Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 42 seconds ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Be careful. The chairman of his fan club will all over this comment.
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 42 seconds ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Be careful. The chairman of his fan club will all over this comment.
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So he should. It's a ridiculously stupid comment
Used to be a fan
Not anymore
Like most of his teammates in recent times. Not lived up to the hype
Clean slate with poch or ten using a season or two to get the club at least competing again
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 17 seconds ago
and for Mata did any United fan actually want him to sign another contract
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not particularly relevant, but yes, there were quite a few who said that they were happy because he would be a good influence on the young players, and boost the morale of the squad.
£5m well spent i think we can all agree.
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well it is relevant compared to Pogbas situation.... we all want Pogba to be happy at United and be as good as these next few best years of his carreer should be for United regardles of the (allegedly) ridiculous contract that United are offereing which he is still not signing yet. Mata is past it and should have really left last summer .I think we can all agree.
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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He seems to be an easy target of late. Not saying he doesn't deserve stick for his agents spouting guff etc but I was having a discussion with a guy who never wanted Pogba back at the club and isn't his biggest fan say a few things which I couldn't disagree with, regards to how it's wrong to blame Pogba.
I did try and write some of it on a different thread on here but people qownt hear it or simply overlook it so don't bother anymore
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 49 minutes ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Completely agree as another fan from another club
Bloke sums up what has gone wrong with United since Fergie left
Would Fergie have him in his squad let alone team? Nope
The guy has so much ability it’s scary but he has no ambition
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 2 minutes ago
he has no ambition
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he left united at 19 to get more playing time, and became an almost immediate fixture in the juve team, where he won serie a 4 years on the spin, appearing in the team of the season in 3 of those years.
but yeah, no ambition.
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 49 minutes ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Completely agree as another fan from another club
Bloke sums up what has gone wrong with United since Fergie left
Would Fergie have him in his squad let alone team? Nope
The guy has so much ability it’s scary but he has no ambition
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Fergie who tried everything to keep him?
Fergie who always said this lad has tremendous talent but need someone to show him the way?
Good news. We are a better team when he plays.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
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Who to say pogba won’t stay anyway?
Dream team.
Ronasaurus and Carlton in tandem 🥷🏾
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
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I’ve nothing against Pogba and have always wanted to see him do well, especially for us - but third best player in the PL in his first season? Really?
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
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I’ve nothing against Pogba and have always wanted to see him do well, especially for us - but third best player in the PL in his first season? Really?
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tbf, when people are suggesting jorginho - who pogba consistently outperforms at international tournaments - for the ballon d'or, it's not that outrageous.
the thing about pogba is that he's one of the best progressors of a ball in european football (basically progressive passes + dribbles) - i saw this today: https://twitter.com/utdarena/status/1483122534224699394/photo/1 - but also manages to be highly productive in terms of goals and assists.
stat 1 for today - across the 17/18 and 18/19 seasons he managed a non-penalty goal/assist every 166 minutes, only slightly worse than fernandes has managed since the beginning of last season, and all from midfield.
stat 2 - per 90 minutes, pl only, he has more non-penalty goals and assists than any of gerrard, lampard, or yaya toure (true story).
somewhat curiously his first season back was his least productive of his first 3 seasons, but also the one when our forwards (eg zlatan) were somewhat wasteful. but he still managed 5 goals and 4 assists, despite being paired in a midfield two with fellaini for his first 4 matches. yeah, really.
3rd definitely strikes even me as a bit lofty - ahead of kane, who managed 24 goals with 7 assists (!) - but i refer to whoscored not because it is infalliable, but because it is at least objective, and frankly gives a much better idea of pogba's quality than the deranged and vitriolic ramblings of some on here.
https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/6335/Stages/13796/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2016-2017
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Who to say pogba won’t stay anyway?
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Mino Raiola ?
