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It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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I am far from a royalist but the Queen was the head of state. The Monarch. Who reigned for 70 years.
A period of national mourning and the cancellation of particular events was an absolute given.
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Was it? I only found out 15 minutes ago.
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Anyone with a modicum of common sense understood there was going to be a period of mourning etc.
It was also documented (from the 1960's onwards) in Operation London Bridge.
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posted 24 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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I mean that's the bottom line.
People are upset, something that meant something has gone. So they feel grief. You have to have a character flaw to judge them for it cos it meant little to you.
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
Is boxing still going ahead? All women's card with arguably the biggest female fight happening. They might struggle to get that one cancelled.
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Have you watched the latest press conference where they were doing impressions of each other?
They deserve a stage just for those, brilliant stuff
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Link
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https://youtu.be/NgUpmGc7TUc
https://youtu.be/IBRUKeNe4Lw
Government themselves gave go ahead but governing bodies think otherwise. To the above, forced grieving is the problem for some. If anyone wants to grieve and not watch a game of football or play a game of football they can freely do so without stopping the rest.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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Where do you get the idea that you have to know someone personally to grieve for them?
People grieve loss of all sorts of things. It's a natural, healthy, human reaction. It's not about knowing the queen personally, it's about what she represented for many people. Many people will be confronting their own mortality and the changing face of the Country they live in.
It's anything but measured to not be able to understand this. In fact it's pretty freakin sociopathic.
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I know what grief is. I've felt it. Real grief. On a sliding scale, the death of the queen sits on the mildest of mourning levels for most on account of the fact that she's not someone any of us mere mortals ever knew. That's what limits how far grief can real travel under those circumstances.
Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death weren't suffering from grief in my opinion. They were swept up in the national hysteria that followed her, albeit tragic, death.
It's actually the antithesis of sociopathic to understand the difference between the two nuanced slants of emotional behaviour.
Even if the PL and EFL continued this weekend, it's unlikely any matches would be able to go ahead in London.
As MK has already pointed out.
'Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death...'
Instagram didn't even exist then either.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
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It is what it is. The passing of a monarch is a momentous moment.
These people will survive two weeks without football.
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posted 13 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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Where do you get the idea that you have to know someone personally to grieve for them?
People grieve loss of all sorts of things. It's a natural, healthy, human reaction. It's not about knowing the queen personally, it's about what she represented for many people. Many people will be confronting their own mortality and the changing face of the Country they live in.
It's anything but measured to not be able to understand this. In fact it's pretty freakin sociopathic.
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I know what grief is. I've felt it. Real grief. On a sliding scale, the death of the queen sits on the mildest of mourning levels for most on account of the fact that she's not someone any of us mere mortals ever knew. That's what limits how far grief can real travel under those circumstances.
Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death weren't suffering from grief in my opinion. They were swept up in the national hysteria that followed her, albeit tragic, death.
It's actually the antithesis of sociopathic to understand the difference between the two nuanced slants of emotional behaviour.
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Oh you've felt real grief. Well done, like nearly everybody else on this planet. You're really not that special you know.
Some people will grieve for the Queen more than a family member. Why is that? Because people assign different meanings to different things.
Only someone with sociopathic tendencies would think their own nuanced distinctions between meanings are correct.
You could also say that people will survive the passing of a monarch too... the point being there should be the freedom to do one or the other or both.
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
Ffs every channel here in Oz has a queen's death special on right now. It's like they've been gleefully waiting for this opportunity for years, no doubt raking in plenty of ad revenue etc.
Now the football has been cancelled. The woman had a great life, better than almost anyone on the planet and then died at 96. What's to mourn here?
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posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
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It is what it is. The passing of a monarch is a momentous moment.
These people will survive two weeks without football.
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Could happily survive without a monarchy too, but that’s for another day.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 1 minute ago
You could also say that people will survive the passing of a monarch too... the point being there should be the freedom to do one or the other or both.
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Well on a practical level there will be lots of people round London and Berkshire tomorrow so congestion is one reason
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
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If it doesn't then there shouldn't really be any issue with those asking things not be cancelled..
Agree policing might be an issue here but government themselves doesn't seem to think so and if its just that then why has it gone down to grassroot football too
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
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If it doesn't then there shouldn't really be any issue with those asking things not be cancelled..
