I agree, and have absolutely no issue with him posting his view on Twitter.
One thing though...
How much would those openly defending Lineker today stand by the right to free speech of a BBC employee posting on Twitter in support of the policy?
Let's say another MOTD presenter like Shearer or Murphy did so... do we think they'd keep their job?
Seems to me there's a lack of tolerance across both sides in any debate of this nature.
Cruella actually said this:
"I think it's unhelpful to compare our measures, which are lawful, proportionate and - indeed - compassionate, to 1930s Germany.”
Suggesting that Tim Davie has made impartiality the cornerstone of leadership is priceless as well.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 minutes ago
I agree, and have absolutely no issue with him posting his view on Twitter.
One thing though...
How much would those openly defending Lineker today stand by the right to free speech of a BBC employee posting on Twitter in support of the policy?
Let's say another MOTD presenter like Shearer or Murphy did so... do we think they'd keep their job?
Seems to me there's a lack of tolerance across both sides in any debate of this nature.
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People have lost their jobs for similar things.
Lineker is in a privileged position earning well over £1m a year with the BBC on top of what he earns from BTSport.
His contract will include a number of caveats such as not getting involved in political canvassing or any activity that might create issues for his employers.
Personally I am not swayed one way or the other by his comments recently.
However I do think this woke stuff has to end, people have a right to free speech within reason and without them being cancelled.🤔😵💫
If he’s broken a clause in his contract then that’s different, absolutely.
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
Yep, I like it. He's spot on too.
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
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So if you speak out against Putin in Russia the consequence is you get jailed? Is that what you mean?
It’s pretty funny that the free speech nutters are now crying about Lineker.
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
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You’re thinking they should have had the ability to predict the future as fact…?
We have a judicial system that’s on its knees, I’m not sure it’s quite ready yet to turn into Minority Report…
, thank feck for the likes of Gary Lineker, for speaking up for those less fortunate
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Migrant workers in Qatar? Oh
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
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You’re thinking they should have had the ability to predict the future as fact…?
We have a judicial system that’s on its knees, I’m not sure it’s quite ready yet to turn into Minority Report…
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Violent criminal doing more violence isn't really hard to predict tbh
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
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Haven’t heard Naomi Campbell comment after the fella murdered someone after her saying it infringed his human rights to be deported.
I like Gary Lineker as a football pundit and he’s entitled to his opinion.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s pretty funny that the free speech nutters are now crying about Lineker.
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And on the day that snowflakes are literally falling from the sky. A real-life pathetic fallacy.
Lineker has angered Right Said Fred, the abhorrent and ridiculous Dame Abi Roberts and the deranged psychopath Bob Moran, so he's obviously doing something right
comment by New Peebs, Same Year (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
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So if you speak out against Putin in Russia the consequence is you get jailed? Is that what you mean?
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I just mean that in the same way you're free to speak your mind, companies are free to not want to be affiliated with you if that speech doesn't match their values. A lot of it will just be virtue signalling though to avoid backlash when they don't really care that much.
Cmon lets have a why and some reasoning behind these opinions. A thorough analysis of what the problem involves from a moral, practical and economic perspective and what the potential solutions and outcomes are.
I want to see the net cost and benefit to the Country as whole, how this plan affects it, what other plans there could be etc.
It's all to easy to post up an opinion with no substance. Not sure what anyone on here or Lineker has to offer if they're just saying things like yeah I agree, yeah I don't agree, 1930, we need to help people, etc.
I like Lineker and he's entitled to his views without being cancelled for them, but that was a stupid thing to say about the government. They are a disgrace, but they aint 1930's Germany ffs. We don't need thousands of unchecked Albanian's coming here to claim benefits. Only people we should be helping are those affected by war and natural disasters.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 53 seconds ago
Far Right Said Fred.
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I just can't believe what the guys who brought us 'Deeply Dippy' have turned into
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 53 seconds ago
Far Right Said Fred.
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I just can't believe what the guys who brought us 'Deeply Dippy' have turned into
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Deeply Dippy does describe those political opinions.
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posted on 8/3/23
Totally agree
posted on 8/3/23
I agree, and have absolutely no issue with him posting his view on Twitter.
One thing though...
How much would those openly defending Lineker today stand by the right to free speech of a BBC employee posting on Twitter in support of the policy?
Let's say another MOTD presenter like Shearer or Murphy did so... do we think they'd keep their job?
