It seems to be since lockdown people have become more nasty and abusive.
From social media to driving on the roads decency and politeness are fast disappearing.
This Leeds site normally a welcoming and friendly site.
Let's keep it that way.
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Mattyp, I called you out because of your abusive posts.
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Thats just an out and out lie.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/409747
Here is the thread, its just you not knowing what the word hypocrit actually means.
But nice try to try and make yourself out as a victim when you started it.
If only there was a word for people who complain about something but then do then do it themselves...
It's pretty sad that someone has to create new accounts just to attack another poster, but it's just so obvious when it happens. It 's always the same pattern, 'new' user starts creating loads of pointless articles, commenting on everything, then finally starts having a dig at Jonty after a short while.
It's so weird, but so obvious who they are.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
Stop all the miserable, here is something to cheer you up.https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=475680994373479
comment by icub4me (U10576)
posted 3 minutes ago
Stop all the miserable, here is something to cheer you up.https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=475680994373479
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ive seen that man before, had no idea he disliked man utd as much as me..
comment by VOF - Have a nice day y'all ... (U17124)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people disagree at some point, no problem with that but little digs, starting threads just have a pop at someone, continual comments, lies, abuse etc, there just isn't any place for in a forum, if you want that forum to be healthy.
Spilling over into trying to create repetitional damage for someone online should be considered a crime. The impact of these things can be not inconsiderable, especially in an age where people get outraged so quickly, jump on bandwagons and normally with only one side of a story.
I'm relatively open about myself, name, where I live, profession, family and that's because I trust the people in the forum, the moment that trust disappears then the value of the forum disappears and I've discussed this a few times with admins when things were at their worst (fake accounts, calling my neighbours, calling my wife's work etc).
If I sense someone is going down that road even if its early stages, then they're filtered, thats' it, but to make spurious claims that I filter just because someone disagrees with me, well, you're a perfect example of that simply being a lie, a lie designed to influence other people negatively about me and it's wrong and I will call it out.
I blame trump. He poisoned the world. Respect is now a four letter word.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Embrace it, the name puts you on the map.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 22 hours, 55 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've never used either term.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
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you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
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Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
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you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
think you are both right, it was a well times tackle but even those can be lucky or unlucky due to a split second is all it would have taken to make the difference. Split second later it would have been a red and to be fair to llorente that is 2 brilliant tackles he has made in 2 games its a pity he ball watches too much from dead ball situations and loses his man. Even Kristensen who in my opinion has been poor so far has one brilliant tackle to his name in wolves game but that aside hasnt done much to warrant keeping his place but i suppose he can only get better
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I don't think it was a perfectly timed tackle, a perfectly timed tackle would have made a firmer contact to put the ball further out of harm's way and not caused the opponent to go down and put it under scrutiny.
A ref could have just as easily seen it as a foul, we'd have been upset about it, but it could happen and then we'd say he was unlucky,
The point is it can easily go either way and players who do this end up not getting away with it all the time and that is Llorente to a tee.
You might like him, I think he's a liability.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 14 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by VOF - Have a nice day y'all ... (U17124)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people disagree at some point, no problem with that but little digs, starting threads just have a pop at someone, continual comments, lies, abuse etc, there just isn't any place for in a forum, if you want that forum to be healthy.
Spilling over into trying to create repetitional damage for someone online should be considered a crime. The impact of these things can be not inconsiderable, especially in an age where people get outraged so quickly, jump on bandwagons and normally with only one side of a story.
I'm relatively open about myself, name, where I live, profession, family and that's because I trust the people in the forum, the moment that trust disappears then the value of the forum disappears and I've discussed this a few times with admins when things were at their worst (fake accounts, calling my neighbours, calling my wife's work etc).
If I sense someone is going down that road even if its early stages, then they're filtered, thats' it, but to make spurious claims that I filter just because someone disagrees with me, well, you're a perfect example of that simply being a lie, a lie designed to influence other people negatively about me and it's wrong and I will call it out.
