comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
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Absolutely. We've not done so bad so far, queue loop into AHH but Romans gone now, followed by have you looked at our numbers the last x years followed by we've got a big stadium now snorefest.
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
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Absolutely. We've not done so bad so far, queue loop into AHH but Romans gone now, followed by have you looked at our numbers the last x years followed by we've got a big stadium now snorefest.
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comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 22 hours, 46 minutes ago
There is another factor here that is not being talked about but I believe is another reason (apart from our consistent and ongoing success) why Chelsea will always be able to command bigger deals than Spurs or Arsenal for that matter.
Part of what makes up our global "Brand" and how we are perceived around the various parts of the UK and the wider world when attracting sponsors (or even new owners for that matter in their hundreds!!) is our location. Arsenal and Spurs, big Club's as they are, have never been able to replicate that in their areas, and won't I believe, at any time in future. As any estate agent will tell you it's all about location, location, location and our Club is situated amongst some of the most expensive real estate in the entire Country.
The North London Club's and particularly Tottenham are not situated in particularly nice or sought-after (and thus more valuable) areas, especially when it is directly compared to our part of London. Even the name of our Club is named after arguably the most glamourous and sexy part of London.
It is alleged that the reason that Abramovich turned down Spurs even before he even knew about Chelsea was not because of the state of their ground, (even though it wasn't anywhere near as nice then as it is now) but he apparently was aghast at the state of the surrounding locations around the ground which he allegedly described as "Worse than parts of Siberia!!" So Spurs clearly missed out on getting the best owner any Football Club could wish to have, purely because of their location.
Spurs fans love to tell everyone how their new ground has increased the value of their Club, (to as high as £8 million according to some!!) and while that is obviously a laughable claim it cannot be denied that it has definitely increased the brand value of their Club. However I know for a fact that if you were to carefully dismantle their ground brick by brick and then carefully rebuild it again on the site of Stamford Bridge (impossible I know because of a lack of space and due to the shape of the site) it would be worth a lot more than it is now because of where it would be situated. Those I am afraid are the harsh realities of life that Spurs fans will just have to accept.
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That most certainly is very understated. Although we were lucky to a degree to get taken over by Abramovich when we did, it makes the "you won the lottery" narrative slightly nonsense. Once the PL was formed, and England's top league started becoming more of a brand than just the top league in a popular sport, a wealthy takeover for us was somewhat inevitable. Factor in the success we had around the late 90's/early 00's, and we were the clearest example of untapped potential (maybe only second to Newcastle) you could take on at the time.
If a club like Bournemouth (random example) got a trillionaire buyout tomorrow, that would be winning the lottery! Because there's nothing obviously marketable about them. They play in a good kit, Milan's famous red & black devil colours, but that's about it.
So despite having some of the most expensive real estate in the Country you were sold for less than the price of a Happy Meal
Alluded to another good point I didn't even mention, we were also cheap (relative to a billionaire even with the debt). Another reason it was inevitable
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
So despite having some of the most expensive real estate in the Country you were sold for less than the price of a Happy Meal
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140 million is a lot for a happy meal isn't it?
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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So says the real plastic fan that doesn't know or hides what the true story of what that deal actually was in 1982.
JFDI is a proper fan from the '80's, I know him and I've met him many times at Football. You're so far out of your depth here Delusionshire it's not true!!
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
So come on then proper fan, what was the actual deal? Get your google out and let's see how much you actually know about it, or can find out.
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 18 minutes ago
So come on then proper fan, what was the actual deal? Get your google out and let's see how much you actually know about it, or can find out.
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Easy Summer, I fear any glad mpse of reality might be a bit too much for this one.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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The more I read your posts the more I realise what an uneducated plank you actually are.
And people on here thought Sandy was a football conversational liability - you're starting to run him close!
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
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They are not facts though are they? There’s nothing “fanciful” about the fact that Monte Carlo will always be more sought after than Beirut, however many shiny Buildings Beirut might build.
You can only polish a tuuurd so much!! 😂
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
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I was responding to someone who introduced the concept that Chelsea's postcode makes them highly valuable.
Even if you take 'recent history' RA bought you for £140 and a couple years later United were bought for £800m, reinforcing my point that postcode has little impact on value, further reinforced by my reference to being bought for a quid.
I didnt introduce the matter of postcode, I just responded to it.
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
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They are not facts though are they? There’s nothing “fanciful” about the fact that Monte Carlo will always be more sought after than Beirut, however many shiny Buildings Beirut might build.
You can only polish a tuuurd so much!! 😂
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So AS Monaco will be worth more than THFC on that basis, right?
Real estate valuation is a world apart from the value of a business which is fundamentally based on its revenues, profitability and, to a degree, its assets which may include an element of real estate.
