Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
And anyway that £11m couldn’t get you a quality player - it equates to 14% of Harry Maguire
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 14 minutes ago
Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
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They may be the owners, but the fans are paying for their purchase, even now, and on top of that the success of the club (which would happen without them) sees them rewarded further.
The debt over the club is probably a limiting factor in the clubs ability or desire to accrue further debt in investing in infrastructure, where you are falling behind other clubs. Your massive name carries you to a certain degree, but the perception of the club is waning and this is entirely down to a lack of quality leadership and neglect.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
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Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
Sounds like you need to sort out your sources, not good enough.
If £11m was a drop in the ocean to the club we'd have seen Frenkie De Jongs piano solo 3 weeks ago.
It's not 11m though is it? It's £11m today but they take the other £10m every year in January don't they?
I'm sure the dividends are roughly 20m a year. The most of any professional club in the world. Most don't take any whatsoever actually.
Parasites. Debt was indeed the road to ruin David Gill.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 14 minutes ago
Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
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They may be the owners, but the fans are paying for their purchase, even now, and on top of that the success of the club (which would happen without them) sees them rewarded further.
The debt over the club is probably a limiting factor in the clubs ability or desire to accrue further debt in investing in infrastructure, where you are falling behind other clubs. Your massive name carries you to a certain degree, but the perception of the club is waning and this is entirely down to a lack of quality leadership and neglect.
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Quality leadership or failing infrastructure?
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
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Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
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I think that the CPS have to prove that there is reasonable chance of bringing charges, including outlining evidence.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 16 minutes ago
Sounds like you need to sort out your sources, not good enough.
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I get told what i get told.
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
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Arnold said the money needed for transfers is available.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
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Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that the CPS have to prove that there is reasonable chance of bringing charges, including outlining evidence.
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Really? Does bail or no bail really influence any ongoing investigation?
Haven't they been receiving something like £20m a year for the last 5+ years?
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
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One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 4 minutes ago
Haven't they been receiving something like £20m a year for the last 5+ years?
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Yeah I believe they take it over two payments hence why this week it's 'only' £11m.
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comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
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Arnold said the money needed for transfers is available.
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He seems like a smart man too
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
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Compare the clubs value/revenue growth in percentage terms with others of a similar stature over the same period
The criticism is still valid as they only improved that side of things while United got worse and worse on field and in terms of club facilities. They're basically on par commercially and truly woeful for everything else.
Glazers have done a great job in the last 9 years
They deserve every of penny they leach from the club
To date, the Glazers have paid themselves close to £250m in dividends. At the moment, they’re paying themselves about £23m per season. (Plus loans, plus ‘consultancy fees’, plus whatever they make from selling off shares a little at a time.)
Not bad considering they put hardly any money in to buy the club.
Interest payments are coming in at about £25m per season at the moment.
So the Glazers are still costing United about £50m per season, before the intangible financial cost of their shiiiiit decisionmaking and mismanagement.
And the debt remains, of course.
Yeah. I really wish we had good owners from the middle eastern oil states.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Compare the clubs value/revenue growth in percentage terms with others of a similar stature over the same period
The criticism is still valid as they only improved that side of things while United got worse and worse on field and in terms of club facilities. They're basically on par commercially and truly woeful for everything else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were leagues ahead. We cant blame the Glazers for others pulling their finger out and making the best of the Premier leagues worldwide appeal.
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posted on 23/6/22
Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
posted on 23/6/22
And anyway that £11m couldn’t get you a quality player - it equates to 14% of Harry Maguire
posted on 23/6/22
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 14 minutes ago
Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They may be the owners, but the fans are paying for their purchase, even now, and on top of that the success of the club (which would happen without them) sees them rewarded further.
The debt over the club is probably a limiting factor in the clubs ability or desire to accrue further debt in investing in infrastructure, where you are falling behind other clubs. Your massive name carries you to a certain degree, but the perception of the club is waning and this is entirely down to a lack of quality leadership and neglect.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
posted on 23/6/22
Sounds like you need to sort out your sources, not good enough.
posted on 23/6/22
If £11m was a drop in the ocean to the club we'd have seen Frenkie De Jongs piano solo 3 weeks ago.
posted on 23/6/22
It's not 11m though is it? It's £11m today but they take the other £10m every year in January don't they?
