Pau Torres is another leftie. Two left footed CB rarely play together so he’d just have been back up to Lisandro.
I’m surprised we’re not in for Timber but FFP likely won’t allow it.
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause.
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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I don't think we're forgetting it. We've been pretty heavily linked with both Kim and Desasi.
My guess is we're waiting on some certainty around Maguire's future before we make a move there. Obviously we risk missing out on targets in the meantime but we also can't afford to buy players we don't really need this summer.
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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It does seem a younger player is a good profile for that 4th CB spot. Obviously dependant on whether we can ship Maguire, if so it'd be a huge risk to go into next season with 3 CB's, one of whom is injury prone.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 7 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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€25 million btw
I guess it all depends on what happens to Maguire, if we sell then we're likely to get a bit of money which can go on a replacement. I heard our back up CB plan was Disasi at Monaco?
Hopefully we can sell/release a few players this summer. So far we've made €1m from sales compared to Chelsea who have made over €200m.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
I guess it all depends on what happens to Maguire, if we sell then we're likely to get a bit of money which can go on a replacement. I heard our back up CB plan was Disasi at Monaco?
Hopefully we can sell/release a few players this summer. So far we've made €1m from sales compared to Chelsea who have made over €200m.
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Shame we don't have feeder clubs in Saudi to buy all our leftovers.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
De Gea
Henderson
Maguire
Bailly
Tuanzebe
Jones
Telles
Williams
Fred
VdB
Elanga
Surely we can get a bit of money for these and/or reduce the wage bill considerably.
We definitely could do with a young CB who provides better back-up and competition to Varane than Maguire while costing less in wages. But it's fourth priority at best, so 1982's point is crucial: can we afford that player we want?
The fact that we haven't opted for a 'first phase specialist' in midfield does make me wonder if there's a masterplan in the bag, because Varane isn't great on the ball.
Busby
I heard Ziyech's transfer has fallen through and the other 2 they got fees for weren't huge tbf. They've done far better selling to us and Arsenal in recent years.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
We definitely could do with a young CB who provides better back-up and competition to Varane than Maguire while costing less in wages. But it's fourth priority at best, so 1982's point is crucial: can we afford that player we want?
The fact that we haven't opted for a 'first phase specialist' in midfield does make me wonder if there's a masterplan in the bag, because Varane isn't great on the ball.
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I think the issue we have, which is quite unique to us, is that Verane is only every available for 2/3 of a season, so we'll likely need to use our 3rd and 4th choice a fair bit.
Tbf to Varane, the 3 injuries he got last season were all different and none of them kept him out that long. Hopefully now he's retired from International football he can get more rest.
What happened to Teden Mengi?
I'll have my money on Maguire still being United captain next season.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
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It's an interesting point... Maybe if the right keeper is brought in, ETH will be fine to give Maguire another try (he seems to panic around DDG and vice versa, but not with Pickford).
Busby, we certainly can't proceed on the assumption that Varane will play every match. But I think we should also be planning for succession too. He's an outstanding defender but he's not as good as, e.g. Lindelof, when it comes to build-up play. If we can't afford a world-class player like Kim from Napoli, this would be an ideal time to bring in a young defender who may not be ready for a starting role but with a very high ceiling.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
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It's an interesting point... Maybe if the right keeper is brought in, ETH will be fine to give Maguire another try (he seems to panic around DDG and vice versa, but not with Pickford).
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DDG amplifies any uncertainties around the defence, that's for sure. But it's also true that in international football it's quite uncommon to be pressed high with the kind of intensity and sophisticated coordination of a top club side. We know that with a bit of time and space, Harry Maguire is good at picking out a pass or ambling forward into space. Now would seem an opportune time to replace him: we don't look desperate in the transfer market (as we'd be recruiting for a squad player) and it should be possible to get a net reduction in the wage bill, a net gain in transfer revenue/expenditure, while bringing in a younger player with a better profile fit for the football we want to play.
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
What happened to Teden Mengi?
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He's still at the club I think but apparently had a load of injury problems.
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
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He's not cumin if maguire isn't sold
You don't need CF? Kane done deal right?
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
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He's not cumin if maguire isn't sold
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Shame as Maguire doesn't cut the mustard in this team
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posted on 30/6/23
Pau Torres is another leftie. Two left footed CB rarely play together so he’d just have been back up to Lisandro.
I’m surprised we’re not in for Timber but FFP likely won’t allow it.
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause.
posted on 30/6/23
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
posted on 30/6/23
I don't think we're forgetting it. We've been pretty heavily linked with both Kim and Desasi.
