This is just an overreaction. We will get fourth and kick on from there. Varane hasn’t been terrible either. What are you on about?
Calm down… this is all knee jerk and when we get fourth things will be more positive all round.
The only way to fix this is for the new manager to absolutely clean house this summer when he comes in.
Nobody in this current squad should be untouchable.
….
No that isn’t the way to fix it. Get rid of a few players, yes. Pogba will be gone and so will three or four others.
All we need is a manager who will stop playing two donkeys in midfield.
Not sure why you have put Varane in the firing line. He’s been our best CB, not hard to do granted. But not easy to look good amongst this shower of chit
Somebody needs to breathalyze or drug test Telles after his performance
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not sure why you have put Varane in the firing line. He’s been our best CB, not hard to do granted. But not easy to look good amongst this shower of chit
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Don't get it either. Put VVD in his place and he wouldn't know what's hit him with some of these players ahead of him.
Mctominay has his uses but playing as a holding Midfielder has never been one of them. No idea how he keeps getting picked there.
Fred deserves his place in midfield. Not often I disagree with VC but I do on this.
Just a nothingness in Old Trafford today. They were much better than us. Better players with the right attitude and they believed they could win. Fred was good and showed he cared and was working and trying. DDG also made a couple of good saves but the rest are all hopeless.
How this team has regressed from the start of this season up to Ole's sacking and then further down the chitter to where we are now. It can only get worse before it gets better. And what is the point of Ralf? Get rid now and until the new manager comes and let the players sort it out between them.... or get Carrick back to pick a team each week till the end of the season.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 27 minutes ago
Fred deserves his place in midfield. Not often I disagree with VC but I do on this.
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It was a little harsh on Fred to be fair. McTomimay is one of the worst players I have seen at United though.
Fred has surprised everyone this season, he's the only one who can hold his head up. The rest have been a disgrace to the shirt.
We're playing like an incoherent team lacking in any kind of footballing identity, which is exactly what we've seen under successive managers (with the exception of LvG).
The performances are very middling and lack intensity. We've seen moments in the past and we've seen individual players hit purple patches here and there but by and large not a lot seems to have changed on the pitch.
It's going to take some really bold decisions at all levels of the club to turn the ship around and it won't be a quick fix. A top manager would be a start but we seem to have so many issues with the playing personnel that it's hard to see things changing any time soon.
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf?
posted 16 minutes ago
Just a nothingness in Old Trafford today. They were much better than us. Better players with the right attitude and they believed they could win. Fred was good and showed he cared and was working and trying. DDG also made a couple of good saves but the rest are all hopeless.
How this team has regressed from the start of this season up to Ole's sacking and then further down the chitter to where we are now. It can only get worse before it gets better. And what is the point of Ralf? Get rid now and until the new manager comes and let the players sort it out between them.... or get Carrick back to pick a team each week till the end of the season.
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Only 8 games left so why bother sacking Ralf now?
We are a typically reactive organisation with inept owners and even more clueless people running the place. If Ten Hag is the answer then why not get him in sooner rather than have an interim manager who has not managed since 2019 let alone manage a top side in his career?
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
This whole team should be sold
…….
Not really. When Tuchel came in at Chelsea did he get rid of all the players who were performing, like ours are now, for Lampard.
All it will take is someone to come in who knows what the hell he is doing and tweak a few things and sort the under performers out.
comment by Salam Reds (U22803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
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I apologise. I posted it on Robb's and thought it is more appropriate here. I hope I have not offended you.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salam Reds (U22803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
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I apologise. I posted it on Robb's and thought it is more appropriate here. I hope I have not offended you.
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We need Fellaini back 🥳
Just getting in someone like Ten Hag would solve nothing, we must also ensure as a club we back him in the market and get all his targets. Realistic targets to boot!
In the past we have failed as a club getting the managerial appts right but also getting in sub standard players at over inflated prices, a sign of sheer desperation.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
This whole team should be sold
…….
Not really. When Tuchel came in at Chelsea did he get rid of all the players who were performing, like ours are now, for Lampard.
All it will take is someone to come in who knows what the hell he is doing and tweak a few things and sort the under performers out.
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Bar a Guardiola or Klopp VC, I genuinely believe we have a rotten set of players. Players the calibre of Luke Shaw now have the audacity to go on England duty throwing shade at Manchester United. I will keep the young boy Elanga, Sancho, Varane and Fred (I know goes against sell all) and go from there
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
Was at the game today and never known such utter rejection of the bunch of crap representing our great Club from the fans around as today, gutless, pathetic and embarrassing, nothing more to say
Your team looked so dead today, looked so stark considering Leicester weren’t much better. The atmosphere at the ground was also terrible. But the players do nothing to help that, so many sideways passing from your defence, can’t sustain pressure and a lot of your players appear as if they mostly hate each other, no cohesion at all. Looks like you really do need a big rebuild, at least 70% of your team need shipping out and replaced. Going to need a manager and board with a collective drive to get that right though
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
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He's older than Pep by the way. Hardly fledgling.
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
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He's older than Pep by the way. Hardly fledgling.
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Fledgling at the very top leagues for sure as the main man, so to speak.
I think Ten Hag was 2nd in command at Bayern under Pep?
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posted on 2/4/22
This is just an overreaction. We will get fourth and kick on from there. Varane hasn’t been terrible either. What are you on about?
Calm down… this is all knee jerk and when we get fourth things will be more positive all round.
posted on 2/4/22
The only way to fix this is for the new manager to absolutely clean house this summer when he comes in.
Nobody in this current squad should be untouchable.
….
No that isn’t the way to fix it. Get rid of a few players, yes. Pogba will be gone and so will three or four others.
