comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
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Prove it
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How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
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Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
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Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
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Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
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How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
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You can't prove it, basically.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
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Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
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Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
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You can't prove it, basically.
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Of course I can't.
If I said to you 'prove that there's no data that shows red is better than blue', how would you do that?
You absolute muppet.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
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Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
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Yep, I'm sure.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't prove it, basically.
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Of course I can't.
If I said to you 'prove that there's no data that shows red is better than blue', how would you do that?
You absolute muppet.
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But it's not a question on red or blue.
It's a question on whether refereeing decisions influence the outcome of league positions during the course of a season.
You absolute muppet
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
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Yep, I'm sure.
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Which goes to show how stupid you really are.
40k allowance single one time payment into pension.
Lowest level of income tax and dividend to not hit the higher limit comes to around 50k.
What you do is buy assets or index funds then incur 10% tax on wind down or sale.
If you paid 155k in dividends and salary you really are not that well off.
Your 155k is peanuts compared to what I was earning. 400k net profit was a couple of months for me.
Clearly you're not client facing in any way shape or form.
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
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No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
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Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
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Yes it is.
It shows that it's not possible to provide proof if something doesn't exist.
What is possible is to prove someone wrong. So if there is data, and I'm wrong, you'll be able to tell me what it is, won't you?
Good luck with that.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is.
It shows that it's not possible to provide proof if something doesn't exist.
What is possible is to prove someone wrong. So if there is data, and I'm wrong, you'll be able to tell me what it is, won't you?
Good luck with that.
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Football matches exist
Refereeing decisions exist
Outcomes of matches exist
Prove that refereeing decisions can't be modelled with regards to outcomes of matches over the course of a season.
You might want to start by loooking up literature where it has been modelled while eating your unhealthy crisps.
Off you go
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
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Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
Football matches exist
Refereeing decisions exist
Outcomes of matches exist
So?
What data within that would enable you to state, as a fact, that a referee has cost you the league?
The data simply doesn't exist.
How can anyone prove that data doesn't exist?
You can't prove that data doesn't exist you can prove that not enough data exists to draw a conclusion.
Which you haven't done.
A better analogy would be you arguing that there's not enough data to forecast the weather rather than claiming it doesn't exist.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
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Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
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Bit late for that game.
You showed your hand. You do a crappy job for an hourly rate.
Anyway I'm watching the match now, where there's lots of data on refereeing decisions, I expect some form of coherent argument from you when I return.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
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Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
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Bit late for that game.
You showed your hand. You do a crappy job for an hourly rate.
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I'm retired.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 17 seconds ago
You can't prove that data doesn't exist you can prove that not enough data exists to draw a conclusion.
Which you haven't done.
A better analogy would be you arguing that there's not enough data to forecast the weather rather than claiming it doesn't exist.
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What?
How on earth does one prove that there is not enough data?
You keep assuming this is about data that is missing.
It isn't.
The subjectivity of football means that it's about the data being an impossibility.
You're retired from your crappy job?
Gotcha.
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 minutes ago
Anyway I'm watching the match now, where there's lots of data on refereeing decisions, I expect some form of coherent argument from you when I return.
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Yes, there's absolutely tonnes of data.
None of it would enable a factual conclusion regarding whether a referee has cost you the league, though.
It simply doesn't exist.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 46 minutes ago
You're retired from your crappy job?
Gotcha.
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I'm retired in my 40s, I didn't spend my top earning years arguing on forums every day and don't expect anything other than the green eyed monster from someone who can't discipline themselves to achieve that.
Lets not make some more make believe that you can focus on work and post here at the same time.
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
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You can't prove it, basically.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't prove it, basically.
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Of course I can't.
If I said to you 'prove that there's no data that shows red is better than blue', how would you do that?
You absolute muppet.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
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Yep, I'm sure.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prove it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is that possible, exactly? Prove that the data I say doesn't exist, doesn't exist?
If you think I'm wrong, you tell me what data you think would give you the factual basis.
You can't. It doesn't exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't prove it, basically.
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Of course I can't.
If I said to you 'prove that there's no data that shows red is better than blue', how would you do that?
You absolute muppet.
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But it's not a question on red or blue.
It's a question on whether refereeing decisions influence the outcome of league positions during the course of a season.
