More fool Conte for not trying to outscore the opposition with your defence then.
He just seems like he’s biding his time until he gets a better offer.
Can’t expect him to be that committed to “the project” if he doesn’t even know what it is.
I have sympathy for anyone who loses somebody they were close to but I find it hard to have much feeling for a guy who makes it all about him when he's supposed to be leading a team !!!
Add that to his ridiculous stubbornness to stick to formation that clearly in outdated in the PL, and totally unsuitable for the players at his disposal and I have no time for the guy... I want him out.... He appears uncommitted, the players look unmotivated, he's full of excuses and the football is pathetic !!! I fully expected to get hammered and Thurs and I think he'll be gone by the weekend.
I have no clue whether it's the right move but I fully expect Poch to be back managing Spurs by next week and for Levy & Co to do a couple of last minute deals in the window.
For what it's worth, I think this is why the Porro deal hasn't happened... No point signing a WB if the next manager is gonna revert back to 4231 or 433 (Please God !!!)
The Longer this window goes with us not making a signing I think spells the end for Conte. Another poor defeat and uninspired performance on Thurs will give Levy the ammo he needs to fire him and deflect some of the blame away from the board/ownership
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 28 minutes ago
More fool Conte for not trying to outscore the opposition with your defence then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh wow, what a groundbreaking concept, why has nobody ever thought of that before?
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
Conte's already implied most the squad are carp...apart from the defence so why should they play for him.
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 32 minutes ago
Conte's already implied most the squad are carp...apart from the defence so why should they play for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what a great "Man Manager" he is !!!!
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood I fear a restart might see a new manager give them more opportunity.
The defence needs an overhaul. If Conte doesn't see this then he should leave. If he does see this then I'm fine for him to stay. We need 3 top class CBs for this system. Top class leaders. Would give anything for Inters CBs lBastoni De Vrij Skriniar
We’ve been awful for the majority of the season. Now the results are matching performances - like some of us said they would
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour ago
We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood I fear a restart might see a new manager give them more opportunity.
The defence needs an overhaul. If Conte doesn't see this then he should leave. If he does see this then I'm fine for him to stay. We need 3 top class CBs for this system. Top class leaders. Would give anything for Inters CBs lBastoni De Vrij Skriniar
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood"..... sorry mate, but I see No evidence of this whatsoever.. what makes you say that ?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I pretty much agree with all that mate... The list of issues at Spurs is endless.. Re Conte, I'm afraid the most impressive thing about him is his resume... sadly that's of no use to a club like Spurs if we cannot come close to replicating his previous club experiences and environment... Totally agree with you re it being a watershed moment. I suspect its already done.. Conte looks like a dead man walking, the players look like they have quit on him and the silence in the transfer mkt for a club that needs a major overhaul speaks volumes.... Just my guess but I bet Poch is lined up with the club not wanting him to start with a hammering at City..... I would have a small wager Conte is gone by the weekend
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I pretty much agree with all that mate... The list of issues at Spurs is endless.. Re Conte, I'm afraid the most impressive thing about him is his resume... sadly that's of no use to a club like Spurs if we cannot come close to replicating his previous club experiences and environment... Totally agree with you re it being a watershed moment. I suspect its already done.. Conte looks like a dead man walking, the players look like they have quit on him and the silence in the transfer mkt for a club that needs a major overhaul speaks volumes.... Just my guess but I bet Poch is lined up with the club not wanting him to start with a hammering at City..... I would have a small wager Conte is gone by the weekend
----------------------------------------------------------------------
interesting hunch. Would not be too disappointed if it came to pass but it is just more uncertainty and transition and another excuse for some poor players to prove themselves when we really just need to move on from them.
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posted on 17/1/23
More fool Conte for not trying to outscore the opposition with your defence then.
posted on 17/1/23
He just seems like he’s biding his time until he gets a better offer.
Can’t expect him to be that committed to “the project” if he doesn’t even know what it is.
posted on 17/1/23
I have sympathy for anyone who loses somebody they were close to but I find it hard to have much feeling for a guy who makes it all about him when he's supposed to be leading a team !!!
Add that to his ridiculous stubbornness to stick to formation that clearly in outdated in the PL, and totally unsuitable for the players at his disposal and I have no time for the guy... I want him out.... He appears uncommitted, the players look unmotivated, he's full of excuses and the football is pathetic !!! I fully expected to get hammered and Thurs and I think he'll be gone by the weekend.
I have no clue whether it's the right move but I fully expect Poch to be back managing Spurs by next week and for Levy & Co to do a couple of last minute deals in the window.
For what it's worth, I think this is why the Porro deal hasn't happened... No point signing a WB if the next manager is gonna revert back to 4231 or 433 (Please God !!!)
The Longer this window goes with us not making a signing I think spells the end for Conte. Another poor defeat and uninspired performance on Thurs will give Levy the ammo he needs to fire him and deflect some of the blame away from the board/ownership
posted on 17/1/23
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 28 minutes ago
More fool Conte for not trying to outscore the opposition with your defence then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh wow, what a groundbreaking concept, why has nobody ever thought of that before?
posted on 17/1/23
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
posted on 17/1/23
Conte's already implied most the squad are carp...apart from the defence so why should they play for him.