All we need is a manager who will stop playing two donkeys in midfield.
posted on 2/4/22
Won't get 4th
posted on 2/4/22
Not sure why you have put Varane in the firing line. He’s been our best CB, not hard to do granted. But not easy to look good amongst this shower of chit
posted on 2/4/22
Somebody needs to breathalyze or drug test Telles after his performance
posted on 2/4/22
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not sure why you have put Varane in the firing line. He’s been our best CB, not hard to do granted. But not easy to look good amongst this shower of chit
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Don't get it either. Put VVD in his place and he wouldn't know what's hit him with some of these players ahead of him.
Mctominay has his uses but playing as a holding Midfielder has never been one of them. No idea how he keeps getting picked there.
posted on 2/4/22
Fred deserves his place in midfield. Not often I disagree with VC but I do on this.
posted on 2/4/22
Just a nothingness in Old Trafford today. They were much better than us. Better players with the right attitude and they believed they could win. Fred was good and showed he cared and was working and trying. DDG also made a couple of good saves but the rest are all hopeless.
How this team has regressed from the start of this season up to Ole's sacking and then further down the chitter to where we are now. It can only get worse before it gets better. And what is the point of Ralf? Get rid now and until the new manager comes and let the players sort it out between them.... or get Carrick back to pick a team each week till the end of the season.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 27 minutes ago
Fred deserves his place in midfield. Not often I disagree with VC but I do on this.
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It was a little harsh on Fred to be fair. McTomimay is one of the worst players I have seen at United though.
posted on 2/4/22
Fred has surprised everyone this season, he's the only one who can hold his head up. The rest have been a disgrace to the shirt.
posted on 2/4/22
We're playing like an incoherent team lacking in any kind of footballing identity, which is exactly what we've seen under successive managers (with the exception of LvG).
The performances are very middling and lack intensity. We've seen moments in the past and we've seen individual players hit purple patches here and there but by and large not a lot seems to have changed on the pitch.
It's going to take some really bold decisions at all levels of the club to turn the ship around and it won't be a quick fix. A top manager would be a start but we seem to have so many issues with the playing personnel that it's hard to see things changing any time soon.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf?
posted 16 minutes ago
Just a nothingness in Old Trafford today. They were much better than us. Better players with the right attitude and they believed they could win. Fred was good and showed he cared and was working and trying. DDG also made a couple of good saves but the rest are all hopeless.
How this team has regressed from the start of this season up to Ole's sacking and then further down the chitter to where we are now. It can only get worse before it gets better. And what is the point of Ralf? Get rid now and until the new manager comes and let the players sort it out between them.... or get Carrick back to pick a team each week till the end of the season.
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Only 8 games left so why bother sacking Ralf now?
We are a typically reactive organisation with inept owners and even more clueless people running the place. If Ten Hag is the answer then why not get him in sooner rather than have an interim manager who has not managed since 2019 let alone manage a top side in his career?
posted on 2/4/22
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
posted on 2/4/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
posted on 2/4/22
This whole team should be sold
…….
Not really. When Tuchel came in at Chelsea did he get rid of all the players who were performing, like ours are now, for Lampard.
All it will take is someone to come in who knows what the hell he is doing and tweak a few things and sort the under performers out.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by Salam Reds (U22803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
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I apologise. I posted it on Robb's and thought it is more appropriate here. I hope I have not offended you.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salam Reds (U22803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Even during the days of bringing on Fellaini to save us, i celebrated when he scored like the last min winners during Fergie days. A part of me today genuinely felt like not celebrating had we scored last minute. I have never felt this way until now. This whole team should be sold
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You've posted the same comment on two different threads!
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I apologise. I posted it on Robb's and thought it is more appropriate here. I hope I have not offended you.
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We need Fellaini back 🥳
posted on 2/4/22
Just getting in someone like Ten Hag would solve nothing, we must also ensure as a club we back him in the market and get all his targets. Realistic targets to boot!
In the past we have failed as a club getting the managerial appts right but also getting in sub standard players at over inflated prices, a sign of sheer desperation.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
This whole team should be sold
…….
Not really. When Tuchel came in at Chelsea did he get rid of all the players who were performing, like ours are now, for Lampard.
All it will take is someone to come in who knows what the hell he is doing and tweak a few things and sort the under performers out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bar a Guardiola or Klopp VC, I genuinely believe we have a rotten set of players. Players the calibre of Luke Shaw now have the audacity to go on England duty throwing shade at Manchester United. I will keep the young boy Elanga, Sancho, Varane and Fred (I know goes against sell all) and go from there
posted on 2/4/22
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
posted on 2/4/22
fledgling
posted on 2/4/22
Was at the game today and never known such utter rejection of the bunch of crap representing our great Club from the fans around as today, gutless, pathetic and embarrassing, nothing more to say
posted on 2/4/22
Your team looked so dead today, looked so stark considering Leicester weren’t much better. The atmosphere at the ground was also terrible. But the players do nothing to help that, so many sideways passing from your defence, can’t sustain pressure and a lot of your players appear as if they mostly hate each other, no cohesion at all. Looks like you really do need a big rebuild, at least 70% of your team need shipping out and replaced. Going to need a manager and board with a collective drive to get that right though
posted on 2/4/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
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He's older than Pep by the way. Hardly fledgling.
posted on 2/4/22
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
LVG is right about Ten Hag. United could scupper his fledging managerial career in he big boys league if he choses United. Apparently he has some offers from actual Football Clubs to consider as well as United. One prominent one in Germany apparently.
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He's older than Pep by the way. Hardly fledgling.
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Fledgling at the very top leagues for sure as the main man, so to speak.
I think Ten Hag was 2nd in command at Bayern under Pep?
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