I get that N17 is a dump but it has little impact on the value of Spurs.
There is no comparison between Spurs and Man U or Chelsea and Man U for that matter either!!
But there is a direct comparison between Spurs and Chelsea and you are in a disadvantaged position..
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
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I was responding to someone who introduced the concept that Chelsea's postcode makes them highly valuable.
Even if you take 'recent history' RA bought you for £140 and a couple years later United were bought for £800m, reinforcing my point that postcode has little impact on value, further reinforced by my reference to being bought for a quid.
I didnt introduce the matter of postcode, I just responded to it.
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It doesn't matter who you were responding to, your content clearly makes a mockery of everything you claim.
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
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It doesn't matter who you were responding to, your content clearly makes a mockery of everything you claim.
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A statement not backed up by reality.
In your response to me you wrongly "assumed i was confused"
Im my response to you I wrongly assumed you didnt know the history of your club. and now you're all upset because i called you plastic. I now know you're not but your response lead me to believe you were.
Get over it.
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posted on 21/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
posted on 21/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
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Absolutely. We've not done so bad so far, queue loop into AHH but Romans gone now, followed by have you looked at our numbers the last x years followed by we've got a big stadium now snorefest.
posted on 21/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 25 minutes ago
Yes, in terms of sponsorship deals Spurs need to win league titles and European cups to get to Chelsea’s level.
A lot of ifs there
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And if CFC want to match Spurs matchday revenue then they'll need to spend £1bn on a stadium....big IF
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But that's the point, we don't really give a fluff for your stadium revenue. We will likely match or exceed it at some point if or when we develop the bridge, the bottom line is more important amongst other things like success.
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success needs paying for.
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Absolutely. We've not done so bad so far, queue loop into AHH but Romans gone now, followed by have you looked at our numbers the last x years followed by we've got a big stadium now snorefest.
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posted on 22/6/22
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 22 hours, 46 minutes ago
There is another factor here that is not being talked about but I believe is another reason (apart from our consistent and ongoing success) why Chelsea will always be able to command bigger deals than Spurs or Arsenal for that matter.
Part of what makes up our global "Brand" and how we are perceived around the various parts of the UK and the wider world when attracting sponsors (or even new owners for that matter in their hundreds!!) is our location. Arsenal and Spurs, big Club's as they are, have never been able to replicate that in their areas, and won't I believe, at any time in future. As any estate agent will tell you it's all about location, location, location and our Club is situated amongst some of the most expensive real estate in the entire Country.
The North London Club's and particularly Tottenham are not situated in particularly nice or sought-after (and thus more valuable) areas, especially when it is directly compared to our part of London. Even the name of our Club is named after arguably the most glamourous and sexy part of London.
It is alleged that the reason that Abramovich turned down Spurs even before he even knew about Chelsea was not because of the state of their ground, (even though it wasn't anywhere near as nice then as it is now) but he apparently was aghast at the state of the surrounding locations around the ground which he allegedly described as "Worse than parts of Siberia!!" So Spurs clearly missed out on getting the best owner any Football Club could wish to have, purely because of their location.
Spurs fans love to tell everyone how their new ground has increased the value of their Club, (to as high as £8 million according to some!!) and while that is obviously a laughable claim it cannot be denied that it has definitely increased the brand value of their Club. However I know for a fact that if you were to carefully dismantle their ground brick by brick and then carefully rebuild it again on the site of Stamford Bridge (impossible I know because of a lack of space and due to the shape of the site) it would be worth a lot more than it is now because of where it would be situated. Those I am afraid are the harsh realities of life that Spurs fans will just have to accept.
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That most certainly is very understated. Although we were lucky to a degree to get taken over by Abramovich when we did, it makes the "you won the lottery" narrative slightly nonsense. Once the PL was formed, and England's top league started becoming more of a brand than just the top league in a popular sport, a wealthy takeover for us was somewhat inevitable. Factor in the success we had around the late 90's/early 00's, and we were the clearest example of untapped potential (maybe only second to Newcastle) you could take on at the time.
If a club like Bournemouth (random example) got a trillionaire buyout tomorrow, that would be winning the lottery! Because there's nothing obviously marketable about them. They play in a good kit, Milan's famous red & black devil colours, but that's about it.
posted on 22/6/22
So despite having some of the most expensive real estate in the Country you were sold for less than the price of a Happy Meal
posted on 22/6/22
Alluded to another good point I didn't even mention, we were also cheap (relative to a billionaire even with the debt). Another reason it was inevitable
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
So despite having some of the most expensive real estate in the Country you were sold for less than the price of a Happy Meal
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140 million is a lot for a happy meal isn't it?
posted on 22/6/22
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 32 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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So says the real plastic fan that doesn't know or hides what the true story of what that deal actually was in 1982.