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lol ... we've disagreed for sure .....
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
Jonty, wasn't referring to you mate.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 46 minutes ago
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
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I literally have no idea what you are on about. You are not allowed to go back to posts from a year ago?
What does that even mean?
And its very interesting that you say its there for all to see, yet on that thread, which you lied about being made because of my abusive posts not one person agree with you that I am abusive.
Odd that...
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posted on 14/8/22
It seems to be since lockdown people have become more nasty and abusive.
From social media to driving on the roads decency and politeness are fast disappearing.
This Leeds site normally a welcoming and friendly site.
Let's keep it that way.
posted on 14/8/22
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
posted on 14/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Mattyp, I called you out because of your abusive posts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats just an out and out lie.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/409747
Here is the thread, its just you not knowing what the word hypocrit actually means.
But nice try to try and make yourself out as a victim when you started it.
If only there was a word for people who complain about something but then do then do it themselves...
posted on 15/8/22
It's pretty sad that someone has to create new accounts just to attack another poster, but it's just so obvious when it happens. It 's always the same pattern, 'new' user starts creating loads of pointless articles, commenting on everything, then finally starts having a dig at Jonty after a short while.
It's so weird, but so obvious who they are.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
posted on 15/8/22
Stop all the miserable, here is something to cheer you up.https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=475680994373479
posted on 15/8/22
comment by icub4me (U10576)
posted 3 minutes ago
Stop all the miserable, here is something to cheer you up.https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=475680994373479
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ive seen that man before, had no idea he disliked man utd as much as me..
posted on 15/8/22
comment by VOF - Have a nice day y'all ... (U17124)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most people disagree at some point, no problem with that but little digs, starting threads just have a pop at someone, continual comments, lies, abuse etc, there just isn't any place for in a forum, if you want that forum to be healthy.
Spilling over into trying to create repetitional damage for someone online should be considered a crime. The impact of these things can be not inconsiderable, especially in an age where people get outraged so quickly, jump on bandwagons and normally with only one side of a story.
I'm relatively open about myself, name, where I live, profession, family and that's because I trust the people in the forum, the moment that trust disappears then the value of the forum disappears and I've discussed this a few times with admins when things were at their worst (fake accounts, calling my neighbours, calling my wife's work etc).
If I sense someone is going down that road even if its early stages, then they're filtered, thats' it, but to make spurious claims that I filter just because someone disagrees with me, well, you're a perfect example of that simply being a lie, a lie designed to influence other people negatively about me and it's wrong and I will call it out.
posted on 15/8/22
I blame trump. He poisoned the world. Respect is now a four letter word.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Embrace it, the name puts you on the map.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 22 hours, 55 minutes ago
The fact that I'm referred to as"lowlife" and The Donn as"dong" is itself insulting and abusive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've never used either term.
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
think you are both right, it was a well times tackle but even those can be lucky or unlucky due to a split second is all it would have taken to make the difference. Split second later it would have been a red and to be fair to llorente that is 2 brilliant tackles he has made in 2 games its a pity he ball watches too much from dead ball situations and loses his man. Even Kristensen who in my opinion has been poor so far has one brilliant tackle to his name in wolves game but that aside hasnt done much to warrant keeping his place but i suppose he can only get better
posted on 15/8/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
You're saying he is lucky, I am saying he timed the tackle to perfection, you are not giving him any credit for doing what he is paid to do. If you coach someone to do something and they do it, is that luck?
He wasn't in position to make the challenge a second earlier, a second later because Armstrong has the beating of him in a foot race the challenge ends in him bringing his man down or he is away bearing down on goal. Perfectly timed.
Cannot see why you feel Koch had a decent game when neither CB covered themselves in glory, most pundits feel that Llorente was marginally the better.
That said I have seen hugely varying assessments on most players out there, Dan James for example scores between 2 and 6.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you said a fraction late he gets a red card ie unlucky, I'm saying he was lucky.
