they are called solidarity development fees. that should be enough for you google and find out what you need to know... if you cant be bothered doing that then :
WHAT IS A SOLIDARITY PAYMENT AND HOW IS IT CALCULATED?
Solidarity payments are those that occur when a football player is still in a contract but is transferred between different jurisdictions. Clubs pay transfer fees, and up to five percent of this fee is withheld to be used as the solidarity payments. Solidarity payments are distributed to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club. Solidarity payments do not stop at the player's 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player's professional career each time he is transferred while under contract.
Transfer fees are usually not disclosed but can be in the millions (reportedly they have been as high as €222 million), so solidarity payments will vary. But to recap, solidarity payments are determined by:
withholding 5% of the transfer fee; and
dividing that amount proportionally among all clubs the player trained at between the ages of 12 and 23.
For example, using Fred in the above example, if he is transferred from a club in Germany to a club in Spain while still under contract with the club in Germany, the Spanish club will pay a transfer fee. If that transfer fee is equivalent to $8 million, then 5% is set aside (equivalent to $400,000). Fred's first academy (where he spent 2 years) would receive $100,000 and the second academy (where he spent 6 years) would receive $300,000.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 seconds ago
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for the sake of your son I suggest you look into it.
i thought they only applied to players up to the age of 24, but this continues throughout their entire career
The solidarity fee is not the same as the sell on % and not what we are discussing in the context of Ramsay.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 17 seconds ago
The solidarity fee is not the same as the sell on % and not what we are discussing in the context of Ramsay.
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like I said its explained here:
WHAT IS A SOLIDARITY PAYMENT AND HOW IS IT CALCULATED?
Solidarity payments are those that occur when a football player is still in a contract but is transferred between different jurisdictions. Clubs pay transfer fees, and up to five percent of this fee is withheld to be used as the solidarity payments. Solidarity payments are distributed to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club. Solidarity payments do not stop at the player's 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player's professional career each time he is transferred while under contract.
I know the solidarity payment will occur when /if another team buy Ramsey from liverpool. up to 5% of that fee will be taken from that next transfer and given to Aberdeen. then if that club then sells Rasmey to another club then a % of that 2nd transfer will again be sanctioned to Aberdeen ... this will continue until he retires.
but at least we have moved on from "bollix" .. eh?
like I said Aberdenn will automatically have a sell on fee for Ramsey guranteed.
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
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The solidarity payment which is non-negotiable should not be conflated with the sell-on percentage or fee which is. Further, the solidarity payment is not applied in all transfers. Like the training compensation, one day there will be a Bosman like case. They’ve been trying in Scotland to outlaw the trading in talented children for years without success.
Literally the first time you mention the word solidarity is when you claim some hollow victory.
Words are important. My point stands.
I'm not sure how he will cope with the physical demands of the PL tbh, good player going forward & prertty skilfull but he doesn't have much acceleration
No harm mate, but comparing with Patterson isnt the best idea.
You've said Patterson hardly featured for Rangers....he'd made 27 appearances for us in total...Ramsay has made 39 appearances for Aberdeen in total, probably a lot more minutes, that I'll give you, but only about 12 more games where he's been on the park.
Before he joined Everton, Patterson had made 9 appearances in Europe for us, including group stage and knockout level matches, and had played 6 times for his country, including at the Euros, a major tournament.
He had also played and scored for his club in Europe at group stage level, and for his country in a World Cup qualifier.
As said, no harm to young Ramsay, he's a good young player and I hope he does well....but he has only proven himself in the SPFL and nowhere else.
£4m up front plus up to £2.5m addons, for a player at that level, in my opinion, isn't too bad a deal....and I'd bet there is also an element of Aberdeen willing to make a deal at a far lesser amount than Rangers would have agreed to.
Ramsay played for Aberdeen in Europe albeit the conference league
Patterson also near 18 months older
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
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I wasn't in the least bit surprised 🤣🤣
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
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The solidarity payment which is non-negotiable should not be conflated with the sell-on percentage or fee which is. Further, the solidarity payment is not applied in all transfers. Like the training compensation, one day there will be a Bosman like case. They’ve been trying in Scotland to outlaw the trading in talented children for years without success.
Literally the first time you mention the word solidarity is when you claim some hollow victory.
Words are important. My point stands.
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Na I had to look up the actual term of the clause, like I said this is not a development fee thats seperate, why they called it a solidarity payment cos thats misleading I dont know but thats what they did. I said there wil be a mandatory sell on fee applied cos he was under 24, this is not a one off sell on fee and will apply every time he transfers from club to club that includes a transfer fee.
so when I recalled this off the top my head I thought the value was between 1-4% , its actually 1-5%. I said Aberdeen could negotiate it, they cant its not determined by them.
it wasnt bollix, you just didnt know about it.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 13 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
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what is it they say .... ignorance is bliss ?
