comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
I know.
It’s easily demonstrated by the way they are pursuing our players.
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Thats a different issue than them being good enough or not.
A team or group of teams not recognising quality isn't a new phenomenon. Example jumps out of Andy Robertson had all but Dundee United in the premier pass up signing him from Queen's Park. A third division team at the time didn't move for him that likely could have.
Using the Villa example, Jack Grealish only became a Premier league talent when villa got promoted?
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I don’t disagree.
I said that there isn’t a player who would be either taken by Villa and replace a current first team player.
The endurance is clear enough. Everton are paying up to £16m for a player who may make the grade there. I hope he does. The EPL teams can afford that without hardly batting an eyelid.
It would make sense for any of them to have a decent bid tabled for any of ours up here if they thought they’d get anywhere near a first team regular.
Yet…..
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Just because teams havent bid for players doesnt mean they are not good enough to play enough in the EPL.
There could be any number of reasons why that overly simplistic logic wouldnt stand up.
For example a team like Burnley would maybe love a player like Aribo but they might not have £10m+ to spend on a player and they might be realistic in knowing Aribo might not want to leave Rangers, give up a potential league title and playing in the latter stages of the EL for a relegation battle which could see him playing in the Championship next season.
If you are talking more mid table teams then again there loads of reasons - for example they may have a set budget, they may already have a decent number 10 creative type player and their priority might be their defence.
And then they might just not have made a bid YET.
Guys like Aribo, Morleos, Kent (?) I think are all entering the last 18 months of their deals. Their prices are probably at a peak right now.
If they wait until the end of the season to bid then their prices will come down.
To bid for a player a club has to think he is the right player at the right price at the right time and they have to think they can actually attract him to the club. Obviously the wages will be higher but on balance some players might want other things.
I think looking at it and saying that (as far as you know) there havent been any bids yet therefor the players arent good enough is vastly over simplistic IMO.
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It doesn’t really matter what the issues are; the bottom line is that EPL clubs like Villa don’t have the confidence to pay out money to anyone who will come in as a first team regular who will replace a current first team member.
And this in the time frame where Everton might end up paying up to £16m for a player who might eventually make it.
Sorry, but those clubs don’t believe that it’s worth their money. At least right now. Sure every now and again someone will make a bid for one of ours, but not as a direct replacement.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 24 minutes ago
Does anyone agree with Ginger?
That no SPFL player would get near this Villa side?
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Luiz
McGinn
Ramsay
Buendia
Ings
Watkins.
It's genuinely ludicrous to me to suggest we don't have a player in our league that is good enough to get near that side. Someone has bought into the EPL hype machine
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It’s not a court of public opinion man
Again I await the EPL sides including Villa making their next bid. I think they know what they are doing.
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Nobody agreeing with you
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Again. It’s not a court of public opinion. It’s facts.
Anyway, sod this. I’ve spent way too much time on it and I’m bored stupid. Give me a shout when an EPL club buys any of ours as a direct replacement for a first team player.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 24 minutes ago
Does anyone agree with Ginger?
That no SPFL player would get near this Villa side?
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Luiz
McGinn
Ramsay
Buendia
Ings
Watkins.
It's genuinely ludicrous to me to suggest we don't have a player in our league that is good enough to get near that side. Someone has bought into the EPL hype machine
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It’s not a court of public opinion man
Again I await the EPL sides including Villa making their next bid. I think they know what they are doing.
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Nobody agreeing with you
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Again. It’s not a court of public opinion. It’s facts.
Anyway, sod this. I’ve spent way too much time on it and I’m bored stupid. Give me a shout when an EPL club buys any of ours as a direct replacement for a first team player.
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ItS FaCtS
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
I know.
It’s easily demonstrated by the way they are pursuing our players.
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Thats a different issue than them being good enough or not.
A team or group of teams not recognising quality isn't a new phenomenon. Example jumps out of Andy Robertson had all but Dundee United in the premier pass up signing him from Queen's Park. A third division team at the time didn't move for him that likely could have.
Using the Villa example, Jack Grealish only became a Premier league talent when villa got promoted?
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I don’t disagree.
I said that there isn’t a player who would be either taken by Villa and replace a current first team player.
The endurance is clear enough. Everton are paying up to £16m for a player who may make the grade there. I hope he does. The EPL teams can afford that without hardly batting an eyelid.