Seems to me there's a lack of tolerance across both sides in any debate of this nature.
posted on 8/3/23
Cruella actually said this:
"I think it's unhelpful to compare our measures, which are lawful, proportionate and - indeed - compassionate, to 1930s Germany.”
posted on 8/3/23
Suggesting that Tim Davie has made impartiality the cornerstone of leadership is priceless as well.
posted on 8/3/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 minutes ago
I agree, and have absolutely no issue with him posting his view on Twitter.
One thing though...
How much would those openly defending Lineker today stand by the right to free speech of a BBC employee posting on Twitter in support of the policy?
Let's say another MOTD presenter like Shearer or Murphy did so... do we think they'd keep their job?
Seems to me there's a lack of tolerance across both sides in any debate of this nature.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
People have lost their jobs for similar things.
posted on 8/3/23
Lineker is in a privileged position earning well over £1m a year with the BBC on top of what he earns from BTSport.
His contract will include a number of caveats such as not getting involved in political canvassing or any activity that might create issues for his employers.
Personally I am not swayed one way or the other by his comments recently.
However I do think this woke stuff has to end, people have a right to free speech within reason and without them being cancelled.🤔😵💫
posted on 8/3/23
If he’s broken a clause in his contract then that’s different, absolutely.
posted on 8/3/23
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
posted on 8/3/23
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
posted on 8/3/23
Yep, I like it. He's spot on too.
posted on 8/3/23
👍 Gary right on fellow
posted on 8/3/23
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
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So if you speak out against Putin in Russia the consequence is you get jailed? Is that what you mean?
posted on 8/3/23
It’s pretty funny that the free speech nutters are now crying about Lineker.
posted on 8/3/23
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re thinking they should have had the ability to predict the future as fact…?
We have a judicial system that’s on its knees, I’m not sure it’s quite ready yet to turn into Minority Report…
posted on 8/3/23
, thank feck for the likes of Gary Lineker, for speaking up for those less fortunate
_______________
Migrant workers in Qatar? Oh
posted on 8/3/23
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re thinking they should have had the ability to predict the future as fact…?
We have a judicial system that’s on its knees, I’m not sure it’s quite ready yet to turn into Minority Report…
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Violent criminal doing more violence isn't really hard to predict tbh
posted on 8/3/23
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also we have to remember all those passengers on that Jamaica flight who protested against an undesirable being deported. The flight took off without the individual concerned who was returned to the detention centre before being released on bail whilst an appeal against deportation was heard.
Wind on the clock, this same individually then went on to kill a female……….shows how stupid people can be if they do not know all the facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haven’t heard Naomi Campbell comment after the fella murdered someone after her saying it infringed his human rights to be deported.
I like Gary Lineker as a football pundit and he’s entitled to his opinion.
posted on 8/3/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s pretty funny that the free speech nutters are now crying about Lineker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And on the day that snowflakes are literally falling from the sky. A real-life pathetic fallacy.
posted on 8/3/23
Lineker has angered Right Said Fred, the abhorrent and ridiculous Dame Abi Roberts and the deranged psychopath Bob Moran, so he's obviously doing something right
posted on 8/3/23
comment by New Peebs, Same Year (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences though.
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So if you speak out against Putin in Russia the consequence is you get jailed? Is that what you mean?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just mean that in the same way you're free to speak your mind, companies are free to not want to be affiliated with you if that speech doesn't match their values. A lot of it will just be virtue signalling though to avoid backlash when they don't really care that much.
posted on 8/3/23
Far Right Said Fred.
posted on 8/3/23
Cmon lets have a why and some reasoning behind these opinions. A thorough analysis of what the problem involves from a moral, practical and economic perspective and what the potential solutions and outcomes are.
I want to see the net cost and benefit to the Country as whole, how this plan affects it, what other plans there could be etc.
It's all to easy to post up an opinion with no substance. Not sure what anyone on here or Lineker has to offer if they're just saying things like yeah I agree, yeah I don't agree, 1930, we need to help people, etc.
posted on 8/3/23
I like Lineker and he's entitled to his views without being cancelled for them, but that was a stupid thing to say about the government. They are a disgrace, but they aint 1930's Germany ffs. We don't need thousands of unchecked Albanian's coming here to claim benefits. Only people we should be helping are those affected by war and natural disasters.
posted on 8/3/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 53 seconds ago
Far Right Said Fred.
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I just can't believe what the guys who brought us 'Deeply Dippy' have turned into
posted on 8/3/23
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 53 seconds ago
Far Right Said Fred.
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I just can't believe what the guys who brought us 'Deeply Dippy' have turned into
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Deeply Dippy does describe those political opinions.
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