I'm sure the dividends are roughly 20m a year. The most of any professional club in the world. Most don't take any whatsoever actually.
Parasites. Debt was indeed the road to ruin David Gill.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 14 minutes ago
Agreed. they own the club and they have the right to it.
People need to get over it, in the grand scheme of things 11 mil is a drop in the ocean.
as you say that players in the club who do absolutely nothing get more than that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They may be the owners, but the fans are paying for their purchase, even now, and on top of that the success of the club (which would happen without them) sees them rewarded further.
The debt over the club is probably a limiting factor in the clubs ability or desire to accrue further debt in investing in infrastructure, where you are falling behind other clubs. Your massive name carries you to a certain degree, but the perception of the club is waning and this is entirely down to a lack of quality leadership and neglect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quality leadership or failing infrastructure?
posted on 23/6/22
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that the CPS have to prove that there is reasonable chance of bringing charges, including outlining evidence.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 16 minutes ago
Sounds like you need to sort out your sources, not good enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get told what i get told.
posted on 23/6/22
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arnold said the money needed for transfers is available.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
Greenwood's bail decision today RDD. Are your sources still telling you that it will all be dropped?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Havent heard anything since.
Im guessing an extension to bail is a formality if the investigation is still ongoing?
They can still investigate without him being on bail so doesnt really matter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that the CPS have to prove that there is reasonable chance of bringing charges, including outlining evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really? Does bail or no bail really influence any ongoing investigation?
posted on 23/6/22
Haven't they been receiving something like £20m a year for the last 5+ years?
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
posted on 23/6/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 4 minutes ago
Haven't they been receiving something like £20m a year for the last 5+ years?
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Yeah I believe they take it over two payments hence why this week it's 'only' £11m.
posted on 23/6/22
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posted on 23/6/22
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
In a summer when United need every penny they have to improve the squad the leeches strike again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arnold said the money needed for transfers is available.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He seems like a smart man too
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Compare the clubs value/revenue growth in percentage terms with others of a similar stature over the same period
The criticism is still valid as they only improved that side of things while United got worse and worse on field and in terms of club facilities. They're basically on par commercially and truly woeful for everything else.
posted on 23/6/22
Glazers have done a great job in the last 9 years
They deserve every of penny they leach from the club
posted on 23/6/22
To date, the Glazers have paid themselves close to £250m in dividends. At the moment, they’re paying themselves about £23m per season. (Plus loans, plus ‘consultancy fees’, plus whatever they make from selling off shares a little at a time.)
Not bad considering they put hardly any money in to buy the club.
Interest payments are coming in at about £25m per season at the moment.
So the Glazers are still costing United about £50m per season, before the intangible financial cost of their shiiiiit decisionmaking and mismanagement.
And the debt remains, of course.
posted on 23/6/22
Yeah. I really wish we had good owners from the middle eastern oil states.
posted on 23/6/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
You pay that 11m plus the debt repayments because those people profiting 11m a year out of your club were able to buy it by saddling it in hundreds of millions of debt.
With the value of the club rising massively the Glazers will also make an absolute killing when they come to sell.
*The increase in value ks mostly due to things the Glazers had absolutely no hand in btw (see how other major Prem clubs have also skyrocketed in value)
Concentrating purely on the 11m figure is laughably stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the criticisms of the Glazers has been how they have run the business as a commercial enterprise rather than a football club, so surely that has contributed to the significant increase in the clubs value?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Compare the clubs value/revenue growth in percentage terms with others of a similar stature over the same period
The criticism is still valid as they only improved that side of things while United got worse and worse on field and in terms of club facilities. They're basically on par commercially and truly woeful for everything else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were leagues ahead. We cant blame the Glazers for others pulling their finger out and making the best of the Premier leagues worldwide appeal.
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