but id be really disappointed if Donny couldnt force his way into our starting line up.
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In who, Donny?
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
"It is the same situation [with Van de Beek]. I'm glad to have him in the squad. I had conversation with him two weeks ago and advised him to stay.
"He wants to play at the World Cup and [The Netherlands manager] Louis van Gaal told him to be a regular starter and he needs to play."
A bit salty from LVG.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
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Too sensible.
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
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Too sensible.
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Only downside is that we would potentially be helping Newcastle stay up. Id' imagine that there are a lot of PL teams that would like to see them go down and their progress to be hampered by a couple of seasons.
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
Oh yeah, we’d be losing all his valuable contributions to the team.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
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He doesnt need ro start to be worth keeping.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
Bit sad Donny will leave without a shot but Henderson is a chancer who won't be missed.
To think he'd be starting over DDG this season if not for Covid, my word the damage Ole was doing.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
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He doesnt need ro start to be worth keeping.
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He isn't going to prove his worth without stating in the PL. And his contributions so far this season could have been covered by a youth prospect.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
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Or use Donny more.
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
*Yes I know Pogba could return.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
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Or use Donny more.
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Well yeh, I already said twice if he isn't going to be starting then I'd loan him. Let me know if you need a picture drawing.
Sell Donny in the summer and go all out for Rice. Might be overpriced but he is certainly more of what we need than VDB.
Would improve our first 11 immediately.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
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If the ambition is midtable they're great, if it's top six they're ok squad players.
If the ambition is to win things they should be replaced immediately.
Using him more doesnt necessarily mean he has to start. Hed still be of more use if he got say, 30 mins per game.
comment by Keano's Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 1 minute ago
Sell Donny in the summer and go all out for Rice. Might be overpriced but he is certainly more of what we need than VDB.
Would improve our first 11 immediately.
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Id keep Donny but agree we should pay what it takes to get Rice.
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
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If the ambition is midtable they're great, if it's top six they're ok squad players.
If the ambition is to win things they should be replaced immediately.
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Bit of a leap between top 6 and winning stuff mate.
Both good enough squad players for a side with ambitions to win titles. Look at Liverpools 2nd string midfielders for comparison . Keita, Jones, Milner.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 51 minutes ago
Using him more doesnt necessarily mean he has to start. Hed still be of more use if he got say, 30 mins per game.
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To what end though? He's hard very little impact when he does come off the bench. If we need a goal, he isn't the answer. And if we are ahead and trying to close a game out, he isn't the answer.
What he really needs is regular starts in the PL to try and get up to speed and prove his worth. He is never going to show anything coming off the bench like he has been for the last year and a half. Time to do something different.
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posted on 14/1/22
but id be really disappointed if Donny couldnt force his way into our starting line up.
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In who, Donny?
posted on 14/1/22
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
posted on 14/1/22
"It is the same situation [with Van de Beek]. I'm glad to have him in the squad. I had conversation with him two weeks ago and advised him to stay.
"He wants to play at the World Cup and [The Netherlands manager] Louis van Gaal told him to be a regular starter and he needs to play."
A bit salty from LVG.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
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Too sensible.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Donny isn't going to be starting games then we should be sending him on loan to Newcastle. Let him get some game time and hopefully show us what he can do in the PL. By the time his loan is up we will have a clearer idea of what is happening with Pogba and whether or not Donny can perform in the PL, or whether we need to move him on.
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Too sensible.
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Only downside is that we would potentially be helping Newcastle stay up. Id' imagine that there are a lot of PL teams that would like to see them go down and their progress to be hampered by a couple of seasons.
posted on 14/1/22
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
posted on 14/1/22
Oh yeah, we’d be losing all his valuable contributions to the team.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
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He doesnt need ro start to be worth keeping.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
posted on 14/1/22
Bit sad Donny will leave without a shot but Henderson is a chancer who won't be missed.
To think he'd be starting over DDG this season if not for Covid, my word the damage Ole was doing.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 seconds ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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You didn't really read what I posted did you? I said, if he isn't going to be starting games. I'd personally keep him and play the lad. But so far he has played 67 minutes in the PL and 379 in all competitions. If that isn't going to increase for the rest of the season, I'd much rather send him out on loan where he will get regular game time in the league.
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He doesnt need ro start to be worth keeping.
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He isn't going to prove his worth without stating in the PL. And his contributions so far this season could have been covered by a youth prospect.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
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Or use Donny more.
posted on 14/1/22
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
*Yes I know Pogba could return.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
How on earth do people think we have squad strong enough that we can afford to let a player like Van De Beek leave on loan to another prem side?
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Because VDB is the worst player in the squad.
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Even if that were correct (it isnt) we stull couldnt afford to let a midfielder leave
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He's played 4 games worth of football. Just play Hannibal or Shoretire or someone.
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Or use Donny more.
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Well yeh, I already said twice if he isn't going to be starting then I'd loan him. Let me know if you need a picture drawing.
posted on 14/1/22
Sell Donny in the summer and go all out for Rice. Might be overpriced but he is certainly more of what we need than VDB.
Would improve our first 11 immediately.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
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If the ambition is midtable they're great, if it's top six they're ok squad players.
If the ambition is to win things they should be replaced immediately.
posted on 14/1/22
Using him more doesnt necessarily mean he has to start. Hed still be of more use if he got say, 30 mins per game.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Keano's Magic Hat (U10101)
posted 1 minute ago
Sell Donny in the summer and go all out for Rice. Might be overpriced but he is certainly more of what we need than VDB.
Would improve our first 11 immediately.
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Id keep Donny but agree we should pay what it takes to get Rice.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Tabclear1992 (U22779)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 seconds ago
If Donny does goes I hope we at least get another body in for midfield. Someone who plays deeper as I don't think we can rely on Fred, McT and Matic for the rest of the season.
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The first two can't be relied on atall.
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Neither miss many games through injury. I also rate both individually. Just not as a pairing.
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If the ambition is midtable they're great, if it's top six they're ok squad players.
If the ambition is to win things they should be replaced immediately.
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Bit of a leap between top 6 and winning stuff mate.
Both good enough squad players for a side with ambitions to win titles. Look at Liverpools 2nd string midfielders for comparison . Keita, Jones, Milner.
posted on 14/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 51 minutes ago
Using him more doesnt necessarily mean he has to start. Hed still be of more use if he got say, 30 mins per game.
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To what end though? He's hard very little impact when he does come off the bench. If we need a goal, he isn't the answer. And if we are ahead and trying to close a game out, he isn't the answer.
What he really needs is regular starts in the PL to try and get up to speed and prove his worth. He is never going to show anything coming off the bench like he has been for the last year and a half. Time to do something different.
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