It would make sense for any of them to have a decent bid tabled for any of ours up here if they thought they’d get anywhere near a first team regular.
Yet…..
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Just because teams havent bid for players doesnt mean they are not good enough to play enough in the EPL.
There could be any number of reasons why that overly simplistic logic wouldnt stand up.
For example a team like Burnley would maybe love a player like Aribo but they might not have £10m+ to spend on a player and they might be realistic in knowing Aribo might not want to leave Rangers, give up a potential league title and playing in the latter stages of the EL for a relegation battle which could see him playing in the Championship next season.
If you are talking more mid table teams then again there loads of reasons - for example they may have a set budget, they may already have a decent number 10 creative type player and their priority might be their defence.
And then they might just not have made a bid YET.
Guys like Aribo, Morleos, Kent (?) I think are all entering the last 18 months of their deals. Their prices are probably at a peak right now.
If they wait until the end of the season to bid then their prices will come down.
To bid for a player a club has to think he is the right player at the right price at the right time and they have to think they can actually attract him to the club. Obviously the wages will be higher but on balance some players might want other things.
I think looking at it and saying that (as far as you know) there havent been any bids yet therefor the players arent good enough is vastly over simplistic IMO.
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It doesn’t really matter what the issues are; the bottom line is that EPL clubs like Villa don’t have the confidence to pay out money to anyone who will come in as a first team regular who will replace a current first team member.
And this in the time frame where Everton might end up paying up to £16m for a player who might eventually make it.
Sorry, but those clubs don’t believe that it’s worth their money. At least right now. Sure every now and again someone will make a bid for one of ours, but not as a direct replacement.
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
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R£tard
Seriously?
Enough of you crawling around every post I make in trying to score little pathetic points. And then this. You are a one. Ta ta.
Grey line for you.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
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R£tard
Seriously?
Enough of you crawling around every post I make in trying to score little pathetic points. And then this. You are a one. Ta ta.
Grey line for you.
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aww wee snowflake....so you tell me to shut it, call me fktits, a fud.... I replay with one comment back and it "ye canny say that, bla bla bla" away you go ya greetin face double standard baw bag
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
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Erm. He came to our league from the EPL. My point was about any of our current crop being taken by an EPL team as a direct replacement for one of their current players.
But hey let’s spin that to suit.
Anyway, I said I’d leave it so I will
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah even an FA Cup game which would have been a decent start for Patterson at Everton, Coleman got the nod.
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And what conclusion are you drawing from that?
Everton have been after Patterson for a year. They paid up to £16m for him. He is a full international who has handled pretty much every challenge thrown at him.
They are pretty confident that he is going to be their RB solution for some time to come.
Whilst he is just in the door it seems fairly sensible if they want to manage him, manage fans expectations and manage his integration into the team.
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comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah even an FA Cup game which would have been a decent start for Patterson at Everton, Coleman got the nod.
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And what conclusion are you drawing from that?
Everton have been after Patterson for a year. They paid up to £16m for him. He is a full international who has handled pretty much every challenge thrown at him.
They are pretty confident that he is going to be their RB solution for some time to come.
Whilst he is just in the door it seems fairly sensible if they want to manage him, manage fans expectations and manage his integration into the team.
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they are just arguing for argements sake.
Im sure they all believe that Joelinton is better than Kyogo. Josh Sargent is better than Jota. Duffy is better than CCV and Starfelt. Kenny Mclean is better than macgregor.
Im sure That Odsonne Edouard isnt EPL level .......
but yeah none of the current players in Scotland would be good enough to play in EPL.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Just the conclusion that even our best young talent and even our best players Kyogo, Aribo etc.. might not just get into a first 11 down there. Its only an opinion no need to jump to the defence of Paterson I wasn't disparaging the boy, only giving an opinion.
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To be fair he didn't get in the first eleven up here much either.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
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Erm. He came to our league from the EPL. My point was about any of our current crop being taken by an EPL team as a direct replacement for one of their current players.
But hey let’s spin that to suit.
Anyway, I said I’d leave it so I will
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You’ve said no player in our league would replace any EPL player. So Duffy, who was out of favour at Brighton moved to our league and failed, so Celtic didn’t try to sign him. He then returned to Brighton, and has directly replaced their cb, and flourished as a star performer in the league.
