Most of Israeli population are against the Gaza atrocities.


They’re living on illegally occupied land and they’ve got the nerve to be angry that people they stole the land are being slain?

Ok look this is getting out of control now.

The Epstein comment was a joke in reply to Berbaking rubbishing moregreaves comment.

I did assume Epstein to be Zionist simply because he’s a bad guy and Jewish. I’m also vaping HHC right now so what’s funny in my head obviously didn’t come across that way on here.

The comment was ill informed.

comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 11 minutes ago
Most of Israeli population are against the Gaza atrocities.


They’re living on illegally occupied land and they’ve got the nerve to be angry that people they stole the land are being slain?
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None of the numbers in the OP even mention what’s going on in the West Bank 😳

Wow well done to these protestors for calling out Genocide Joe at his press conference before eventually being censored:

https://x.com/hamza_a96/status/1744433923449401673?s=46&t=OGfZZhWP7rROftTlMhKPZg

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 39 minutes ago
son of quebec - I know. Most of Israeli population are against the Gaza atrocities. My business partner is an Anti-Zionist jew and gets just as angry thinking about it as I do
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I'm not so sure about that. They blame netanyahu for the losses they've incurred, but I don't think they're opposed to taking the land.

The problem with your article is that you fail to point out that Trump would back Israel more than Biden. So this will not hurt Biden in the end.

The bible belt is Trump's voter base. Watch the campaigns. He will have to speak about Israel and Palestine. If he even dithers for a second in declaring his utterly unconditional support for Israel, he will have lost the election in one second.

Trump will actually campaign on the platform that he can support Israel better than Biden and will criticise Biden for not supporting Israel properly.

The USA government, administration and spy organisations are up to their eyeballs in Jews, Christians and Israel sympathisers.

I guarantee you that nobody that even smells like they won't back Israel 100% will ever be president of that country.

Mamba you are probably right but the main reason I haven’t mentioned Trump is because he’s not the current POTUS. If he was and the same thing was happening on his watch I would be saying the same thing about him.

Genocide Joe’s defence shouldn’t be that he’s not Trump.

saying the same thing about him.

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None of us believe that. Your posting history suggests you are some weird right winger who would very much not be calling Trump ‘Genocide Don’

I criticise Trump all the time, there was a time when more so than Biden.

I never named myself after him though, and actively campaigned for him to become president. That was you

weird right winger
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United fans should know all about that tbf

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Mamba you are probably right but the main reason I haven’t mentioned Trump is because he’s not the current POTUS. If he was and the same thing was happening on his watch I would be saying the same thing about him.

Genocide Joe’s defence shouldn’t be that he’s not Trump.
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Perhaps you've gotten confused after so many comments. I'm replying to your article in which you said this

"With all this in mind, should Genocide Joe serve a 2nd term as POTUS?"

And this

"For those (many I assume) who will defend Biden, would you still defend him if Trump wasn’t the only alternative? How bad do things have to get for him to hold some sort of accountability for this never ending slaughter?"

So first of all, you did mention Trump.

And saying you didn't mention Trump because he's not the POTUS renders you pointless because obviously he will contest the election vs Biden.

Furthermore, if you're concerned about Palestine then you are better off keeping Biden that allowing Trump to win.

It's literally going out of the frying pan and jumping head first into the fire itself.

I reckon that will be made very clear in the coming months before the election, but I do wonder sometimes because most people are stupid. They voted Brexit and Trump the first time so anything possible. They might actually think Trump will do anything in Palestine apart from give Israel everything want that Biden won't.

Israel probably want Trump in there as he'll be desperate enough to help them take out more of their enemies and start more wars than Biden is willing to go along with.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
I criticise Trump all the time, there was a time when more so than Biden.

I never named myself after him though, and actively campaigned for him to become president. That was you
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‘Actively campaigned’? How did I do that? Go house to house asking people to vote? Weird.

Sorry Mamba, you are the first person to actually reply to the OP so I was a bit thrown off there

I doubt Gaza will even be a talking point in the POTUS election, it will be completely flattened by the time it gets to the latter stages. Main talking point will probably be war with Iran, if Netanyahu gets his way.

Gaza will be beyond saving no matter who the next POTUS will be. What I am asking is for his inactions alone, should he get a 2nd terms as POTUS? You have to be able to answer the question without looking at the alternative

comment by Robb - Glenn Maxwell. Legend. Hero. Icon. (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
I criticise Trump all the time, there was a time when more so than Biden.

