Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
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Nice to see UWW being positive for a change.
Sneijder is a free agent now
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posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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He says with a straight face after giving up a 100m package for a one season wonder from the Portuguese league
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
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Wow. This guy is as thick as two short planks. I shall not be engaging. Go play with some other idiot on your level.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 11 minutes ago
Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
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No no no, I’m not suggesting that they’re in the kind of immediate predicament, or nearly as serious a predicament, that Barca are. Tbf, Barca are in a league of their own (in Spain, at least) there.
Real obviously have both cash, and (presently, comfortably enough) the means to service their debt. But they have had to rein in their transfer spending and cut their wage bill over the last few seasons, are still having to work to cut operating costs, and are about to be whacked with an additional €30m p/a in interest payments against the stadium debt.
They’re potentially a couple of average seasons away from having to make some difficult decisions.
I don’t want to overstate it; I know they aren’t anywhere near Barca - at all. But they’ll want to get that debt under control. It’s vast, and becoming more of a burden.
Bringing in Camavinga and Tchouaméni is good business by Madrid. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go deep in the CL again and win the league.
Starting to get massive wages off the bill like Bale too. They'll be fine.
I think we'll see the super league within 15 years anyway.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Bringing in Camavinga and Tchouaméni is good business by Madrid. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go deep in the CL again and win the league.
Starting to get massive wages off the bill like Bale too. They'll be fine.
I think we'll see the super league within 15 years anyway.
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This one isn’t over yet, obviously, but I think their last three summers have been an indication of where they’re at, given what came before.
They’ve done excellent business in bringing in frees, in sales, and in farming out players on loan to get the wage spend down.
Over the last three seasons, even with Tchouameni factored in, they’ll have brought in more than they’ve spent in transfer fees. The days of two or three Galácticos per summer are obviously gone (for now).
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comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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He says with a straight face after giving up a 100m package for a one season wonder from the Portuguese league
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
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Wow. This guy is as thick as two short planks. I shall not be engaging. Go play with some other idiot on your level.
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So you didn’t agree a €100m deal
Portuguese league isn’t sub par
You fought off competition from Nunez
He didn’t score a penalty, two tap ins, a header against Ajax who every time we’re linked with one of their players they’re sub par and 2 goals v Liverpool involving a missed clearance and some more world class defending from TAA?
Yeah, call someone an idiot because you can’t argue back.
Nunez will knock in 20 goals and you'll look silly again.
I'd obviously love Nunez to be a humiliating flop but Liverpool's data/scouting operation has been world class for years, and consistently picking out players that fit their needs like a glove. Minamino is the only player I can think of who really hasn't worked out, and even he wasn't expensive and wasn't shiitte, just couldn't compete with the established players.
I wasn't sure whether Nunez was the real deal a few months ago. When Liverpool went in for him I assumed he probably is.
If he scores 100 goals over the next five years I'll be happy enough.
Not going to lie I was really happy with how Jota has got on but bringing in Nunez and Diaz while Salah signs an has got me buzzing.
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
Bought Alisson with only one season at Roma under his belt tbf.
Considering he is our record signing I'd be amazed if they didn't see something very good or even special in him.
He's a full international who now starts for a more then decent Uruguay side don't forget.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
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As I said to that idiot above it was one season. Over two seasons he has scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. At 21/22 years old. He has progressed each season scoring one in two in La Liga2, keeping around that rate in his first season in Portugal, with league goals and Europa League goals and then going up a level again last season with league goals and CL goals. He has been hitting the numbers and showing huge potential to still improve. Of course you don't know how that's going to translate in the first season after a step up to the PL but then the same could be said for most transfers into the PL.
To say ''off the back of one season'' is disingenuous to say the least. He would have been signed based on his current figures but more so due to the potential the club obviously think he has.
I haven't seen much of him myself but his figures are great and the club have been great in the market since Klopp came in, so I'm confident.
Idiots like that imbecile above have made these claims for years, we had it with Mane, with Salah, with VVD and a host of others. Of course nobody brings up what their opinions at the time were now.
It's not like we were short of options, we could have signed most strikers in the world for the fee and wages we paid and most would have came. Different situation than the one United are in.
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comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 11 minutes ago
Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
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No no no, I’m not suggesting that they’re in the kind of immediate predicament, or nearly as serious a predicament, that Barca are. Tbf, Barca are in a league of their own (in Spain, at least) there.
Real obviously have both cash, and (presently, comfortably enough) the means to service their debt. But they have had to rein in their transfer spending and cut their wage bill over the last few seasons, are still having to work to cut operating costs, and are about to be whacked with an additional €30m p/a in interest payments against the stadium debt.