So he’s not good enough for Celtic, yet no Celtic defender or any other defender in the league would be good enough to replace him at Brighton?
Some mental gymnastics that. Maybe they won’t, but it would be a mental take to say no SPFL player would be good enough to replace any EPL player. Which is the whole point of talking about the speculation.
Poor Ginger.
Just take it back, say sorry to the SPFL and we can move on.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 seconds ago
Poor Ginger.
Just take it back, say sorry to the SPFL and we can move on.
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some would say he is a clown, a fcuktit, a plank, a fud.
Id just say he ha made a total erse of his argument and he knows it
No La Liga player could replace anyone at Celtic because we are not currently looking and indeed haven't shopped there since being burnt with Miku and Lassad in 2012.
Good game this.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 40 minutes ago
Just the conclusion that even our best young talent and even our best players Kyogo, Aribo etc.. might not just get into a first 11 down there. Its only an opinion no need to jump to the defence of Paterson I wasn't disparaging the boy, only giving an opinion.
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And I was just wanting to clarify what that opinion was.
You seem to be saying that because he didnt start against Hull it shows he isnt good enough to get into Evertons first eleven.
I would say at best it is taking a slightly negative view of the whole situation. It is certainly ignoring all of the circumstances around Patterson - the fact he is just in the door.
Do you think they have followed Patterson for a year, paid Rangers a record fee for him then watched him in training for a couple of days and thought he wasnt up to it?
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posted on 12/1/22
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
I know.
It’s easily demonstrated by the way they are pursuing our players.
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Thats a different issue than them being good enough or not.
A team or group of teams not recognising quality isn't a new phenomenon. Example jumps out of Andy Robertson had all but Dundee United in the premier pass up signing him from Queen's Park. A third division team at the time didn't move for him that likely could have.
Using the Villa example, Jack Grealish only became a Premier league talent when villa got promoted?
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I don’t disagree.
I said that there isn’t a player who would be either taken by Villa and replace a current first team player.
The endurance is clear enough. Everton are paying up to £16m for a player who may make the grade there. I hope he does. The EPL teams can afford that without hardly batting an eyelid.
It would make sense for any of them to have a decent bid tabled for any of ours up here if they thought they’d get anywhere near a first team regular.
Yet…..
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Just because teams havent bid for players doesnt mean they are not good enough to play enough in the EPL.
There could be any number of reasons why that overly simplistic logic wouldnt stand up.
For example a team like Burnley would maybe love a player like Aribo but they might not have £10m+ to spend on a player and they might be realistic in knowing Aribo might not want to leave Rangers, give up a potential league title and playing in the latter stages of the EL for a relegation battle which could see him playing in the Championship next season.
If you are talking more mid table teams then again there loads of reasons - for example they may have a set budget, they may already have a decent number 10 creative type player and their priority might be their defence.
And then they might just not have made a bid YET.
Guys like Aribo, Morleos, Kent (?) I think are all entering the last 18 months of their deals. Their prices are probably at a peak right now.
If they wait until the end of the season to bid then their prices will come down.
To bid for a player a club has to think he is the right player at the right price at the right time and they have to think they can actually attract him to the club. Obviously the wages will be higher but on balance some players might want other things.
I think looking at it and saying that (as far as you know) there havent been any bids yet therefor the players arent good enough is vastly over simplistic IMO.
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It doesn’t really matter what the issues are; the bottom line is that EPL clubs like Villa don’t have the confidence to pay out money to anyone who will come in as a first team regular who will replace a current first team member.
And this in the time frame where Everton might end up paying up to £16m for a player who might eventually make it.
Sorry, but those clubs don’t believe that it’s worth their money. At least right now. Sure every now and again someone will make a bid for one of ours, but not as a direct replacement.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 24 minutes ago
Does anyone agree with Ginger?
That no SPFL player would get near this Villa side?
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Luiz
McGinn
Ramsay
Buendia
Ings
Watkins.
It's genuinely ludicrous to me to suggest we don't have a player in our league that is good enough to get near that side. Someone has bought into the EPL hype machine
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It’s not a court of public opinion man
Again I await the EPL sides including Villa making their next bid. I think they know what they are doing.