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
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now the ashes is done i thought you might need something to entertain you, and always happy to oblige
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
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now the ashes is done i thought you might need something to entertain you, and always happy to oblige
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😎
First of all, good forum. Been coming on here for a while reading a fair few threads... before finally deciding to post.
On Pogba I rarely look at him as an individual, but on how much the team and particular players around him improve with him playing.
There was a period a year ago when he came back from injury and we went on a good run of results for about 13/14 league games back in Jan/Feb. What I saw in those games was the link up play between him and Bruno which was brilliant. And even though we were still leaking goals, the two of them played well together, brought out the best in each other and carried the creativity going forward. It wasn't so much that Pogba was assisting or scoring, it was more about how we moved the ball forward and the space he and Bruno created for each other and those around them. The link up play, reading each other's movement was very good.
Sod's law of course he was injured again by mid-Feb and I don't think they quite rekindled that partnership when he returned a couple of months later.
I do feel the same degree of anticipation though, with him, Bruno and Ronaldo this time. Add Greenwood, Cavani, and dare I say Sancho to the mix and why not look forward to his return? There's a missing piece in that midfield. Pogba may not be the one to fill it in the long run, but as he's shown last year in that period I mentioned, he's more than capable of making a difference in terms of our creativity and the performance of certain key players around him.
In talks with PSG now according to news outlets.
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posted on 17/1/22
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 42 seconds ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Be careful. The chairman of his fan club will all over this comment.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 42 seconds ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Be careful. The chairman of his fan club will all over this comment.
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So he should. It's a ridiculously stupid comment
posted on 17/1/22
Used to be a fan
Not anymore
Like most of his teammates in recent times. Not lived up to the hype
Clean slate with poch or ten using a season or two to get the club at least competing again
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 17 seconds ago
and for Mata did any United fan actually want him to sign another contract
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not particularly relevant, but yes, there were quite a few who said that they were happy because he would be a good influence on the young players, and boost the morale of the squad.
£5m well spent i think we can all agree.
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well it is relevant compared to Pogbas situation.... we all want Pogba to be happy at United and be as good as these next few best years of his carreer should be for United regardles of the (allegedly) ridiculous contract that United are offereing which he is still not signing yet. Mata is past it and should have really left last summer .I think we can all agree.
posted on 17/1/22
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 5 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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He seems to be an easy target of late. Not saying he doesn't deserve stick for his agents spouting guff etc but I was having a discussion with a guy who never wanted Pogba back at the club and isn't his biggest fan say a few things which I couldn't disagree with, regards to how it's wrong to blame Pogba.
I did try and write some of it on a different thread on here but people qownt hear it or simply overlook it so don't bother anymore
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 49 minutes ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Completely agree as another fan from another club
Bloke sums up what has gone wrong with United since Fergie left
Would Fergie have him in his squad let alone team? Nope
The guy has so much ability it’s scary but he has no ambition
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 2 minutes ago
he has no ambition
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he left united at 19 to get more playing time, and became an almost immediate fixture in the juve team, where he won serie a 4 years on the spin, appearing in the team of the season in 3 of those years.
but yeah, no ambition.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Bumble (U6465)
posted 49 minutes ago
Laziest most overhyped player I've ever seen. I thought this Ralph bloke wanted a good work rate and press from Utd. Pogba just dwaldles around the pitch with his mind on what silly haircut he can get next to put on Instagram. The guy is everything wrong at Utd, especially how he's put a bad impression on the younger players.
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Completely agree as another fan from another club
Bloke sums up what has gone wrong with United since Fergie left
Would Fergie have him in his squad let alone team? Nope
The guy has so much ability it’s scary but he has no ambition
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Fergie who tried everything to keep him?
Fergie who always said this lad has tremendous talent but need someone to show him the way?
posted on 17/1/22
Good news. We are a better team when he plays.
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
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posted on 17/1/22
Who to say pogba won’t stay anyway?
posted on 17/1/22
Dream team.
Ronasaurus and Carlton in tandem 🥷🏾
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its easy to blame him but the whole team, squad, various managers, chairmen, owners, have ALL been pretty chit since Fergie left.