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Who are they asking?
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Queen - I Want To Break Free
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Who Wants to Live Forever
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Ladies and Gents, we have a winner.
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Queen - Another Bites The Dust
Queen - Killer Queen
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 58 seconds ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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Great point
Plus open top bus parades that probably annoy the fack out of motorists who don’t care about football
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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It’s a shame we couldn’t have the World Cup final on the day of the Queen’s funeral, see who gets the biggest viewing figures
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 58 seconds ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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Great point
Plus open top bus parades that probably annoy the fack out of motorists who don’t care about football
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No this is MY country MY football team MY grass roots I WANT ANSWERS
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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It's not really the same. Football gets a lot of attention due to high demand. The football community isn't demanding other activities are curtailed or cancelled in order to make more space for football.
If there were a logistical reason that football couldn't go ahead because it prevented people from expressing their mourning in some way, that would be a valid reason to cancel football matches in the same way that trophy parades might close streets for a few hours, and I don't think many fans would begrudge that.
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posted on 9/9/22
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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I am far from a royalist but the Queen was the head of state. The Monarch. Who reigned for 70 years.
A period of national mourning and the cancellation of particular events was an absolute given.
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Was it? I only found out 15 minutes ago.
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Anyone with a modicum of common sense understood there was going to be a period of mourning etc.
It was also documented (from the 1960's onwards) in Operation London Bridge.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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I mean that's the bottom line.
People are upset, something that meant something has gone. So they feel grief. You have to have a character flaw to judge them for it cos it meant little to you.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
Is boxing still going ahead? All women's card with arguably the biggest female fight happening. They might struggle to get that one cancelled.
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Have you watched the latest press conference where they were doing impressions of each other?
They deserve a stage just for those, brilliant stuff
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Link
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https://youtu.be/NgUpmGc7TUc
https://youtu.be/IBRUKeNe4Lw
posted on 9/9/22
Government themselves gave go ahead but governing bodies think otherwise. To the above, forced grieving is the problem for some. If anyone wants to grieve and not watch a game of football or play a game of football they can freely do so without stopping the rest.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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Where do you get the idea that you have to know someone personally to grieve for them?
People grieve loss of all sorts of things. It's a natural, healthy, human reaction. It's not about knowing the queen personally, it's about what she represented for many people. Many people will be confronting their own mortality and the changing face of the Country they live in.
It's anything but measured to not be able to understand this. In fact it's pretty freakin sociopathic.
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I know what grief is. I've felt it. Real grief. On a sliding scale, the death of the queen sits on the mildest of mourning levels for most on account of the fact that she's not someone any of us mere mortals ever knew. That's what limits how far grief can real travel under those circumstances.
Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death weren't suffering from grief in my opinion. They were swept up in the national hysteria that followed her, albeit tragic, death.
It's actually the antithesis of sociopathic to understand the difference between the two nuanced slants of emotional behaviour.
posted on 9/9/22
Even if the PL and EFL continued this weekend, it's unlikely any matches would be able to go ahead in London.
As MK has already pointed out.
posted on 9/9/22
'Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death...'
Instagram didn't even exist then either.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
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It is what it is. The passing of a monarch is a momentous moment.
These people will survive two weeks without football.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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Where do you get the idea that you have to know someone personally to grieve for them?
People grieve loss of all sorts of things. It's a natural, healthy, human reaction. It's not about knowing the queen personally, it's about what she represented for many people. Many people will be confronting their own mortality and the changing face of the Country they live in.
It's anything but measured to not be able to understand this. In fact it's pretty freakin sociopathic.
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I know what grief is. I've felt it. Real grief. On a sliding scale, the death of the queen sits on the mildest of mourning levels for most on account of the fact that she's not someone any of us mere mortals ever knew. That's what limits how far grief can real travel under those circumstances.
Back in 97 the millions that travelled to central london to lay flowers and sob uncontrollably over Diana's death weren't suffering from grief in my opinion. They were swept up in the national hysteria that followed her, albeit tragic, death.
It's actually the antithesis of sociopathic to understand the difference between the two nuanced slants of emotional behaviour.
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Oh you've felt real grief. Well done, like nearly everybody else on this planet. You're really not that special you know.