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Nobody agreeing with you
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Again. It’s not a court of public opinion. It’s facts.
Anyway, sod this. I’ve spent way too much time on it and I’m bored stupid. Give me a shout when an EPL club buys any of ours as a direct replacement for a first team player.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 24 minutes ago
Does anyone agree with Ginger?
That no SPFL player would get near this Villa side?
Martinez
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Luiz
McGinn
Ramsay
Buendia
Ings
Watkins.
It's genuinely ludicrous to me to suggest we don't have a player in our league that is good enough to get near that side. Someone has bought into the EPL hype machine
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It’s not a court of public opinion man
Again I await the EPL sides including Villa making their next bid. I think they know what they are doing.
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Nobody agreeing with you
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Again. It’s not a court of public opinion. It’s facts.
Anyway, sod this. I’ve spent way too much time on it and I’m bored stupid. Give me a shout when an EPL club buys any of ours as a direct replacement for a first team player.
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ItS FaCtS
posted on 12/1/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Miller - Bounce Game Champion (U9310)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
I know.
It’s easily demonstrated by the way they are pursuing our players.
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Thats a different issue than them being good enough or not.
A team or group of teams not recognising quality isn't a new phenomenon. Example jumps out of Andy Robertson had all but Dundee United in the premier pass up signing him from Queen's Park. A third division team at the time didn't move for him that likely could have.
Using the Villa example, Jack Grealish only became a Premier league talent when villa got promoted?
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I don’t disagree.
I said that there isn’t a player who would be either taken by Villa and replace a current first team player.
The endurance is clear enough. Everton are paying up to £16m for a player who may make the grade there. I hope he does. The EPL teams can afford that without hardly batting an eyelid.
It would make sense for any of them to have a decent bid tabled for any of ours up here if they thought they’d get anywhere near a first team regular.
Yet…..
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Just because teams havent bid for players doesnt mean they are not good enough to play enough in the EPL.
There could be any number of reasons why that overly simplistic logic wouldnt stand up.
For example a team like Burnley would maybe love a player like Aribo but they might not have £10m+ to spend on a player and they might be realistic in knowing Aribo might not want to leave Rangers, give up a potential league title and playing in the latter stages of the EL for a relegation battle which could see him playing in the Championship next season.
If you are talking more mid table teams then again there loads of reasons - for example they may have a set budget, they may already have a decent number 10 creative type player and their priority might be their defence.
And then they might just not have made a bid YET.
Guys like Aribo, Morleos, Kent (?) I think are all entering the last 18 months of their deals. Their prices are probably at a peak right now.
If they wait until the end of the season to bid then their prices will come down.
To bid for a player a club has to think he is the right player at the right price at the right time and they have to think they can actually attract him to the club. Obviously the wages will be higher but on balance some players might want other things.
I think looking at it and saying that (as far as you know) there havent been any bids yet therefor the players arent good enough is vastly over simplistic IMO.
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It doesn’t really matter what the issues are; the bottom line is that EPL clubs like Villa don’t have the confidence to pay out money to anyone who will come in as a first team regular who will replace a current first team member.
And this in the time frame where Everton might end up paying up to £16m for a player who might eventually make it.
Sorry, but those clubs don’t believe that it’s worth their money. At least right now. Sure every now and again someone will make a bid for one of ours, but not as a direct replacement.
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
posted on 12/1/22
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
posted on 12/1/22
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
posted on 12/1/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
posted on 12/1/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
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R£tard
Seriously?
Enough of you crawling around every post I make in trying to score little pathetic points. And then this. You are a one. Ta ta.
Grey line for you.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Of course the circumstances matter.
If they think Aribo for example is only slightly better or as good as the player they have currently who does a similar job then they are unlikely to bid the £10-15m it would take to get Aribo.
If Villa only have £50m to spend in this window and they can get a marginal improvement by spending £15m on Aribo and it means they have less money to spend on areas of the team where they could make a much bigger improvement with the £15m then it wouldnt make sense to buy Aribo.
It doesnt mean he isnt good enough and it doesnt mean he wouldnt get a game.
It just means he might not be the right player at the right time for the right money.
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Ginger has went full r£tard the past couple of days it would seem. quite a few examples of it !
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R£tard
Seriously?
Enough of you crawling around every post I make in trying to score little pathetic points. And then this. You are a one. Ta ta.