They’re potentially a couple of average seasons away from having to make some difficult decisions.
I don’t want to overstate it; I know they aren’t anywhere near Barca - at all. But they’ll want to get that debt under control. It’s vast, and becoming more of a burden.
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It’s not really, though. And they haven’t even benefited yet from the increased revenue that the Bernabeu will bring. They are basically like United with the debt we have. It’s not ideal but it’s far from financially damaging, particularly given revenues. And Madrid are as close to a guarantee of being in the CL knock out stages every single year.
I wouldn’t argue that United are in a particularly sensible position either though. They’re still spaffing a decent transfer’s worth of interest payments up the wall every season whilst the debt continues to grow.
Anyway, for now, I am content enough to reserve the belly laughs for Barca, Benfica and Porto.
I guess at least the latter two know how to, and seem to be able to continue to, pull in (the necessary) seriously good money from transfer outgoings.
Yeah but when you describe it as a world of debt pain, it would suggest it’s a bad position to be in. Spurs would probably be a better comparison actually anyway. Except Madrid’s revenues are much higher and they are guaranteed CL money.
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comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
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As I said to that idiot above it was one season. Over two seasons he has scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. At 21/22 years old. He has progressed each season scoring one in two in La Liga2, keeping around that rate in his first season in Portugal, with league goals and Europa League goals and then going up a level again last season with league goals and CL goals. He has been hitting the numbers and showing huge potential to still improve. Of course you don't know how that's going to translate in the first season after a step up to the PL but then the same could be said for most transfers into the PL.
To say ''off the back of one season'' is disingenuous to say the least. He would have been signed based on his current figures but more so due to the potential the club obviously think he has.
I haven't seen much of him myself but his figures are great and the club have been great in the market since Klopp came in, so I'm confident.
Idiots like that imbecile above have made these claims for years, we had it with Mane, with Salah, with VVD and a host of others. Of course nobody brings up what their opinions at the time were now.
It's not like we were short of options, we could have signed most strikers in the world for the fee and wages we paid and most would have came. Different situation than the one United are in.
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He scored 14 in 44 total appearances in the first year of this 2 seasons you refer to.
He then scored 34 last season, 26 of which were in a second rate league.
I’d hardly count his first season at Lisbon as proof he isn’t a one season wonder. Unless you think 14 in 44 games is proof otherwise
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
Yeah but when you describe it as a world of debt pain, it would suggest it’s a bad position to be in. Spurs would probably be a better comparison actually anyway. Except Madrid’s revenues are much higher and they are guaranteed CL money.
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Fair enough; “debt-pain” I should have reserved for Barca.
It’ll be intriguing to watch how Madrid behave the next few seasons, I think. If they keep hoovering up trophies, I’m sure all will be fine. If they slip a little and the fans start getting on Perez’s back for big money signings (with the inevitable accompanying big money contracts), it’ll be interesting to see how the management responds.
They’ve kinda moved away from that transfer model a long time ago. The money that the prem clubs and PSG have has made it so that it’s much more expensive for Madrid to dominate the market. Plus I suspect that Hazard, and Barca’s flops, have scared them off a bit buying players for £100+.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
They’ve kinda moved away from that transfer model a long time ago. The money that the prem clubs and PSG have has made it so that it’s much more expensive for Madrid to dominate the market. Plus I suspect that Hazard, and Barca’s flops, have scared them off a bit buying players for £100+.
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For sure.
This window isn’t over yet, obviously, but weird to think that they’ve spent more than €30m on a single player only once over the last three summers.
Nobody would have believed that if you’d told them it’d happen even five years ago I reckon.
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posted on 2/7/22
Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
posted on 2/7/22
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posted on 3/7/22
Nice to see UWW being positive for a change.
posted on 3/7/22
Sneijder is a free agent now
posted on 3/7/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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He says with a straight face after giving up a 100m package for a one season wonder from the Portuguese league
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
posted on 3/7/22
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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He says with a straight face after giving up a 100m package for a one season wonder from the Portuguese league
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
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Wow. This guy is as thick as two short planks. I shall not be engaging. Go play with some other idiot on your level.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 11 minutes ago
Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
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No no no, I’m not suggesting that they’re in the kind of immediate predicament, or nearly as serious a predicament, that Barca are. Tbf, Barca are in a league of their own (in Spain, at least) there.
Real obviously have both cash, and (presently, comfortably enough) the means to service their debt. But they have had to rein in their transfer spending and cut their wage bill over the last few seasons, are still having to work to cut operating costs, and are about to be whacked with an additional €30m p/a in interest payments against the stadium debt.
They’re potentially a couple of average seasons away from having to make some difficult decisions.