I really don't see it as a big deal, but if you do and choose to see it another way, no problem, we all see things slightly differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think it was a perfectly timed tackle, or, as "lucky" implies, do you think he fouled his man and therefore got away with one? If you agree that the tackle was perfectly timed why throw the word lucky in there, if on the other hand you think he fouled his man, then that's an OK viewpoint to have but we are clearly have different viewpoints. I think that Llorente comes in for a lot of stick from the ER faithful and your use of the word lucky is a reflection of that. This article is "my thoughts on today". So own if you think it was a foul.
If the ref had sent Llorente off, VAR could not have overturned it because it was borderline, would you have argued that he was unlucky to be sent off?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I don't think it was a perfectly timed tackle, a perfectly timed tackle would have made a firmer contact to put the ball further out of harm's way and not caused the opponent to go down and put it under scrutiny.
A ref could have just as easily seen it as a foul, we'd have been upset about it, but it could happen and then we'd say he was unlucky,
The point is it can easily go either way and players who do this end up not getting away with it all the time and that is Llorente to a tee.
You might like him, I think he's a liability.
posted on 16/8/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 14 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by VOF - Have a nice day y'all ... (U17124)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bishop's lovechild (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Jonty.. I'm so sorry you have had to endure what you have just described...I had no idea!
These people that do this clearly have some serious mental health issues... It's incredible but sadly a poor reflection on the state of society we seem to be living in. No boundaries, No discipline and a total sense of entitlement!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I look at how some people try and shame others by contacting their employers etc and think I got off relatively lightly, but people are jealous, spiteful, want to reputation ally damage and in my experience the sooner you just ignore and filter/block/whatever mechanism your social channels allow the better.
Invariably the perpetrators complain about free speech, but if they hadn't abused their free speech rights in the first place.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've disagreed, argued ... but searching out your employer - or any other type of personal info, just to take a pop or try and report something .... that drifts into creepy.
I know you like tennis, from dialogue I've an idea (very roughly) where you live (I lived in that area years ago, if i've worked it out correctly). I like footy, rugby (either code) and live in Bradford, work for NHS with work all over the internet if you're ever suffering with insomnia ... so we're about even on that sort of info. Would i ever try to dig more up ... nah, simply got better things to do and a tad more respect than to go down that route.
Lockdown, Brexit, partygate .... social media is a cesspit of intolerance, depending on which view you take of life. I try to stay away, life's too short for that nonsense.
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Most people disagree at some point, no problem with that but little digs, starting threads just have a pop at someone, continual comments, lies, abuse etc, there just isn't any place for in a forum, if you want that forum to be healthy.
Spilling over into trying to create repetitional damage for someone online should be considered a crime. The impact of these things can be not inconsiderable, especially in an age where people get outraged so quickly, jump on bandwagons and normally with only one side of a story.
I'm relatively open about myself, name, where I live, profession, family and that's because I trust the people in the forum, the moment that trust disappears then the value of the forum disappears and I've discussed this a few times with admins when things were at their worst (fake accounts, calling my neighbours, calling my wife's work etc).
If I sense someone is going down that road even if its early stages, then they're filtered, thats' it, but to make spurious claims that I filter just because someone disagrees with me, well, you're a perfect example of that simply being a lie, a lie designed to influence other people negatively about me and it's wrong and I will call it out.
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lol ... we've disagreed for sure .....
posted on 16/8/22
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
posted on 16/8/22
Jonty, wasn't referring to you mate.
posted on 16/8/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 46 minutes ago
Mattyp, so I can't refer to a post 12 months previously, but it's okay for you to go back 3 year's. Hypocrite.
Also the venom and hate you spout is there for all to see.
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I literally have no idea what you are on about. You are not allowed to go back to posts from a year ago?
What does that even mean?
And its very interesting that you say its there for all to see, yet on that thread, which you lied about being made because of my abusive posts not one person agree with you that I am abusive.
Odd that...
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