Some people will grieve for the Queen more than a family member. Why is that? Because people assign different meanings to different things.
Only someone with sociopathic tendencies would think their own nuanced distinctions between meanings are correct.
posted on 9/9/22
You could also say that people will survive the passing of a monarch too... the point being there should be the freedom to do one or the other or both.
posted on 9/9/22
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
posted on 9/9/22
Ffs every channel here in Oz has a queen's death special on right now. It's like they've been gleefully waiting for this opportunity for years, no doubt raking in plenty of ad revenue etc.
Now the football has been cancelled. The woman had a great life, better than almost anyone on the planet and then died at 96. What's to mourn here?
posted on 9/9/22
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
posted on 9/9/22
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
It's frankly ridiculous. Most people are measured enough to not really feel a sense of grief for someone they've never actually met. To cancel all sport or entertainment events is just moronic. Not all of us are blue-rinsed royalists drowning in a sea of tears.
That's it now. Terrestrial telly is out of bounds for a couple of weeks because an old lady of 96 has died. Sad for her family but if anyone out there that has never met her claims they're grieving? Sorry, they're not. It's just mass hysteria. Saw the same thing with Diana but that was far more tragic.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger died I'd be hella upset, I've never met him.
The queen is a bigger deal than my man Arnold, for people around the world.
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Would you be sobbing? Inconsolable? Unable to move on? No, I didn't think so. You'd be a little upset as many of us would be if one of our own personal childhood heroes died. I would if anything happened to Gazza but you know what? I'd go about my day and wouldn't expect the world to stop. It's not real grief. Real grief is felt when someone actually in your life dies and that's no more potent than a wife, husband, son or daughter. Not someone you've never met that makes no discernible difference to your life.
It's the forced grieving I take issue with. Every sporting event, every channel, everything stops. It's just absurd.
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Who says it’s forced. Many people are incredibly upset.
If you don’t care or you don’t want to grieve that’s fine, but let people who do want to go ahead.
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They have to have no football to grieve?
Yeah forced.
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It is what it is. The passing of a monarch is a momentous moment.
These people will survive two weeks without football.
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Could happily survive without a monarchy too, but that’s for another day.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 1 minute ago
You could also say that people will survive the passing of a monarch too... the point being there should be the freedom to do one or the other or both.
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Well on a practical level there will be lots of people round London and Berkshire tomorrow so congestion is one reason
posted on 9/9/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
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If it doesn't then there shouldn't really be any issue with those asking things not be cancelled..
posted on 9/9/22
Agree policing might be an issue here but government themselves doesn't seem to think so and if its just that then why has it gone down to grassroot football too
posted on 9/9/22
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 22 seconds ago
Yes but those truly grieving for the Queen, why does it bother them that others might not be on the same boat? It's a flawed argument.
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Who says that it does?
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If it doesn't then there shouldn't really be any issue with those asking things not be cancelled..
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Who are they asking?
posted on 9/9/22
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Pun - Pranks is my draft Daddy, he’s just a punderful guy (U21588)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
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Queen - I Want To Break Free
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Who Wants to Live Forever
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Ladies and Gents, we have a winner.
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Queen - Another Bites The Dust
Queen - Killer Queen
posted on 9/9/22
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
posted on 9/9/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 58 seconds ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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Great point
Plus open top bus parades that probably annoy the fack out of motorists who don’t care about football
posted on 9/9/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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It’s a shame we couldn’t have the World Cup final on the day of the Queen’s funeral, see who gets the biggest viewing figures
posted on 9/9/22
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 58 seconds ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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Great point
Plus open top bus parades that probably annoy the fack out of motorists who don’t care about football
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No this is MY country MY football team MY grass roots I WANT ANSWERS
posted on 9/9/22
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
You couldn't make this up really. Football fans taking exception to national events inconveniencing them with all the hysteria that goes on around football, especially World cups which many have to put up with.
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It's not really the same. Football gets a lot of attention due to high demand. The football community isn't demanding other activities are curtailed or cancelled in order to make more space for football.
If there were a logistical reason that football couldn't go ahead because it prevented people from expressing their mourning in some way, that would be a valid reason to cancel football matches in the same way that trophy parades might close streets for a few hours, and I don't think many fans would begrudge that.
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