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Why do people still do this?

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posted on 1/12/21

comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 47 minutes ago
Why the surprise? We are surrounded by arseholes, probably around 40% of the population. Have the last couple of years taught you nothing?
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We all know it is wrong, we've all seen the stories of people getting records for sending abuse and yet, people still do it.

Clubs can easily tell who culprits are.
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Yeah, clubs should definitely be stronger and so to should fans at games, it isn't that hard to take note of a seat number and report it.
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How can you possibly take the number of a seat, unless you're literally sat next to them? It's not going to happen.

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Count? Ten rows forward, ten from the end etc. It isn't that tough is it.
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Ok, so in this case, a few thousand fans singing this chant. You start going round counting rows and seats and jotting them down? You’re on another planet.

Isolated incidents like coin throwing, monkey chanting are easy to report, but how can you police thousands of fans chanting? The only way is it punish the club and to be honest, unless it’s a serious problem like racism or happening all the time, it’s never going to happen.

I’ve been to hundreds of Leeds games and yes over the years some pretty bad chants, but in the last 10 years the homophobic stuff is few and far between.
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Not that I really want to go into the realms of oppression olympics but why should racism be treated differently to homophobia?

"Something serious like racism" makes it out like you don't think homophobia is just as serious.

If you don't believe that, fair enough it's just poorly worded.

posted on 1/12/21

Perhaps poorly worded.

posted on 2/12/21

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
“chelsea rent boy”

been sung for years, used to be funny, is a gay slur, times have changed.
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Used to be funny?only to the dim witted
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Very naive of you Nick. LIW is right of course - we’re all guilty of having made or laughed at gay jokes in the not too distant past. It’s not so long ago that most sitcoms relied on the stereotypical gay for cheap laughs. Thankfully times have moved on but homophobia is still rife, not least on the terraces.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 2/12/21

Never heard it but nothing surprises me these days.

Totally unacceptable.

posted on 2/12/21

If you knowingly offend another individual, you are discriminating against their preferences.

What you can’t do, is dictate to another person what they do and don’t find offensive, neither how they should define it. That is the right of any individual to assert it. Period. Disagree and immediately you yourself are discriminating against another viewpoint, and it becomes plain simple hypocrisy.

We used to call it minding your ps and qs.

In reality it’s polite and respectful not to knowingly offend anyone, and common sense to keep opinions to yourself.

That is a simple fact, but some people can’t handle people who disagree with them.

posted on 2/12/21

My father is nearly 90; summed it up nicely by saying he didn’t understand where all this behaviour came from and why they can’t just enjoy the football!! What confuses him is that these days some fans spend more time singing insults against the opposition that’s they do songs supporting their own players or team.

I’d say that’s spot in.

posted on 2/12/21

comment by Real Estate - Estemos Top Four de nuevo (U21471)
posted 11 minutes ago
My father is nearly 90; summed it up nicely by saying he didn’t understand where all this behaviour came from and why they can’t just enjoy the football!! What confuses him is that these days some fans spend more time singing insults against the opposition that’s they do songs supporting their own players or team.

I’d say that’s spot in.
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Wise words from your old dad - life in all its aspects is so much more complex than it used to be. Let's get back to basics and share your dad's philosophy: 'Just enjoy the football!'

posted on 2/12/21

comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Real Estate - Estemos Top Four de nuevo (U21471)
posted 11 minutes ago
My father is nearly 90; summed it up nicely by saying he didn’t understand where all this behaviour came from and why they can’t just enjoy the football!! What confuses him is that these days some fans spend more time singing insults against the opposition that’s they do songs supporting their own players or team.

I’d say that’s spot in.
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Wise words from your old dad - life in all its aspects is so much more complex than it used to be. Let's get back to basics and share your dad's philosophy: 'Just enjoy the football!'
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Suspect many of them chanting insults hardly see any of the match, the focus is often more on the opposing fans .....

posted on 2/12/21

comment by VOF - Its all about believing .... (U17124)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Real Estate - Estemos Top Four de nuevo (U21471)
posted 11 minutes ago
My father is nearly 90; summed it up nicely by saying he didn’t understand where all this behaviour came from and why they can’t just enjoy the football!! What confuses him is that these days some fans spend more time singing insults against the opposition that’s they do songs supporting their own players or team.

I’d say that’s spot in.
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Wise words from your old dad - life in all its aspects is so much more complex than it used to be. Let's get back to basics and share your dad's philosophy: 'Just enjoy the football!'
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Suspect many of them chanting insults hardly see any of the match, the focus is often more on the opposing fans .....
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I must admit, when I see Youtube footage from the terraces I'm amazed how much of fans' energies are spent abusing opposing supporters instead of chanting for their own team. Of course I know a lot of it is just banter but when I used to stand in the kop as a teenager, watching the match was the main activity. Mind you, the team was Bremner, Lorimer, Gray and Co so why would you want to miss a moment of that!

posted on 2/12/21

I'm too tight ... I pay to watch the footie, not someone in an Arsenal, Spurs or any other top. Never leave early either. Just a tight wad I guess?

posted on 2/12/21

"Of course I know a lot of it is just banter but when I used to stand in the kop as a teenager, watching the match was the main activity. Mind you, the team was Bremner, Lorimer, Gray and Co so why would you want to miss a moment of that!"

A shame those sort off players ain't around today, todays fall over merchants wouldn't be so keen on standing up again!..

And back then the insults fans threw at each other was a hell off a sight worst then these days, but its time people went with the times and understood that today isn't yesteryear and things are changing, they can moan all they want but whatever happens change is coming!..

posted on 5/12/21

If the truth be known, those that were abusing him are doing so not understanding their own attraction to him.

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