You absolute muppet
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.
And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.
You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did I pay myself?
What sort of question is that?
I pay myself a base salary and then dividends throughout the year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear. Sure you haven't left anything out here?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, I'm sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which goes to show how stupid you really are.
40k allowance single one time payment into pension.
Lowest level of income tax and dividend to not hit the higher limit comes to around 50k.
What you do is buy assets or index funds then incur 10% tax on wind down or sale.
If you paid 155k in dividends and salary you really are not that well off.
Your 155k is peanuts compared to what I was earning. 400k net profit was a couple of months for me.
Clearly you're not client facing in any way shape or form.
posted on 15/2/23
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
posted on 15/2/23
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
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No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
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No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
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Yes it is.
It shows that it's not possible to provide proof if something doesn't exist.
What is possible is to prove someone wrong. So if there is data, and I'm wrong, you'll be able to tell me what it is, won't you?
Good luck with that.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 seconds ago
The red/blue is the perfect comparison.
There is no data to prove my point. That's the whole point. If there were data, you'd be able to prove me wrong.
You can't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it's not
Red/blue are discrete colours.
Football matches consist of continuous data.
You do get the mathematical distinction between the two things don't you?
Prove that continuous data can't be analysed.
Off you go.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is.
It shows that it's not possible to provide proof if something doesn't exist.
What is possible is to prove someone wrong. So if there is data, and I'm wrong, you'll be able to tell me what it is, won't you?
Good luck with that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Football matches exist
Refereeing decisions exist
Outcomes of matches exist
Prove that refereeing decisions can't be modelled with regards to outcomes of matches over the course of a season.
You might want to start by loooking up literature where it has been modelled while eating your unhealthy crisps.
Off you go
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
posted on 15/2/23
Football matches exist
Refereeing decisions exist
Outcomes of matches exist
So?
What data within that would enable you to state, as a fact, that a referee has cost you the league?
The data simply doesn't exist.
How can anyone prove that data doesn't exist?
posted on 15/2/23
You can't prove that data doesn't exist you can prove that not enough data exists to draw a conclusion.
Which you haven't done.
A better analogy would be you arguing that there's not enough data to forecast the weather rather than claiming it doesn't exist.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by TopForm (U15726)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
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Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
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Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
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Bit late for that game.
You showed your hand. You do a crappy job for an hourly rate.
posted on 15/2/23
Anyway I'm watching the match now, where there's lots of data on refereeing decisions, I expect some form of coherent argument from you when I return.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
I'm paying myself money in order to pay off my mortgage.
I also have a pension and investments... but I haven't included that in this discussion.
Oh and actually, the optimum salary is £20k after which it's financially beneficial to revert to dividends.
Oh, and you casually forgot that the money retained in the business is also mine.
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Dear oh dear you'd better get off this forum and up your profits then. How do you live off that?
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Because I'm quite happy using the forum as well as working.
You can pretend about your earnings if you like... we all saw your reaction to my company's position - that tells us all we need to know.
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Not pretending at all. I just find it funny your definition of success is my definition of year 1 of my business.
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Bit late for that game.
You showed your hand. You do a crappy job for an hourly rate.
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I'm retired.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 17 seconds ago
You can't prove that data doesn't exist you can prove that not enough data exists to draw a conclusion.
Which you haven't done.
A better analogy would be you arguing that there's not enough data to forecast the weather rather than claiming it doesn't exist.
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What?
How on earth does one prove that there is not enough data?
You keep assuming this is about data that is missing.
It isn't.
The subjectivity of football means that it's about the data being an impossibility.
posted on 15/2/23
You're retired from your crappy job?
Gotcha.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 9 minutes ago
Anyway I'm watching the match now, where there's lots of data on refereeing decisions, I expect some form of coherent argument from you when I return.
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Yes, there's absolutely tonnes of data.
None of it would enable a factual conclusion regarding whether a referee has cost you the league, though.
It simply doesn't exist.
posted on 15/2/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 46 minutes ago
You're retired from your crappy job?
Gotcha.
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I'm retired in my 40s, I didn't spend my top earning years arguing on forums every day and don't expect anything other than the green eyed monster from someone who can't discipline themselves to achieve that.
Lets not make some more make believe that you can focus on work and post here at the same time.
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