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
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Ignorance is bliss though, apparently.
Even when it’s pointed out.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
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"Sky reporting it as 4m with a possible 2.5m in add ons, no mention of any sell on fee , but it is mandatory to have a sell on % for players under a certain age. how much that gets negotiated to I cant see anywhwere"
This is what I started of by saying , you assumed I was talking about the same thing! ..... i only said the solidarity payment term part once I looked it up and found the actual name of the clause....how is it negligible ... 5% is neglible? like I said that sell on fee remins with them throughout their career. so if liverpool sold him for 10m aberdeen would get 500k possibly, then he moves on again say for 10-15m aberdeen would AGAIN get a cut of that transfer also.
Yes I had to look up to get the actual definintion of the clause and find out the percentages etc....
I am fully aware of what I was talking about ... I started off by talking about a mandatory sell on fee .... not one that is possibly added ontop of this (the more common one).
but the comment is there for you to go back in gloss over. I was talking about the mandatory sell on fee, you go that confused with a different (non mandatory) sell on fee. You didnt even know this clause existed, when you really should
Yet now that you have looked it up and got the name correct you either still misunderstand it or are deliberately twisting the numbers in a desperate attempt to aid your own argument against why nobody talks about it.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yet now that you have looked it up and got the name correct you either still misunderstand it or are deliberately twisting the numbers in a desperate attempt to aid your own argument against why nobody talks about it.
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in what way am I twisting it ....yes I had to look it up to get the exact details of percentage ranges and the actual official name of the sell on clause ??? i dont see why u seem to have a problem with that ?? I was aware of the clause but didnt know every exact term.
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
Like I said I brought up the mandatory clause, you were not aware of it and called it out as "bollix" and said I was making it all up.
that has not turned out to be the case. you are the one that assumed i got them mixed up despite from the very post I said I was referring to the MANDATORY sell on fee.
If my son was tyring to make as a pro footballer id certainly be more aware of things like this..
but hey ho, you know now
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
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You implied Dons could earn the full 5% when they've only carried out half his development. But you know best, eh?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
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You implied Dons could earn the full 5% when they've only carried out half his development. But you know best, eh?
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No I didnt I initialy said they would get between 2-4% then I looked it up to find out the exact figures and it turns out it can be up to 5%. as there is no other development club involved they will likely get the full 5%
the way it works is that if liverpool sell him they get 5% of the transfer amount (not the profit but he whole amount). Now if Liverpool sell him on before he turns 24 then they will also be included from there on in.
so that 5% that aberdeen had initially gets diluted (they would still get the 5% from the liverpool transfer) but after liverpool it would get diluted.
so say for eg liverpool sell him to southampton .... aberdeen would get 5% of that deal. say then southampton sold him on.... there is still a 5% amount to be taken of that and that gets split up between aberdeen and liverpool with the majority going to aberdeen.
If liverpool release ramsey and no team pays a transfer fee for him before 24 then any other transfers from then on in will have 5% of the transfer going to aberdeen,,, even if he somehow was transferred 10 times (after age 24) aberdeen would get 5% of every single transfer amount paid.
its all a little pathetic Silver you started out by thinking I was making this whole thing up .. tried to call me out on it as "bollix" and "making it all up".
it seems that you realise that wasnt the case and are now trying to nitpick any wee errors I may have made recalling the clause off the top of my head. ok i concede the sell amount isnt between 2-4% its 5%. yes I was wrong the selling club cannot negotiate this amount.
You jumped in unawares and now are trying to save face !
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posted on 16/6/22
they are called solidarity development fees. that should be enough for you google and find out what you need to know... if you cant be bothered doing that then :
WHAT IS A SOLIDARITY PAYMENT AND HOW IS IT CALCULATED?
Solidarity payments are those that occur when a football player is still in a contract but is transferred between different jurisdictions. Clubs pay transfer fees, and up to five percent of this fee is withheld to be used as the solidarity payments. Solidarity payments are distributed to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club. Solidarity payments do not stop at the player's 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player's professional career each time he is transferred while under contract.
Transfer fees are usually not disclosed but can be in the millions (reportedly they have been as high as €222 million), so solidarity payments will vary. But to recap, solidarity payments are determined by:
withholding 5% of the transfer fee; and
dividing that amount proportionally among all clubs the player trained at between the ages of 12 and 23.