I don’t want to overstate it; I know they aren’t anywhere near Barca - at all. But they’ll want to get that debt under control. It’s vast, and becoming more of a burden.
posted on 3/7/22
Bringing in Camavinga and Tchouaméni is good business by Madrid. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go deep in the CL again and win the league.
Starting to get massive wages off the bill like Bale too. They'll be fine.
I think we'll see the super league within 15 years anyway.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Bringing in Camavinga and Tchouaméni is good business by Madrid. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go deep in the CL again and win the league.
Starting to get massive wages off the bill like Bale too. They'll be fine.
I think we'll see the super league within 15 years anyway.
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This one isn’t over yet, obviously, but I think their last three summers have been an indication of where they’re at, given what came before.
They’ve done excellent business in bringing in frees, in sales, and in farming out players on loan to get the wage spend down.
Over the last three seasons, even with Tchouameni factored in, they’ll have brought in more than they’ve spent in transfer fees. The days of two or three Galácticos per summer are obviously gone (for now).
posted on 3/7/22
#freefrenkie
posted on 3/7/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 16 minutes ago
Yes you can chuck money at players paying over market value
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He says with a straight face after giving up a 100m package for a one season wonder from the Portuguese league
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Yes as we are going after coveted players from a position of strength already like United used to do. It's different. Also he's not a one season wonder, although not that it matters, Rooney a one season wonder before United bought him, coveted by others but United in the best position to get him. In two seasons at 21/22 he scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. These were his only two seasons at the top level so he's clearly taken to it well. Also no idea where you got 100m from unless you're trying to be clever and using a different currency. Although this just has the opposite effect and makes you look an idiot, which is a familiar trait you're know for.
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You do realize you’ll be paying Lisbon in Euros and the total deal is worth 100m€ or are you thick?
Coveted? By who? You had a free run at him.
You can’t on the one hand trash other teams targets in lesser leagues and then stand behind his league total too. I mean you’re a Liverpool fan so hypocrisy is lost on you to be fair.
You went out and paid Wel over the odds for a kid who scored in a sub par league, 3 tap ins in the CL, a header against ironically a team you called a subpar team and then scored two goals after some shambolic defending by your own team.
Def worth 100m overall.
kinda funny the team that doesn’t spend money did that, oh and we don’t break our salary structure….when Ronaldo goes you’ll have the highest paid footballer in the UK.
Another bout of hypocrisy
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Wow. This guy is as thick as two short planks. I shall not be engaging. Go play with some other idiot on your level.
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So you didn’t agree a €100m deal
Portuguese league isn’t sub par
You fought off competition from Nunez
He didn’t score a penalty, two tap ins, a header against Ajax who every time we’re linked with one of their players they’re sub par and 2 goals v Liverpool involving a missed clearance and some more world class defending from TAA?
Yeah, call someone an idiot because you can’t argue back.
posted on 3/7/22
Nunez will knock in 20 goals and you'll look silly again.
posted on 3/7/22
I'd obviously love Nunez to be a humiliating flop but Liverpool's data/scouting operation has been world class for years, and consistently picking out players that fit their needs like a glove. Minamino is the only player I can think of who really hasn't worked out, and even he wasn't expensive and wasn't shiitte, just couldn't compete with the established players.
I wasn't sure whether Nunez was the real deal a few months ago. When Liverpool went in for him I assumed he probably is.
posted on 3/7/22
If he scores 100 goals over the next five years I'll be happy enough.
Not going to lie I was really happy with how Jota has got on but bringing in Nunez and Diaz while Salah signs an has got me buzzing.
posted on 3/7/22
an extension*
posted on 3/7/22
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
posted on 3/7/22
Bought Alisson with only one season at Roma under his belt tbf.
Considering he is our record signing I'd be amazed if they didn't see something very good or even special in him.
He's a full international who now starts for a more then decent Uruguay side don't forget.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
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As I said to that idiot above it was one season. Over two seasons he has scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. At 21/22 years old. He has progressed each season scoring one in two in La Liga2, keeping around that rate in his first season in Portugal, with league goals and Europa League goals and then going up a level again last season with league goals and CL goals. He has been hitting the numbers and showing huge potential to still improve. Of course you don't know how that's going to translate in the first season after a step up to the PL but then the same could be said for most transfers into the PL.
To say ''off the back of one season'' is disingenuous to say the least. He would have been signed based on his current figures but more so due to the potential the club obviously think he has.
I haven't seen much of him myself but his figures are great and the club have been great in the market since Klopp came in, so I'm confident.
Idiots like that imbecile above have made these claims for years, we had it with Mane, with Salah, with VVD and a host of others. Of course nobody brings up what their opinions at the time were now.
