Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I never thought I'd say this as I don't believe in socialism in its purest form. It tends to stop enterprise and bring any economy to a grinding halt but given what's now happening with the fuel crisis, we have to look at renationalising.
This is nothing to do with inflation. It's everything to do with Gazprom in Russia no longer being the competitive alternative so the current suppliers know they've got us by the nuts. If you corner the market, you can raise the price beyond inflationary levels. It's how every capitalist movement begins to eat itself to death. What follows this will be catastrophic. Services, including the NHS grinding to a halt before socialism begins to take hold. I think it'll be another 10 years before we see ourselves out of this mess and with no EU ties, climbing back up the ladder is going to be a real struggle. I think we're entering an age of poverty and destruction the likes of which this country has never truly known, not in the last century or so anyway.
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Where the media also gets completely confused is the narrative around energy suppliers. You’re right, there’s a big difference between the oil and gas extraction companies like Shell, Total and Gazprom (who also have retail arms of course) and the energy retailers - 30 of whom went bust last year because of the price cap stopping them passing increasing costs to customers.
The retail arms of energy suppliers in the U.K. are not making money. Most of them (particularly the big 6) have been loss making for years. Yes other areas of their global business (Centrica and eon for eg) make large profits which should be used to support customers but it’s the oil and gas shippers that are absolutely raking it in right now not the retailers.
The media have us believe that energy suppliers are the ones rolling in it and therefore we need to nationalise them asap. If we nationalised the big 6 for example, it would make very little difference to where we are now. The government would still have to source imported gas at record prices and wouldn’t be able to cover the cost to consumers.
What the government should be doing is increasing the windfall tax on oil and gas extraction and then forcing large corporate suppliers to use the profits from their other activities to support vulnerable customers.
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Really informative couple of comments
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 43 minutes ago
There isn't a single politician in government or opposition that thinks Brexit was a good idea. Those that publicly back it are only doing so as part of some sort of self-serving bastardry. All those currently in favour of Brexit, were at one stage or another, supporters of Britain in the EU. It's nonsensical to think otherwise.
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Brainwashed by Farage and the far right.
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Farage should be hung, drawn and quartered
Heard jack shiiiite from him these last few years - the sniffling rat that he is
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
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Mine is probably a slightly more selfish approach than my dad's. His is to vote for those less fortunate and my philosophy is "what if I lose my job and things start to go wrong? I want to make sure there's a system in place to support my downfall." Fundamentally they're the same but I guess mine is still shrouded in the same self-preservation ethos that many conservatives uphold, just for very different reasons.
I'd feel dirty voting for that lot. I could never, ever do it, no matter how unelectable Labour have been over the last 10 years or so.
Voting Tory now would be unpatriotic
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
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There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
comment by Citizen Smeg. North London is alwhite (U6574)
posted 2 minutes ago
Voting Tory now would be unpatriotic
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I don't know why people are even talking about voting as if it's had any effect whatsoever or will have any effect going forwards.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
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Nobody knows what's best for people as a whole, and we live in a World where most people can't afford to think about it.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
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There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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half the population are obese
the next few years should solve that problem
silver lining to every cloud and all that
People like to simplify to a narrative of evil Tory and stupid voters. But if it takes the country to get to this point before people vote for an opposition party that speaks volumes about the opposition parties.
Keir and his cronies are not coming to the rescue.
And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
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There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
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The reason Britain got to be a 'shining light' is because it went and pillaged other Countries and enslaved its citizens. Easy to foster freedom and democracy under those circumstances. Lets see what happens when resources are scarce.
You are talking about measuring a society by it's weakest and vulnerable in one sentence and slapping a little fecker in another
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
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The reason Britain got to be a 'shining light' is because it went and pillaged other Countries and enslaved its citizens. Easy to foster freedom and democracy under those circumstances. Lets see what happens when resources are scarce.
You are talking about measuring a society by it's weakest and vulnerable in one sentence and slapping a little fecker in another
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I see, it seems we've got ourselves a little philosophy student hellbent on using colonialism as a rationale to defend your argument. When you have to dig that far back in order to redress the balance, it strikes me that you're just a contrary Mary looking for the flaw, however vague and distanced it might be.
The irritating little fecker I worked with was not one of societies weakest and most vulnerable. He was a designer on a feckload of dosh.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 32 seconds ago
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Nope not a student, someone who still holds onto the opinion of their 'Dad' probably is
though.
Slapping little feckers, opinions being frankly staggering, huge big crisis coming our way.
You're a tad dramatic aren't you? Clearly you have no idea all these scary headlines in the media are specifically written to get your attention. This isn't a moral argument you're making, you've realised that your future is fecked and you don't like it.
Well, welcome to life pal, unless you were a boomer who burned up all the resources in the past 40 years it ain't some kind of picnic.
where I live my monthly utilities bill has four categories:
1. Gas
2. Electricity
3. Water
4. Refuse collection.
Guess which one costs the most during the summer months.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 32 seconds ago
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Nope not a student, someone who still holds onto the opinion of their 'Dad' probably is
though.