I never named myself after him though, and actively campaigned for him to become president. That was you
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‘Actively campaigned’? How did I do that? Go house to house asking people to vote? Weird.
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At least you’re not denying it ☺️

What I am asking is for his inactions alone, should he get a 2nd terms as POTUS? You have to be able to answer the question without looking at the alternative

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Nothing that happens in the Middle East should be a reason why a US president does or doesn’t get a second term. It should solely be based on domestic performance alone and Biden has successfully taken the US out of Covid and also improved the economy and created far more jobs than Trump did.

I’d much prefer the Dems to put forward a younger and more energetic candidate but Biden is still a better choice than Trump.

...would you still defend him if Trump wasn’t the only alternative?
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I would never defend Biden over Israel and the genocide he is supporting there. However, it's irresponsible not to point out that Trump is worse than Biden because you might make people think voting for Trump will help the Palestinians whereas you will be signing off on worse atrocities.

And who knows what will happen with Russia/Ukraine what with Russia probably having countless compromats over Trump's ass.

Problem with democracy is it offers limited choices. It's either Biden or Trump. If you care about Palestine then who will you choose?

Complete rubbish, when you look what the American taxpayer contributes towards Ukraine and especially Israel in military aid, while many parts of America are simultaneously becoming 3rd world countries, then what happens in the Middle East is of massive importance to any US president.

That was @ Robb

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry Mamba, you are the first person to actually reply to the OP so I was a bit thrown off there

I doubt Gaza will even be a talking point in the POTUS election, it will be completely flattened by the time it gets to the latter stages. Main talking point will probably be war with Iran, if Netanyahu gets his way.

Gaza will be beyond saving no matter who the next POTUS will be. What I am asking is for his inactions alone, should he get a 2nd terms as POTUS? You have to be able to answer the question without looking at the alternative
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That's impossible to do. There's limited choice of only Biden and Trump so it's not a question of whether I think Biden should get a second term as much as it's a question of who is the lesser evil.

What I will say is Biden deserves another term as president far more than Trump. We don't need more problems on top of what we already have now. None of them deserve to be president though IMO.

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 50 seconds ago
Complete rubbish, when you look what the American taxpayer contributes towards Ukraine and especially Israel in military aid, while many parts of America are simultaneously becoming 3rd world countries, then what happens in the Middle East is of massive importance to any US president.
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You don’t understand what always has and always will motivate the US voter. And that’s solely how presidents do domestically. And Biden has never started an insurrection and isn’t currently facing jail for countless offences.

Add to that Americans caring far more about the rise in christofascism on the right and banning of abortion etc than what happens overseas.

America already is a third world country but with a Gucci belt

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
Complete rubbish, when you look what the American taxpayer contributes towards Ukraine and especially Israel in military aid, while many parts of America are simultaneously becoming 3rd world countries, then what happens in the Middle East is of massive importance to any US president.
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All these things went on unabated when Trump was president. Why would anyone think another term as president for him would change anything then?

American taxpayers have been giving Israel $4b (currently) in military support alone every year for decades.

Does it make sense to bring it up as a talking point in this US election? It's been going on for ages and went on unabated when Trump was president.

comment by Robb - Glenn Maxwell. Legend. Hero. Icon. (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 50 seconds ago
Complete rubbish, when you look what the American taxpayer contributes towards Ukraine and especially Israel in military aid, while many parts of America are simultaneously becoming 3rd world countries, then what happens in the Middle East is of massive importance to any US president.
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You don’t understand what always has and always will motivate the US voter. And that’s solely how presidents do domestically. And Biden has never started an insurrection and isn’t currently facing jail for countless offences.
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The last time he left the presidency he nearly caused a civil war. He's a criminal, a populist and a racist.

Only idiots would risk bringing him back. Trump will try to change the constitution and go for a third term. He will try to be president for life. He would sacrifice anything and anyone to remain president, and won't give a fack about any Palestinian unless it's a Palestinian that can help him achieve his goals in some way.

Yes I would say it 100% would make sense to be brought up, as the American people are questioning it.

I understand your points on Trump, again, now argument there. Let me swing it the other way, if Obama,
an actual great president, was president right now, do you think he would be sitting as silently as Biden?