Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 minutes ago
Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
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I think Rice is over rated way over rated for the west ham 200m tag and very overrated at 100m
I think Fred is a great player and under rated.
I think DDG is a superb on the line keeper but not controlling if his area.
I think Dalot is good attacking but not as good defensive but is young and can improve. I also think how we played (constantly under the kosh) was why AWB maybe got more games.
I think Shaw could be a good player as he has shown but he isn't consistent and can be lazy.
I like rice but there is no doubt he is over rated at those prices.
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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Maguire was never worth what we paid. Even Leicester fans warned us of that. And it's also the reason we need to be careful if buying another big money (big wages) player who we may get stuck with
Chilwell was around 45m no?
Grealish was not worth 100m either. A big money signing who isn't pulling up trees so we will see what the future holds. Then again City can afford to make these mistakes. They'll just buy a n other if need be. We have been struggling for years.
Asni said to you before on another thread. I like rice but I'm not sure he is what we currently need (with what we need in total) and for me simply isnt worth the fee. I also don't think his performances for WHU are as great as being written. But that's just my opinion
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Yep, whether he's suited to an attacking team is another question, as he plays in defensive teams for both club and country.
But he seems to be this summer's must-have, so some fans aren't analysing this properly.
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posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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This!!!
The success rate is woeful too. You all are arguing against data.
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posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
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I hope this is a wum account
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posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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He is far more than a decent player, despite not having an exotic surname.
Id obviously like us to sign him for as little as possible.
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posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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Maguire was never worth what we paid. Even Leicester fans warned us of that. And it's also the reason we need to be careful if buying another big money (big wages) player who we may get stuck with
Chilwell was around 45m no?
Grealish was not worth 100m either. A big money signing who isn't pulling up trees so we will see what the future holds. Then again City can afford to make these mistakes. They'll just buy a n other if need be. We have been struggling for years.
Asni said to you before on another thread. I like rice but I'm not sure he is what we currently need (with what we need in total) and for me simply isnt worth the fee. I also don't think his performances for WHU are as great as being written. But that's just my opinion
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Im saying, the going rate for top English players means that Rice would probably valued at £100m, and wed struggle to justify paying much less.
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posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
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posted 57 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
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posted 57 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 57 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 57 minutes ago
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
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He isn't even close. I have seen his stats compared with Mct and they are similar. Rice does have slightly better but in more games. What's damning is that Scott has about half his passes going forwards and rice has about two thirds not.
Rice is really good in the WHU system. Where even yesterday he basically sat in 2 banks of 4. We don't play that way (or defensive like England) so his skills will not be as suitable to us. No different to 3 years of good play by Shneiderlin in Leicester system before we bought him and he disappeared since.
For a 100m we should be looking at Kante and cassimiro levels not Rice.
Even Tchuameni at around 60m is a better signing for us as we play.
In fact oor play would suit Phillips more currently than rice and he isn't as good as rice.
Bissouma seems to be a lot more underrated.
And at a fraction of the price.
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
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Disagree. I don’t see him getting much better than he is now. I certainly wouldn’t pay more than 50-60m .
He'll be another Maguire. Overpraised by the media, bought for double his value and then slammed on here over and over again. Then we see the likes of Liverpool and City buying better foreign talent for less.
By the way, I was against signing Maguire due to the cost and his limitations. Overall, he had improved our defence, but for the cost has he been worth it? We could have gotten Dias the same year we bought him for less.
Rice is perfect for West Ham and England under Southgate but the change he'd have to make to play for United will show up his limitations like it has with Maguire and AWB. If McTominay was at West Ham and chose England, he'd be praised a lot more in the media and we'd be linked with him for a high fee.
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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£200m ? It would be £100m max, and again, whonare these elite midfielders we could get?
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posted 57 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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£200m ? It would be £100m max, and again, whonare these elite midfielders we could get?
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He is touted for around 120m on one index I saw and amoyes I think mentioned 200m. Even if I'm wrong about the 200m and it is 100m then that is too much.
He isn't elite so isn't worth 100m. 100m is what is being quoted as what it would take.
I've already said for that money we should be looking at likes of Cassimiro etc.
Even Tchuameni is priced at 40-60m and he is more what we need than rice who is good in pretty much a defensive set up.
There are others who are much better than rice that 100m would tempt.
So Rice isnt elite, yet you can only name a 30 year old Brazilian who is unlikely to leave Real for us, or a French kid from Ligue 1. Gotcha.
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So Rice isnt elite, yet you can only name a 30 year old Brazilian who is unlikely to leave Real for us, or a French kid from Ligue 1. Gotcha.
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Rice isn't elite. Don't even get the discussion on this point.
You can throw many names into the hat for dmf. Not least Kante, Kessie, fabinho, rodri, de jong... And even then I would argue 100m figure
What you seem to be not taking in is that no one is saying Rice is chit. Just that he isn't worth 100m. And he isnt
Kante, Fabinho, Rodri arent available.
Kessie, meh. De Jong, Meh.
Very few players are worth their transfer fee, however the market is the market.
The fact you cant name 5-10 better midfielders that wed have a chance of getting says everything.
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Rice underrated?
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posted on 23/1/22
Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 50 minutes ago
Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
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I think Rice is over rated way over rated for the west ham 200m tag and very overrated at 100m
I think Fred is a great player and under rated.
I think DDG is a superb on the line keeper but not controlling if his area.
I think Dalot is good attacking but not as good defensive but is young and can improve. I also think how we played (constantly under the kosh) was why AWB maybe got more games.
I think Shaw could be a good player as he has shown but he isn't consistent and can be lazy.
I like rice but there is no doubt he is over rated at those prices.
posted on 23/1/22
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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Maguire was never worth what we paid. Even Leicester fans warned us of that. And it's also the reason we need to be careful if buying another big money (big wages) player who we may get stuck with
Chilwell was around 45m no?