The expectation for him to take you lot to past highs was way too much imo, it's bigger than 1 player.
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sad when an opposition fan speaks more sense on the matter than many united fans.
in his first 3 seasons back he was, according to whoscored, the 3rd, 9th, and 11th best player in the pl - not best united player, not best midfielder, but best player. in 2 of those 3 seasons he was the highest ranked midfielder in the pl, and in all 3 he was united's highest ranked player (as he is this season, so 4 seasons out of 6 so far). he was also named player of the tournament when we won the ropey league, the only european trophy we have won in the past decade, and one of only 5 in our history.
yet because he hasn't "single-handedly dragged" us to a major trophy, people just get angry, all the time.
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I’ve nothing against Pogba and have always wanted to see him do well, especially for us - but third best player in the PL in his first season? Really?
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 11 minutes ago
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I’ve nothing against Pogba and have always wanted to see him do well, especially for us - but third best player in the PL in his first season? Really?
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tbf, when people are suggesting jorginho - who pogba consistently outperforms at international tournaments - for the ballon d'or, it's not that outrageous.
the thing about pogba is that he's one of the best progressors of a ball in european football (basically progressive passes + dribbles) - i saw this today: https://twitter.com/utdarena/status/1483122534224699394/photo/1 - but also manages to be highly productive in terms of goals and assists.
stat 1 for today - across the 17/18 and 18/19 seasons he managed a non-penalty goal/assist every 166 minutes, only slightly worse than fernandes has managed since the beginning of last season, and all from midfield.
stat 2 - per 90 minutes, pl only, he has more non-penalty goals and assists than any of gerrard, lampard, or yaya toure (true story).
somewhat curiously his first season back was his least productive of his first 3 seasons, but also the one when our forwards (eg zlatan) were somewhat wasteful. but he still managed 5 goals and 4 assists, despite being paired in a midfield two with fellaini for his first 4 matches. yeah, really.
3rd definitely strikes even me as a bit lofty - ahead of kane, who managed 24 goals with 7 assists (!) - but i refer to whoscored not because it is infalliable, but because it is at least objective, and frankly gives a much better idea of pogba's quality than the deranged and vitriolic ramblings of some on here.
https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/6335/Stages/13796/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2016-2017
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Who to say pogba won’t stay anyway?
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Mino Raiola ?
posted on 17/1/22
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
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now the ashes is done i thought you might need something to entertain you, and always happy to oblige
posted on 17/1/22
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think just for the lolz once a week someone should just light the fuse on Don and mention Pogba. Makes for good reading 🍿
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now the ashes is done i thought you might need something to entertain you, and always happy to oblige
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😎
posted on 18/1/22
First of all, good forum. Been coming on here for a while reading a fair few threads... before finally deciding to post.
On Pogba I rarely look at him as an individual, but on how much the team and particular players around him improve with him playing.
There was a period a year ago when he came back from injury and we went on a good run of results for about 13/14 league games back in Jan/Feb. What I saw in those games was the link up play between him and Bruno which was brilliant. And even though we were still leaking goals, the two of them played well together, brought out the best in each other and carried the creativity going forward. It wasn't so much that Pogba was assisting or scoring, it was more about how we moved the ball forward and the space he and Bruno created for each other and those around them. The link up play, reading each other's movement was very good.
Sod's law of course he was injured again by mid-Feb and I don't think they quite rekindled that partnership when he returned a couple of months later.
I do feel the same degree of anticipation though, with him, Bruno and Ronaldo this time. Add Greenwood, Cavani, and dare I say Sancho to the mix and why not look forward to his return? There's a missing piece in that midfield. Pogba may not be the one to fill it in the long run, but as he's shown last year in that period I mentioned, he's more than capable of making a difference in terms of our creativity and the performance of certain key players around him.
posted on 18/1/22
In talks with PSG now according to news outlets.
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