Grey line for you.
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aww wee snowflake....so you tell me to shut it, call me fktits, a fud.... I replay with one comment back and it "ye canny say that, bla bla bla" away you go ya greetin face double standard baw bag
posted on 12/1/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
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Erm. He came to our league from the EPL. My point was about any of our current crop being taken by an EPL team as a direct replacement for one of their current players.
But hey let’s spin that to suit.
Anyway, I said I’d leave it so I will
posted on 12/1/22
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posted on 12/1/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah even an FA Cup game which would have been a decent start for Patterson at Everton, Coleman got the nod.
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And what conclusion are you drawing from that?
Everton have been after Patterson for a year. They paid up to £16m for him. He is a full international who has handled pretty much every challenge thrown at him.
They are pretty confident that he is going to be their RB solution for some time to come.
Whilst he is just in the door it seems fairly sensible if they want to manage him, manage fans expectations and manage his integration into the team.
posted on 12/1/22
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posted on 12/1/22
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah even an FA Cup game which would have been a decent start for Patterson at Everton, Coleman got the nod.
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And what conclusion are you drawing from that?
Everton have been after Patterson for a year. They paid up to £16m for him. He is a full international who has handled pretty much every challenge thrown at him.
They are pretty confident that he is going to be their RB solution for some time to come.
Whilst he is just in the door it seems fairly sensible if they want to manage him, manage fans expectations and manage his integration into the team.
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they are just arguing for argements sake.
Im sure they all believe that Joelinton is better than Kyogo. Josh Sargent is better than Jota. Duffy is better than CCV and Starfelt. Kenny Mclean is better than macgregor.
Im sure That Odsonne Edouard isnt EPL level .......
but yeah none of the current players in Scotland would be good enough to play in EPL.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Just the conclusion that even our best young talent and even our best players Kyogo, Aribo etc.. might not just get into a first 11 down there. Its only an opinion no need to jump to the defence of Paterson I wasn't disparaging the boy, only giving an opinion.
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To be fair he didn't get in the first eleven up here much either.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
Duffy has 14 appearances for Brighton this season, but yeah no one in scotland is good enough to play at EPL level.
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He was in a team of the year so far I seen
Vastly overrated standard at the lower end. Even McKenna and Worrall getting lauded down there, and big money move talks to Prem
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Erm. He came to our league from the EPL. My point was about any of our current crop being taken by an EPL team as a direct replacement for one of their current players.
But hey let’s spin that to suit.
Anyway, I said I’d leave it so I will
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You’ve said no player in our league would replace any EPL player. So Duffy, who was out of favour at Brighton moved to our league and failed, so Celtic didn’t try to sign him. He then returned to Brighton, and has directly replaced their cb, and flourished as a star performer in the league.
So he’s not good enough for Celtic, yet no Celtic defender or any other defender in the league would be good enough to replace him at Brighton?
Some mental gymnastics that. Maybe they won’t, but it would be a mental take to say no SPFL player would be good enough to replace any EPL player. Which is the whole point of talking about the speculation.
posted on 12/1/22
Poor Ginger.
Just take it back, say sorry to the SPFL and we can move on.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 seconds ago
Poor Ginger.
Just take it back, say sorry to the SPFL and we can move on.
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some would say he is a clown, a fcuktit, a plank, a fud.
Id just say he ha made a total erse of his argument and he knows it
posted on 12/1/22
No La Liga player could replace anyone at Celtic because we are not currently looking and indeed haven't shopped there since being burnt with Miku and Lassad in 2012.
Good game this.
posted on 12/1/22
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 40 minutes ago
Just the conclusion that even our best young talent and even our best players Kyogo, Aribo etc.. might not just get into a first 11 down there. Its only an opinion no need to jump to the defence of Paterson I wasn't disparaging the boy, only giving an opinion.
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And I was just wanting to clarify what that opinion was.
You seem to be saying that because he didnt start against Hull it shows he isnt good enough to get into Evertons first eleven.
I would say at best it is taking a slightly negative view of the whole situation. It is certainly ignoring all of the circumstances around Patterson - the fact he is just in the door.
Do you think they have followed Patterson for a year, paid Rangers a record fee for him then watched him in training for a couple of days and thought he wasnt up to it?
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