Just here to say that my Klopp article is better than this cheap click-bait and I'm bitter in the certainty that it will attract much less attention.
Klopp has built a brilliant first 11, and benefts hugely from having the truly world class Salah, who he had to be convinced to sign over Julian Brandt.
I think whatever he does in the next 2 years, nobody would consider his time at Liverpool any thing other than a success.
RE: the OP, no I don't think I'd hold the trophy count against Klopp. He has entered the PL at a particularly competitive era, and even being competitive against a City side this financially dominant, stable and coached by Guardiola is a massive achievement. Ending LFC's title drought is a legacy in itself, let alone the CL, which wasn't a freak occurrence.
But more than that, what lingers in the memory isn't numbers of trophies. We remember great football and above all we remember when football does something that we hadn't seen before. The Dutch sides of the 70s are much more vividly ingrained in our footballing culture than the German and Argentinian sides that pipped them in successive WC finals. Klopp's Liverpool isn't on that scale of cultural phenomenon but it did introduce exhilarating counter-pressing to English football and I think generated the memories that will guarantee a sense of legacy.
Can i just add....we may well end up.with 2 or 3 trophies yet this season....arsenal thibk they have knocked uss out the cup...they havent....city may think the prem is settled..it isnt
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By that measure you make out the LFC team that finished second in 2019 is better than United's Treble team and the LFC team of say 1984?
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forget about that comparison, using points totals alone the leicester team of drinkwater, morgan et al was better than pool's treble winners of 84.
but we've seen this many times before, the desperation of pool fans to proclaim this city team as the best team ever - and they seem much more desperate to do so than city fans - is embarrassing, and driven by nothing but their desire to top trump united fans (we only have 1pl title, but this team would have won 13 at saf's expense, because points)
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Nobody is talking about the treble, or any competition outside the PL. So that's irrelevant.
City have been rubbish in Europe but domestically they are far better than United ever were under Fergie. End of story.
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You mean the manager that won it 3 seasons in a row on 3 occasions? Ok mate.
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posted on 14/1/22
Just here to say that my Klopp article is better than this cheap click-bait and I'm bitter in the certainty that it will attract much less attention.
posted on 14/1/22
Klopp has built a brilliant first 11, and benefts hugely from having the truly world class Salah, who he had to be convinced to sign over Julian Brandt.
I think whatever he does in the next 2 years, nobody would consider his time at Liverpool any thing other than a success.
posted on 14/1/22
RE: the OP, no I don't think I'd hold the trophy count against Klopp. He has entered the PL at a particularly competitive era, and even being competitive against a City side this financially dominant, stable and coached by Guardiola is a massive achievement. Ending LFC's title drought is a legacy in itself, let alone the CL, which wasn't a freak occurrence.
But more than that, what lingers in the memory isn't numbers of trophies. We remember great football and above all we remember when football does something that we hadn't seen before. The Dutch sides of the 70s are much more vividly ingrained in our footballing culture than the German and Argentinian sides that pipped them in successive WC finals. Klopp's Liverpool isn't on that scale of cultural phenomenon but it did introduce exhilarating counter-pressing to English football and I think generated the memories that will guarantee a sense of legacy.
posted on 14/1/22
Can i just add....we may well end up.with 2 or 3 trophies yet this season....arsenal thibk they have knocked uss out the cup...they havent....city may think the prem is settled..it isnt
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9
By that measure you make out the LFC team that finished second in 2019 is better than United's Treble team and the LFC team of say 1984?
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forget about that comparison, using points totals alone the leicester team of drinkwater, morgan et al was better than pool's treble winners of 84.
but we've seen this many times before, the desperation of pool fans to proclaim this city team as the best team ever - and they seem much more desperate to do so than city fans - is embarrassing, and driven by nothing but their desire to top trump united fans (we only have 1pl title, but this team would have won 13 at saf's expense, because points)
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Nobody is talking about the treble, or any competition outside the PL. So that's irrelevant.
City have been rubbish in Europe but domestically they are far better than United ever were under Fergie. End of story.
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You mean the manager that won it 3 seasons in a row on 3 occasions? Ok mate.
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When did this happen?
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