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 32 minutes ago
Conte's already implied most the squad are carp...apart from the defence so why should they play for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
what a great "Man Manager" he is !!!!
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
posted on 17/1/23
We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood I fear a restart might see a new manager give them more opportunity.
The defence needs an overhaul. If Conte doesn't see this then he should leave. If he does see this then I'm fine for him to stay. We need 3 top class CBs for this system. Top class leaders. Would give anything for Inters CBs lBastoni De Vrij Skriniar
posted on 17/1/23
We’ve been awful for the majority of the season. Now the results are matching performances - like some of us said they would
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour ago
We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood I fear a restart might see a new manager give them more opportunity.
The defence needs an overhaul. If Conte doesn't see this then he should leave. If he does see this then I'm fine for him to stay. We need 3 top class CBs for this system. Top class leaders. Would give anything for Inters CBs lBastoni De Vrij Skriniar
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"We are so close to getting rid of the deadwood"..... sorry mate, but I see No evidence of this whatsoever.. what makes you say that ?
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I pretty much agree with all that mate... The list of issues at Spurs is endless.. Re Conte, I'm afraid the most impressive thing about him is his resume... sadly that's of no use to a club like Spurs if we cannot come close to replicating his previous club experiences and environment... Totally agree with you re it being a watershed moment. I suspect its already done.. Conte looks like a dead man walking, the players look like they have quit on him and the silence in the transfer mkt for a club that needs a major overhaul speaks volumes.... Just my guess but I bet Poch is lined up with the club not wanting him to start with a hammering at City..... I would have a small wager Conte is gone by the weekend
posted on 17/1/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Whitehotlanespur (U9832)
posted 10 minutes ago
he does not appear to be interested-if it is not working, try something else
442-rather than 343
spence rather than the others at rwb
son benched for anothere midfielder?
nothing is being tried and only positive is Gill and Sarr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.... Sadly Gill & Sarr are only being played because of injuries not because he really believes in them.... Given Son's form and Kulu's injuries, Gill could have been given far more gam time than he's actually had..... He's a crap manager... Totally overrated and only concerned about his rep as a winner
----------------------------------------------------------------------
isnt that a contradiction?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dunno what to think anymore mate... Just would have thought that given sonny has had one good 45 mins so far this season that Gill might have got more playing time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Critical players never really get dropped. Salah has gone through some tough times at Liverpool and always starts. Son was dropped earlier this season, came off the bench and scored 3.
I think his troubles are as much to do with him as they are to do with our team. He's not being found by many of our players due to their limited ability to be creative. Take Bentancur out of the side and there isnt much talent to play Son into the space he enjoys, and a lack of creativity in and around the box.
Regarding Gil, after Villa I had given up on him ever being able to cope with the PL, thought selecting him away at Palace (a physical side) would have seen hm suffer more, but he really showed what he is capable of. I guess the problem is that top sides, top 4 side have these sorts of talents but they need to deliver most games. Players like Odegard and Martinelli have taken time to truly settle and then become a dominant force.
Fans are expectant and impatient. Arteta was 15 months or more with fans wanting him out, and now that patience is paying off.
Trouble with Conte is that he needs to absolutely trust players, and that trust seems very hard earned. Other managers will put huge faith in players and select them, put his trust in them, not because of injuries etc, but because they need to play to develop. Its a far more positive approach to player management, and progressive.
Conte's problem is that he is not doing this AND the football is poor and progress has stalled. As some have mentioned, at least in early Poch years (and the same for Klopp & Arteta) while they progress was not remarkable you could see the journey of travel and the fact there were young and inexperienced players helped get on board with the level of progress. Conte has experimented little and now the performances and results have plateaued and there are few excuses for it really.
I am not in the Conte out camp, but to me there is a really watershed moment coming....back him sufficiently to get him to sign a contract and start the next season with a squad to challenge, or press he reset button this summer. The latter will no doubt see the loss of Kane or at least his unwillingness to sign a new deal.
Whatever you think of Conte, you also cannot get way from or ignore the fact the we require new quality players in 4 or 5 key positions. If we are prepared to hand Conte that then lets at least see what he can do as he would have no excuses then.
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I pretty much agree with all that mate... The list of issues at Spurs is endless.. Re Conte, I'm afraid the most impressive thing about him is his resume... sadly that's of no use to a club like Spurs if we cannot come close to replicating his previous club experiences and environment... Totally agree with you re it being a watershed moment. I suspect its already done.. Conte looks like a dead man walking, the players look like they have quit on him and the silence in the transfer mkt for a club that needs a major overhaul speaks volumes.... Just my guess but I bet Poch is lined up with the club not wanting him to start with a hammering at City..... I would have a small wager Conte is gone by the weekend
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interesting hunch. Would not be too disappointed if it came to pass but it is just more uncertainty and transition and another excuse for some poor players to prove themselves when we really just need to move on from them.
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