gers man' Madden handing them it on a plate as well.
They were so sure they'd be top of the league tonight as well.
Smirkathon.
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
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indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
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indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
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I'd doubt it. He's play acting but it's really just embellishing the daftness of livi goalie.
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
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VAR would have called the push by Kyogo as a foul and therefore it isn't a pen.
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
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indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
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I'd doubt it. He's play acting but it's really just embellishing the daftness of livi goalie.
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Wasn't the goalie?
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
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Its technically not a pen as Kyogo fouls the Livi player first.
Regardless of the lack of ‘violence’ of his push - it’s a push and it’s careless and against the rules (see the below)
Maybe the Red never seen Kyogo’s foul/push and thus that’s why he gave the pen though
Celtic were fortunate to get it in that respect though
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
Livi should have had a free kick in the first instance
‘ Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play.
Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges’
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
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It's those die-hard Masons...
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
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The rules say that any misconduct in which a direct free kick is awarded, which happens in the penalty area then penalty is given.
See the rules above.
The only think is that Kyogo is the first player in the situation to display misconduct
But a direct free kick wouldn't be awarded for an off the ball incident like that??
The other which came to mind is whether the ball is in play if it’s in the keepers hands
I think it is but I can’t find a decent definition of it.
Was thinking the other day about the time Craig Moore was clattered in a European game but we never got a pen because the corner hadn’t been taken at that point
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 23 seconds ago
But a direct free kick wouldn't be awarded for an off the ball incident like that??
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It should be according to the rules
Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
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The ball is in play when it's in the keepers hands.
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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Well according to 'some' on here - Celtic are going to strengthen in January and romp the league.
If that's not bravado, then what is?
For the record - I'll take a last minute, 1-0 against Murderwell tomorrow.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
Gonna stick my head out
We are due thumping someone
We haven't scored more than 2 goals in a game for ages
I'm saying it's gonna happen the morra
Ye heard it here first
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
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No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
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No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
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Haha. I get my free charging point installed in my driveway on Tuesday. Not got an electric car mind
One of the vans we leased is electric so we get it free. Not that it'll be anywhere near my house but thought why not
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
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No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
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Having a chug over a pic of wee Greta no doubt.
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posted on 30/10/21
Livi player was rightly sent off for the slap but Kyogo clearly pushes him first and that is the initial foul, If we had VAR it'd be given as a free kick to Livi.
posted on 30/10/21
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
posted on 30/10/21
Angeball.
Failing to get the better of Livi.... LIVI ffs ...not once, but twice this season.
Can't even score against them with all their attacking superstars
And 'die hard Gers man' Madden handing them it on a plate as well.
They were so sure they'd be top of the league tonight as well.
Smirkathon.
posted on 30/10/21
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
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indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
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I'd doubt it. He's play acting but it's really just embellishing the daftness of livi goalie.
posted on 30/10/21
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
posted on 30/10/21
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
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VAR would have called the push by Kyogo as a foul and therefore it isn't a pen.
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's embarrassing and blatent cheating. Morelos does that and there would be several tweets from Stewart and Sutton by now.
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indeed, going down holding his face when he got slapped on the back of the head is playacting, incoming 2 game surely
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I'd doubt it. He's play acting but it's really just embellishing the daftness of livi goalie.
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Wasn't the goalie?
posted on 30/10/21
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
It’s a pen, makes the most of it but of course you should in that position. Last minute needing the win.
They had their penalty taker on the pitch but let the wee daft Greek take it. Silly but it has taken the edge of their bravado.
Frustrating Madden let them off with facing a penalty though. Clear as the come.
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Its technically not a pen as Kyogo fouls the Livi player first.
Regardless of the lack of ‘violence’ of his push - it’s a push and it’s careless and against the rules (see the below)
Maybe the Red never seen Kyogo’s foul/push and thus that’s why he gave the pen though
Celtic were fortunate to get it in that respect though
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
Livi should have had a free kick in the first instance
‘ Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play.
Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges’
posted on 30/10/21
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
posted on 30/10/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
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It's those die-hard Masons...
posted on 30/10/21
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
————————
The rules say that any misconduct in which a direct free kick is awarded, which happens in the penalty area then penalty is given.
See the rules above.
The only think is that Kyogo is the first player in the situation to display misconduct
posted on 30/10/21
But a direct free kick wouldn't be awarded for an off the ball incident like that??
posted on 30/10/21
The other which came to mind is whether the ball is in play if it’s in the keepers hands
I think it is but I can’t find a decent definition of it.
Was thinking the other day about the time Craig Moore was clattered in a European game but we never got a pen because the corner hadn’t been taken at that point
posted on 30/10/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 23 seconds ago
But a direct free kick wouldn't be awarded for an off the ball incident like that??
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It should be according to the rules
Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:
posted on 30/10/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Perhaps I don't know the rules very well, but I dont understand how that's a penalty
The ball is in the keepers hands ...and the slap is an off the ball incident...that happens anywhere else on the park, play stops and then resumes with a drop ball...so why was a pen given?
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The ball is in play when it's in the keepers hands.
posted on 30/10/21
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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Well according to 'some' on here - Celtic are going to strengthen in January and romp the league.
If that's not bravado, then what is?
For the record - I'll take a last minute, 1-0 against Murderwell tomorrow.
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
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I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
posted on 30/10/21
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
posted on 30/10/21
Gonna stick my head out
We are due thumping someone
We haven't scored more than 2 goals in a game for ages
I'm saying it's gonna happen the morra
Ye heard it here first
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
posted on 30/10/21
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
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No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
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Haha. I get my free charging point installed in my driveway on Tuesday. Not got an electric car mind
One of the vans we leased is electric so we get it free. Not that it'll be anywhere near my house but thought why not
posted on 30/10/21
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by lauders 55 (U9757)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
Fwck me. There’s a few on here going to look right fwcking idiots IF they don’t win this league.
Bravado indeed. Let’s see what tomorrow brings (which I expect you to win of course). But if you don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't expect us to win. I also haven't fallen for this incredible Celtic side either
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Yep. Way too close for any bravado from either support. Yet still the fwckwits will embarrass themselves.
Hey ho. Still think you’ll play sheite tomorrow but scrape a 2-1 win.
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Would bite your hand off for that
Having a tipple tonight?
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No mate. Sat in a car park charging this thing
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Having a chug over a pic of wee Greta no doubt.
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