For example, using Fred in the above example, if he is transferred from a club in Germany to a club in Spain while still under contract with the club in Germany, the Spanish club will pay a transfer fee. If that transfer fee is equivalent to $8 million, then 5% is set aside (equivalent to $400,000). Fred's first academy (where he spent 2 years) would receive $100,000 and the second academy (where he spent 6 years) would receive $300,000.
posted on 16/6/22
Yes
posted on 16/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 9 seconds ago
Yes
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for the sake of your son I suggest you look into it.
posted on 16/6/22
i thought they only applied to players up to the age of 24, but this continues throughout their entire career
posted on 16/6/22
The solidarity fee is not the same as the sell on % and not what we are discussing in the context of Ramsay.
posted on 16/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 17 seconds ago
The solidarity fee is not the same as the sell on % and not what we are discussing in the context of Ramsay.
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like I said its explained here:
WHAT IS A SOLIDARITY PAYMENT AND HOW IS IT CALCULATED?
Solidarity payments are those that occur when a football player is still in a contract but is transferred between different jurisdictions. Clubs pay transfer fees, and up to five percent of this fee is withheld to be used as the solidarity payments. Solidarity payments are distributed to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club. Solidarity payments do not stop at the player's 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player's professional career each time he is transferred while under contract.
I know the solidarity payment will occur when /if another team buy Ramsey from liverpool. up to 5% of that fee will be taken from that next transfer and given to Aberdeen. then if that club then sells Rasmey to another club then a % of that 2nd transfer will again be sanctioned to Aberdeen ... this will continue until he retires.
but at least we have moved on from "bollix" .. eh?
like I said Aberdenn will automatically have a sell on fee for Ramsey guranteed.
posted on 16/6/22
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
posted on 16/6/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
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The solidarity payment which is non-negotiable should not be conflated with the sell-on percentage or fee which is. Further, the solidarity payment is not applied in all transfers. Like the training compensation, one day there will be a Bosman like case. They’ve been trying in Scotland to outlaw the trading in talented children for years without success.
Literally the first time you mention the word solidarity is when you claim some hollow victory.
Words are important. My point stands.
posted on 16/6/22
I'm not sure how he will cope with the physical demands of the PL tbh, good player going forward & prertty skilfull but he doesn't have much acceleration
posted on 16/6/22
No harm mate, but comparing with Patterson isnt the best idea.
You've said Patterson hardly featured for Rangers....he'd made 27 appearances for us in total...Ramsay has made 39 appearances for Aberdeen in total, probably a lot more minutes, that I'll give you, but only about 12 more games where he's been on the park.
Before he joined Everton, Patterson had made 9 appearances in Europe for us, including group stage and knockout level matches, and had played 6 times for his country, including at the Euros, a major tournament.
He had also played and scored for his club in Europe at group stage level, and for his country in a World Cup qualifier.
As said, no harm to young Ramsay, he's a good young player and I hope he does well....but he has only proven himself in the SPFL and nowhere else.
£4m up front plus up to £2.5m addons, for a player at that level, in my opinion, isn't too bad a deal....and I'd bet there is also an element of Aberdeen willing to make a deal at a far lesser amount than Rangers would have agreed to.
posted on 16/6/22
Ramsay played for Aberdeen in Europe albeit the conference league
Patterson also near 18 months older
posted on 16/6/22
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
posted on 16/6/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
posted on 16/6/22
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
posted on 16/6/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
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I wasn't in the least bit surprised 🤣🤣
posted on 17/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 13 minutes ago
it is then down to whether Aberdeen negotiated to get this fee higher or not, but they will 100% have a sell on fee no ifs or buts from this solidarity fee.
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The solidarity payment which is non-negotiable should not be conflated with the sell-on percentage or fee which is. Further, the solidarity payment is not applied in all transfers. Like the training compensation, one day there will be a Bosman like case. They’ve been trying in Scotland to outlaw the trading in talented children for years without success.
Literally the first time you mention the word solidarity is when you claim some hollow victory.
Words are important. My point stands.
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Na I had to look up the actual term of the clause, like I said this is not a development fee thats seperate, why they called it a solidarity payment cos thats misleading I dont know but thats what they did. I said there wil be a mandatory sell on fee applied cos he was under 24, this is not a one off sell on fee and will apply every time he transfers from club to club that includes a transfer fee.
so when I recalled this off the top my head I thought the value was between 1-4% , its actually 1-5%. I said Aberdeen could negotiate it, they cant its not determined by them.
it wasnt bollix, you just didnt know about it.
posted on 17/6/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 13 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 49 minutes ago
Late to the party and not looking to stir the hornet’s nest, but is there not a total difference between a sell on clause and a solidarity payment?