My guess is we're waiting on some certainty around Maguire's future before we make a move there. Obviously we risk missing out on targets in the meantime but we also can't afford to buy players we don't really need this summer.
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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It does seem a younger player is a good profile for that 4th CB spot. Obviously dependant on whether we can ship Maguire, if so it'd be a huge risk to go into next season with 3 CB's, one of whom is injury prone.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 7 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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€25 million btw
posted on 30/6/23
I guess it all depends on what happens to Maguire, if we sell then we're likely to get a bit of money which can go on a replacement. I heard our back up CB plan was Disasi at Monaco?
Hopefully we can sell/release a few players this summer. So far we've made €1m from sales compared to Chelsea who have made over €200m.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
I guess it all depends on what happens to Maguire, if we sell then we're likely to get a bit of money which can go on a replacement. I heard our back up CB plan was Disasi at Monaco?
Hopefully we can sell/release a few players this summer. So far we've made €1m from sales compared to Chelsea who have made over €200m.
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Shame we don't have feeder clubs in Saudi to buy all our leftovers.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
posted on 30/6/23
De Gea
Henderson
Maguire
Bailly
Tuanzebe
Jones
Telles
Williams
Fred
VdB
Elanga
Surely we can get a bit of money for these and/or reduce the wage bill considerably.
posted on 30/6/23
We definitely could do with a young CB who provides better back-up and competition to Varane than Maguire while costing less in wages. But it's fourth priority at best, so 1982's point is crucial: can we afford that player we want?
The fact that we haven't opted for a 'first phase specialist' in midfield does make me wonder if there's a masterplan in the bag, because Varane isn't great on the ball.
posted on 30/6/23
Busby
I heard Ziyech's transfer has fallen through and the other 2 they got fees for weren't huge tbf. They've done far better selling to us and Arsenal in recent years.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
We definitely could do with a young CB who provides better back-up and competition to Varane than Maguire while costing less in wages. But it's fourth priority at best, so 1982's point is crucial: can we afford that player we want?
The fact that we haven't opted for a 'first phase specialist' in midfield does make me wonder if there's a masterplan in the bag, because Varane isn't great on the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the issue we have, which is quite unique to us, is that Verane is only every available for 2/3 of a season, so we'll likely need to use our 3rd and 4th choice a fair bit.
posted on 30/6/23
Tbf to Varane, the 3 injuries he got last season were all different and none of them kept him out that long. Hopefully now he's retired from International football he can get more rest.
posted on 30/6/23
What happened to Teden Mengi?
posted on 30/6/23
I'll have my money on Maguire still being United captain next season.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's an interesting point... Maybe if the right keeper is brought in, ETH will be fine to give Maguire another try (he seems to panic around DDG and vice versa, but not with Pickford).
posted on 30/6/23
Busby, we certainly can't proceed on the assumption that Varane will play every match. But I think we should also be planning for succession too. He's an outstanding defender but he's not as good as, e.g. Lindelof, when it comes to build-up play. If we can't afford a world-class player like Kim from Napoli, this would be an ideal time to bring in a young defender who may not be ready for a starting role but with a very high ceiling.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't see Maguire staying but fwiw, if he does, I think he and that whole back line will be a bit more comfortable with a more confident keeper behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's an interesting point... Maybe if the right keeper is brought in, ETH will be fine to give Maguire another try (he seems to panic around DDG and vice versa, but not with Pickford).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
DDG amplifies any uncertainties around the defence, that's for sure. But it's also true that in international football it's quite uncommon to be pressed high with the kind of intensity and sophisticated coordination of a top club side. We know that with a bit of time and space, Harry Maguire is good at picking out a pass or ambling forward into space. Now would seem an opportune time to replace him: we don't look desperate in the transfer market (as we'd be recruiting for a squad player) and it should be possible to get a net reduction in the wage bill, a net gain in transfer revenue/expenditure, while bringing in a younger player with a better profile fit for the football we want to play.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 6 minutes ago
What happened to Teden Mengi?
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He's still at the club I think but apparently had a load of injury problems.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
posted on 30/6/23
kotchap is (a) red
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
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He's not cumin if maguire isn't sold
posted on 30/6/23
You don't need CF? Kane done deal right?
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 10 minutes ago
If Maguire is sold, I’d be tempted to take a punt on Bella-Kotchap who apparently has a £25 release clause
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This ^
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Good player, he condiments his defensive partners well
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If we bought him, we could feel rueful that he had Gabriel Heinze were born in different generations.
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We don't need has-beans
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He's not cumin if maguire isn't sold
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Shame as Maguire doesn't cut the mustard in this team
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