Slapping little feckers, opinions being frankly staggering, huge big crisis coming our way.
You're a tad dramatic aren't you? Clearly you have no idea all these scary headlines in the media are specifically written to get your attention. This isn't a moral argument you're making, you've realised that your future is fecked and you don't like it.
Well, welcome to life pal, unless you were a boomer who burned up all the resources in the past 40 years it ain't some kind of picnic.
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comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
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Yeh it's all Labour's fault!!!!! Tories have been in power 12 years, about time you and them owned their own mess.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
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Yeh it's all Labour's fault!!!!! Tories have been in power 12 years, about time you and them owned their own mess.
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I'm not a Tory, and I didn't say it was all Labours fault. I said they were also to blame for being such weak opposition. Do you not understand how politics works?
Starmer too busy taking knee to hold the govt to account . What a PM he'll make.
I think storms would make a fine pm. He literally cannot be worse than Johnson, may or Cameron.
I’m not even a life long Labour supporter. I can just see the state 12 years of Tory rule has done to my own family and the country around me.
Kick them out. Time for change.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 hours, 28 minutes ago
Starmer too busy taking knee to hold the govt to account . What a PM he'll make.
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He should be applauded for supporting racism. If a three second act of solidarity worries you so much, that says much more about you than Starmer.
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posted on 26/8/22
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I never thought I'd say this as I don't believe in socialism in its purest form. It tends to stop enterprise and bring any economy to a grinding halt but given what's now happening with the fuel crisis, we have to look at renationalising.
This is nothing to do with inflation. It's everything to do with Gazprom in Russia no longer being the competitive alternative so the current suppliers know they've got us by the nuts. If you corner the market, you can raise the price beyond inflationary levels. It's how every capitalist movement begins to eat itself to death. What follows this will be catastrophic. Services, including the NHS grinding to a halt before socialism begins to take hold. I think it'll be another 10 years before we see ourselves out of this mess and with no EU ties, climbing back up the ladder is going to be a real struggle. I think we're entering an age of poverty and destruction the likes of which this country has never truly known, not in the last century or so anyway.
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Where the media also gets completely confused is the narrative around energy suppliers. You’re right, there’s a big difference between the oil and gas extraction companies like Shell, Total and Gazprom (who also have retail arms of course) and the energy retailers - 30 of whom went bust last year because of the price cap stopping them passing increasing costs to customers.
The retail arms of energy suppliers in the U.K. are not making money. Most of them (particularly the big 6) have been loss making for years. Yes other areas of their global business (Centrica and eon for eg) make large profits which should be used to support customers but it’s the oil and gas shippers that are absolutely raking it in right now not the retailers.
The media have us believe that energy suppliers are the ones rolling in it and therefore we need to nationalise them asap. If we nationalised the big 6 for example, it would make very little difference to where we are now. The government would still have to source imported gas at record prices and wouldn’t be able to cover the cost to consumers.
What the government should be doing is increasing the windfall tax on oil and gas extraction and then forcing large corporate suppliers to use the profits from their other activities to support vulnerable customers.
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Really informative couple of comments
posted on 26/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 43 minutes ago
There isn't a single politician in government or opposition that thinks Brexit was a good idea. Those that publicly back it are only doing so as part of some sort of self-serving bastardry. All those currently in favour of Brexit, were at one stage or another, supporters of Britain in the EU. It's nonsensical to think otherwise.
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Brainwashed by Farage and the far right.
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Farage should be hung, drawn and quartered
Heard jack shiiiite from him these last few years - the sniffling rat that he is
posted on 26/8/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
posted on 26/8/22
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
posted on 26/8/22
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
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Mine is probably a slightly more selfish approach than my dad's. His is to vote for those less fortunate and my philosophy is "what if I lose my job and things start to go wrong? I want to make sure there's a system in place to support my downfall." Fundamentally they're the same but I guess mine is still shrouded in the same self-preservation ethos that many conservatives uphold, just for very different reasons.
I'd feel dirty voting for that lot. I could never, ever do it, no matter how unelectable Labour have been over the last 10 years or so.
posted on 26/8/22
Voting Tory now would be unpatriotic
posted on 26/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
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There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by Citizen Smeg. North London is alwhite (U6574)
posted 2 minutes ago
Voting Tory now would be unpatriotic
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I don't know why people are even talking about voting as if it's had any effect whatsoever or will have any effect going forwards.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
And those of us more fortunate should be fighting for those people. Always vote for those less fortunate than yourselves. That's what my dad always says. Just because this won't directly affect our way of life all that much, it will for some people and that's just not on.
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We live in a world where people vote for what is best for them and them only. Well, they believe it to be anyway.