JFDI is a proper fan from the '80's, I know him and I've met him many times at Football. You're so far out of your depth here Delusionshire it's not true!!
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
posted on 22/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
posted on 22/6/22
So come on then proper fan, what was the actual deal? Get your google out and let's see how much you actually know about it, or can find out.
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 18 minutes ago
So come on then proper fan, what was the actual deal? Get your google out and let's see how much you actually know about it, or can find out.
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Easy Summer, I fear any glad mpse of reality might be a bit too much for this one.
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
posted on 22/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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The more I read your posts the more I realise what an uneducated plank you actually are.
And people on here thought Sandy was a football conversational liability - you're starting to run him close!
posted on 23/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
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whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
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Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
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They are not facts though are they? There’s nothing “fanciful” about the fact that Monte Carlo will always be more sought after than Beirut, however many shiny Buildings Beirut might build.
You can only polish a tuuurd so much!! 😂
posted on 23/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
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I was responding to someone who introduced the concept that Chelsea's postcode makes them highly valuable.
Even if you take 'recent history' RA bought you for £140 and a couple years later United were bought for £800m, reinforcing my point that postcode has little impact on value, further reinforced by my reference to being bought for a quid.
I didnt introduce the matter of postcode, I just responded to it.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course I remember Bayes buying the club for 1 pound, I know how and why and took part in more than 1 pitch invasion protesting against the previous owners.
Not sure that happy meals even existed then and I've no idea how much they cost then I didn't have kids then.
As for plastic, with am imagination like yours I can better understand your misconceptions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
whatevs....you happily played dumb about my reference to being bought for a pound, which you were.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not at all I thought you had got confused, we had been talking about Buck, the Roman era etc. It must be comforting for you as a spurs fan to slip back 40 years like that to when you had a half decent team and some mega signings to come but you really shouldake yourself clearer if you are going to go off topic like that. I know I should be used to people with weak points to broaden the discussion but I like to stay on topic.
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discussions had digressed on to the rather fanciful notion that your clubs postcode makes it inevitable you would be bought and continues to impact on your clubs value. I was simply countering with some facts.
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They are not facts though are they? There’s nothing “fanciful” about the fact that Monte Carlo will always be more sought after than Beirut, however many shiny Buildings Beirut might build.
You can only polish a tuuurd so much!! 😂
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So AS Monaco will be worth more than THFC on that basis, right?
Real estate valuation is a world apart from the value of a business which is fundamentally based on its revenues, profitability and, to a degree, its assets which may include an element of real estate.
I get that N17 is a dump but it has little impact on the value of Spurs.
posted on 23/6/22
There is no comparison between Spurs and Man U or Chelsea and Man U for that matter either!!
But there is a direct comparison between Spurs and Chelsea and you are in a disadvantaged position..
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 8 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
As a plastic, you probably don't remember Ken Bates buying Chelsea for £1 in 1982
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I think you'd be shocked to find that many of us actually well preceeded Ken Bates by a good few years.
Be careful about throwing the plastic jibe around because there are Chelsea fans on this site that know more about Spurs than you do let alone Chelsea!
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as I said above, if people will play dumb about your past then it is perhaps not surprising one might assume that you are not aware if it.
I have massive respect for proper fans, and those who go to games, those who recognise that supporting a club goes way deeper than watching them be successful and winning stuff. It's a passion, it's loyalty, it's emotion, its a love of the game. I will always have respect for people who share this common love...as long as a bit of humility is involved .
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Your words are meaningless, your actions show you have no respect, no humility and definitely no shared passion. You don't even have the ability to stay on topic then blame others for not keeping up with your random meanderings.
Clearly moving back 40 years when we were discussing recent developments is not the action of a fan looking for serious discussion. You are just a whim, an I'll prepared and poor one at that and your words and actions reinforce that with every post.
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I was responding to someone who introduced the concept that Chelsea's postcode makes them highly valuable.
Even if you take 'recent history' RA bought you for £140 and a couple years later United were bought for £800m, reinforcing my point that postcode has little impact on value, further reinforced by my reference to being bought for a quid.
I didnt introduce the matter of postcode, I just responded to it.
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It doesn't matter who you were responding to, your content clearly makes a mockery of everything you claim.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
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It doesn't matter who you were responding to, your content clearly makes a mockery of everything you claim.
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A statement not backed up by reality.
In your response to me you wrongly "assumed i was confused"
Im my response to you I wrongly assumed you didnt know the history of your club. and now you're all upset because i called you plastic. I now know you're not but your response lead me to believe you were.
Get over it.
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