Grealish was not worth 100m either. A big money signing who isn't pulling up trees so we will see what the future holds. Then again City can afford to make these mistakes. They'll just buy a n other if need be. We have been struggling for years.
Asni said to you before on another thread. I like rice but I'm not sure he is what we currently need (with what we need in total) and for me simply isnt worth the fee. I also don't think his performances for WHU are as great as being written. But that's just my opinion
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Yep, whether he's suited to an attacking team is another question, as he plays in defensive teams for both club and country.
But he seems to be this summer's must-have, so some fans aren't analysing this properly.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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This!!!
The success rate is woeful too. You all are arguing against data.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
Those calling Rice overrated are probably the same ones that wrote off DDG, Shaw, Dalot, and Fred.
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I hope this is a wum account
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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He is far more than a decent player, despite not having an exotic surname.
Id obviously like us to sign him for as little as possible.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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Maguire was never worth what we paid. Even Leicester fans warned us of that. And it's also the reason we need to be careful if buying another big money (big wages) player who we may get stuck with
Chilwell was around 45m no?
Grealish was not worth 100m either. A big money signing who isn't pulling up trees so we will see what the future holds. Then again City can afford to make these mistakes. They'll just buy a n other if need be. We have been struggling for years.
Asni said to you before on another thread. I like rice but I'm not sure he is what we currently need (with what we need in total) and for me simply isnt worth the fee. I also don't think his performances for WHU are as great as being written. But that's just my opinion
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Im saying, the going rate for top English players means that Rice would probably valued at £100m, and wed struggle to justify paying much less.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
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For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
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He isn't even close. I have seen his stats compared with Mct and they are similar. Rice does have slightly better but in more games. What's damning is that Scott has about half his passes going forwards and rice has about two thirds not.
Rice is really good in the WHU system. Where even yesterday he basically sat in 2 banks of 4. We don't play that way (or defensive like England) so his skills will not be as suitable to us. No different to 3 years of good play by Shneiderlin in Leicester system before we bought him and he disappeared since.
For a 100m we should be looking at Kante and cassimiro levels not Rice.
Even Tchuameni at around 60m is a better signing for us as we play.
In fact oor play would suit Phillips more currently than rice and he isn't as good as rice.
posted on 23/1/22
Bissouma seems to be a lot more underrated.
And at a fraction of the price.
posted on 23/1/22
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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He’s very much on the way to bring an elite midfielder who could get into any side
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Disagree. I don’t see him getting much better than he is now. I certainly wouldn’t pay more than 50-60m .
posted on 24/1/22
He'll be another Maguire. Overpraised by the media, bought for double his value and then slammed on here over and over again. Then we see the likes of Liverpool and City buying better foreign talent for less.
posted on 24/1/22
By the way, I was against signing Maguire due to the cost and his limitations. Overall, he had improved our defence, but for the cost has he been worth it? We could have gotten Dias the same year we bought him for less.
Rice is perfect for West Ham and England under Southgate but the change he'd have to make to play for United will show up his limitations like it has with Maguire and AWB. If McTominay was at West Ham and chose England, he'd be praised a lot more in the media and we'd be linked with him for a high fee.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 12 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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£200m ? It would be £100m max, and again, whonare these elite midfielders we could get?
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 12 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Given the fees for Maguire, Grealish, White, Chilwell, i don't think £100m woukd be a stretch for Rice
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OFC you don't
that is why you are posting this nonsense
but you are not alone there are many fans like you who believe a decent player is worth 100 million because other decent players that have not justified their stupid prices.
I just had a look at the top 10 transfers and only VVD can be deemed an unquestionable success. The moral is throwing stupid money because sky and the guardian says so is usually not the solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For that money you should be looking at the world best.
Rice just isn't that for me. He is s good player in a side that play a certain way. When WHU okay tight and compact he does really well and holds things together very well. But any change from that and he quickly fades. We don't play tight and compact so in essence you're bringing in someone who can't play that role.
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Pretty much this. He’s just not as good as made out. A good player but world elite, no.
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Who are these world elite midfielders that we should go for over Rice that wed have ANY chance of getting?
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Rice isn't elite was the point.
But if we have 100-200m to throw at rice then we should be able to tempt most players. Rice shouldn't be one of them for that price
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£200m ? It would be £100m max, and again, whonare these elite midfielders we could get?
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He is touted for around 120m on one index I saw and amoyes I think mentioned 200m. Even if I'm wrong about the 200m and it is 100m then that is too much.
He isn't elite so isn't worth 100m. 100m is what is being quoted as what it would take.
I've already said for that money we should be looking at likes of Cassimiro etc.
Even Tchuameni is priced at 40-60m and he is more what we need than rice who is good in pretty much a defensive set up.
There are others who are much better than rice that 100m would tempt.
posted on 24/1/22
So Rice isnt elite, yet you can only name a 30 year old Brazilian who is unlikely to leave Real for us, or a French kid from Ligue 1. Gotcha.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
So Rice isnt elite, yet you can only name a 30 year old Brazilian who is unlikely to leave Real for us, or a French kid from Ligue 1. Gotcha.
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Rice isn't elite. Don't even get the discussion on this point.
You can throw many names into the hat for dmf. Not least Kante, Kessie, fabinho, rodri, de jong... And even then I would argue 100m figure
What you seem to be not taking in is that no one is saying Rice is chit. Just that he isn't worth 100m. And he isnt
posted on 24/1/22
Kante, Fabinho, Rodri arent available.
Kessie, meh. De Jong, Meh.
Very few players are worth their transfer fee, however the market is the market.
The fact you cant name 5-10 better midfielders that wed have a chance of getting says everything.
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