People should vote on what is best for the people as a whole. Or that's what decent people should do anyway
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Nobody knows what's best for people as a whole, and we live in a World where most people can't afford to think about it.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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half the population are obese
the next few years should solve that problem
silver lining to every cloud and all that
posted on 26/8/22
People like to simplify to a narrative of evil Tory and stupid voters. But if it takes the country to get to this point before people vote for an opposition party that speaks volumes about the opposition parties.
Keir and his cronies are not coming to the rescue.
posted on 26/8/22
And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
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The reason Britain got to be a 'shining light' is because it went and pillaged other Countries and enslaved its citizens. Easy to foster freedom and democracy under those circumstances. Lets see what happens when resources are scarce.
You are talking about measuring a society by it's weakest and vulnerable in one sentence and slapping a little fecker in another
posted on 26/8/22
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Anyway, as with Covid, the press are ramping all this up at the moment. The looming turmoil won't be as bad as anyone makes it out to be.
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Try telling that to those already using food banks. I imagine, for them, it's going to be impossible. Someone I know who is entrenched in the support system said that there's a very real issue now because food banks exists because people with a little more money are kind enough to give. The fuel crisis and cost of living has slowed down that charitable endeavour. In short, food banks are empty.
There's absolutely no other way of dressing this up. People will die over this period and it won't just be about old people and heating. It will have a knock on effect. People will starve. Children with be malnourished. In Britain. 'Great Britain'. Yeah, right!!!!
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There's people malnourished all over the World. Nothing special about Britain.
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Yeah, that's a good idea, measure our achievements by the low bar. Nice one. Britain, along with the US, are the world leaders in freedom and democracy. We should be the shining light to the rest of the world in how to treat its citizens, not pointing at poor countries saying we're still marginally better than them. Someone at work who lived in South Africa for a while once said that people in this country have no idea what poverty is and that we should be making it even harder for them not easier. I nearly slapped the little fecker. What a horrible attitude.
A society is measured by its weakest and most vulnerable citizens so the idea that you don't have a problem with malnourishment here on the basis other THIRD WORLD countries have it worse is frankly staggering mate.
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The reason Britain got to be a 'shining light' is because it went and pillaged other Countries and enslaved its citizens. Easy to foster freedom and democracy under those circumstances. Lets see what happens when resources are scarce.
You are talking about measuring a society by it's weakest and vulnerable in one sentence and slapping a little fecker in another
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I see, it seems we've got ourselves a little philosophy student hellbent on using colonialism as a rationale to defend your argument. When you have to dig that far back in order to redress the balance, it strikes me that you're just a contrary Mary looking for the flaw, however vague and distanced it might be.
The irritating little fecker I worked with was not one of societies weakest and most vulnerable. He was a designer on a feckload of dosh.
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Nope not a student, someone who still holds onto the opinion of their 'Dad' probably is
though.
Slapping little feckers, opinions being frankly staggering, huge big crisis coming our way.
You're a tad dramatic aren't you? Clearly you have no idea all these scary headlines in the media are specifically written to get your attention. This isn't a moral argument you're making, you've realised that your future is fecked and you don't like it.
Well, welcome to life pal, unless you were a boomer who burned up all the resources in the past 40 years it ain't some kind of picnic.
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where I live my monthly utilities bill has four categories:
1. Gas
2. Electricity
3. Water
4. Refuse collection.
Guess which one costs the most during the summer months.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 32 seconds ago
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Nope not a student, someone who still holds onto the opinion of their 'Dad' probably is
though.
Slapping little feckers, opinions being frankly staggering, huge big crisis coming our way.
You're a tad dramatic aren't you? Clearly you have no idea all these scary headlines in the media are specifically written to get your attention. This isn't a moral argument you're making, you've realised that your future is fecked and you don't like it.
Well, welcome to life pal, unless you were a boomer who burned up all the resources in the past 40 years it ain't some kind of picnic.
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posted on 26/8/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
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Yeh it's all Labour's fault!!!!! Tories have been in power 12 years, about time you and them owned their own mess.
posted on 26/8/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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And Corbyn and his tone deaf campaign are also to blame for this mess. If he couldn't oust the Tories at the last election then he got something seriously wrong.
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Yeh it's all Labour's fault!!!!! Tories have been in power 12 years, about time you and them owned their own mess.
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I'm not a Tory, and I didn't say it was all Labours fault. I said they were also to blame for being such weak opposition. Do you not understand how politics works?
posted on 26/8/22
Starmer too busy taking knee to hold the govt to account . What a PM he'll make.
posted on 26/8/22
I think storms would make a fine pm. He literally cannot be worse than Johnson, may or Cameron.
I’m not even a life long Labour supporter. I can just see the state 12 years of Tory rule has done to my own family and the country around me.
Kick them out. Time for change.
posted on 27/8/22
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Starmer too busy taking knee to hold the govt to account . What a PM he'll make.
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He should be applauded for supporting racism. If a three second act of solidarity worries you so much, that says much more about you than Starmer.
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