Is that not obvious?
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Yes...one is a sell on clause and one is compensation to offset development costs.
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Yeah-which is why I was surprised at the debate earlier.
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what is it they say .... ignorance is bliss ?
posted on 17/6/22
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
posted on 17/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
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Ignorance is bliss though, apparently.
Even when it’s pointed out.
posted on 17/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really was bollix because you didn't even bring up the word solidarity. You conflated the two. Maybe on purpose?
Any time the press or anyone on here talks about the sell on fee or % they refer to the typically 10-30% negotiated number and not the 1-5% solidarity fee which is non-negotiable and for the most part is negligible financially hence why nobody talks about it.
I understand you got confused / excited. You admit you had to look it up and even now I'm not sure you understand the difference between development, solidarity and negotiated sell-on but you seem pleased so enjoy your day.
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"Sky reporting it as 4m with a possible 2.5m in add ons, no mention of any sell on fee , but it is mandatory to have a sell on % for players under a certain age. how much that gets negotiated to I cant see anywhwere"
This is what I started of by saying , you assumed I was talking about the same thing! ..... i only said the solidarity payment term part once I looked it up and found the actual name of the clause....how is it negligible ... 5% is neglible? like I said that sell on fee remins with them throughout their career. so if liverpool sold him for 10m aberdeen would get 500k possibly, then he moves on again say for 10-15m aberdeen would AGAIN get a cut of that transfer also.
Yes I had to look up to get the actual definintion of the clause and find out the percentages etc....
I am fully aware of what I was talking about ... I started off by talking about a mandatory sell on fee .... not one that is possibly added ontop of this (the more common one).
but the comment is there for you to go back in gloss over. I was talking about the mandatory sell on fee, you go that confused with a different (non mandatory) sell on fee. You didnt even know this clause existed, when you really should
posted on 17/6/22
Yet now that you have looked it up and got the name correct you either still misunderstand it or are deliberately twisting the numbers in a desperate attempt to aid your own argument against why nobody talks about it.
posted on 17/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yet now that you have looked it up and got the name correct you either still misunderstand it or are deliberately twisting the numbers in a desperate attempt to aid your own argument against why nobody talks about it.
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in what way am I twisting it ....yes I had to look it up to get the exact details of percentage ranges and the actual official name of the sell on clause ??? i dont see why u seem to have a problem with that ?? I was aware of the clause but didnt know every exact term.
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
Like I said I brought up the mandatory clause, you were not aware of it and called it out as "bollix" and said I was making it all up.
that has not turned out to be the case. you are the one that assumed i got them mixed up despite from the very post I said I was referring to the MANDATORY sell on fee.
If my son was tyring to make as a pro footballer id certainly be more aware of things like this..
but hey ho, you know now
posted on 17/6/22
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
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You implied Dons could earn the full 5% when they've only carried out half his development. But you know best, eh?
posted on 17/6/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
what numbers did I skew? I said the percentage was up to 4% quite clearly said it... its actually 5%.
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You implied Dons could earn the full 5% when they've only carried out half his development. But you know best, eh?
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No I didnt I initialy said they would get between 2-4% then I looked it up to find out the exact figures and it turns out it can be up to 5%. as there is no other development club involved they will likely get the full 5%
the way it works is that if liverpool sell him they get 5% of the transfer amount (not the profit but he whole amount). Now if Liverpool sell him on before he turns 24 then they will also be included from there on in.
so that 5% that aberdeen had initially gets diluted (they would still get the 5% from the liverpool transfer) but after liverpool it would get diluted.
so say for eg liverpool sell him to southampton .... aberdeen would get 5% of that deal. say then southampton sold him on.... there is still a 5% amount to be taken of that and that gets split up between aberdeen and liverpool with the majority going to aberdeen.
If liverpool release ramsey and no team pays a transfer fee for him before 24 then any other transfers from then on in will have 5% of the transfer going to aberdeen,,, even if he somehow was transferred 10 times (after age 24) aberdeen would get 5% of every single transfer amount paid.
posted on 17/6/22
its all a little pathetic Silver you started out by thinking I was making this whole thing up .. tried to call me out on it as "bollix" and "making it all up".
it seems that you realise that wasnt the case and are now trying to nitpick any wee errors I may have made recalling the clause off the top of my head. ok i concede the sell amount isnt between 2-4% its 5%. yes I was wrong the selling club cannot negotiate this amount.
You jumped in unawares and now are trying to save face !
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