It's not like we were short of options, we could have signed most strikers in the world for the fee and wages we paid and most would have came. Different situation than the one United are in.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 11 minutes ago
Most of their debt is long term, and down to the Bernabeu. Financially they are fine, I don’t know why you keep putting them in the same bracket as Barca when nothing indicates that.
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No no no, I’m not suggesting that they’re in the kind of immediate predicament, or nearly as serious a predicament, that Barca are. Tbf, Barca are in a league of their own (in Spain, at least) there.
Real obviously have both cash, and (presently, comfortably enough) the means to service their debt. But they have had to rein in their transfer spending and cut their wage bill over the last few seasons, are still having to work to cut operating costs, and are about to be whacked with an additional €30m p/a in interest payments against the stadium debt.
They’re potentially a couple of average seasons away from having to make some difficult decisions.
I don’t want to overstate it; I know they aren’t anywhere near Barca - at all. But they’ll want to get that debt under control. It’s vast, and becoming more of a burden.
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It’s not really, though. And they haven’t even benefited yet from the increased revenue that the Bernabeu will bring. They are basically like United with the debt we have. It’s not ideal but it’s far from financially damaging, particularly given revenues. And Madrid are as close to a guarantee of being in the CL knock out stages every single year.
posted on 3/7/22
I wouldn’t argue that United are in a particularly sensible position either though. They’re still spaffing a decent transfer’s worth of interest payments up the wall every season whilst the debt continues to grow.
Anyway, for now, I am content enough to reserve the belly laughs for Barca, Benfica and Porto.
I guess at least the latter two know how to, and seem to be able to continue to, pull in (the necessary) seriously good money from transfer outgoings.
posted on 3/7/22
Yeah but when you describe it as a world of debt pain, it would suggest it’s a bad position to be in. Spurs would probably be a better comparison actually anyway. Except Madrid’s revenues are much higher and they are guaranteed CL money.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Nunez may well be a success and like Russian said Liverpool usually know what they're doing but they are buying him off the pack of 1 season which does seem risky.
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As I said to that idiot above it was one season. Over two seasons he has scored and assisted 45 goals in 55 league games, 6 in 10 CL games and 6 in 7 Europa League games. At 21/22 years old. He has progressed each season scoring one in two in La Liga2, keeping around that rate in his first season in Portugal, with league goals and Europa League goals and then going up a level again last season with league goals and CL goals. He has been hitting the numbers and showing huge potential to still improve. Of course you don't know how that's going to translate in the first season after a step up to the PL but then the same could be said for most transfers into the PL.
To say ''off the back of one season'' is disingenuous to say the least. He would have been signed based on his current figures but more so due to the potential the club obviously think he has.
I haven't seen much of him myself but his figures are great and the club have been great in the market since Klopp came in, so I'm confident.
Idiots like that imbecile above have made these claims for years, we had it with Mane, with Salah, with VVD and a host of others. Of course nobody brings up what their opinions at the time were now.
It's not like we were short of options, we could have signed most strikers in the world for the fee and wages we paid and most would have came. Different situation than the one United are in.
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He scored 14 in 44 total appearances in the first year of this 2 seasons you refer to.
He then scored 34 last season, 26 of which were in a second rate league.
I’d hardly count his first season at Lisbon as proof he isn’t a one season wonder. Unless you think 14 in 44 games is proof otherwise
posted on 3/7/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
Yeah but when you describe it as a world of debt pain, it would suggest it’s a bad position to be in. Spurs would probably be a better comparison actually anyway. Except Madrid’s revenues are much higher and they are guaranteed CL money.
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Fair enough; “debt-pain” I should have reserved for Barca.
It’ll be intriguing to watch how Madrid behave the next few seasons, I think. If they keep hoovering up trophies, I’m sure all will be fine. If they slip a little and the fans start getting on Perez’s back for big money signings (with the inevitable accompanying big money contracts), it’ll be interesting to see how the management responds.
posted on 3/7/22
They’ve kinda moved away from that transfer model a long time ago. The money that the prem clubs and PSG have has made it so that it’s much more expensive for Madrid to dominate the market. Plus I suspect that Hazard, and Barca’s flops, have scared them off a bit buying players for £100+.
posted on 3/7/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
They’ve kinda moved away from that transfer model a long time ago. The money that the prem clubs and PSG have has made it so that it’s much more expensive for Madrid to dominate the market. Plus I suspect that Hazard, and Barca’s flops, have scared them off a bit buying players for £100+.
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For sure.
This window isn’t over yet, obviously, but weird to think that they’ve spent more than €30m on a single player only once over the last three summers.
Nobody would have believed that if you’d told them it’d happen even five years ago I reckon.
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