comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
Lesson...goo watch the opera, guys
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
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Calm down Fridgegirl.
I just asked Mack what right does he have to make demands as a customer when he clearly is not a customer because he has been priced out.
This is what he said.
'The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.'
He said he doesn't buy tickets. Therefore he is not a customer.
But it's another day and another wrong take by you again lol.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
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I get what you are saying and appreciate the difficulties that many will face when football has become so expensive.
It speaks volumes that away tickets have been capped at £30 when it wasnt long ago few tickets cost more than £30.
Football has changed. What we grew up with is gone and people just have to adapt. I earn decent money but i still target games which are affordable to take my kids to. The cup games (£50 for the family), I got West Ham tickets which were £110 for me and my 2 boys, and it is more of an occassional treat than something i could afford to do every week, especially as its 150m round trip. But just getting hold of tickets is bloody difficult, which speaks to the massive demand at Spurs.
What frustrates me is people simply blame everything on the ownership. I agree that the way they run the club is impersonal and what felt like a family club now feels like a corporation. They have failed there absolutely!
But what that corporate approach has delivered is amazing facilities and one of the strongest financial foundations in the league
People don't care about profits, they wont sing about profits but they will want Spurs to compete and spend big money and to do so, they need to earn big money.
While we may have one trophy in the last 20 years, to a lot of fans, and especially match going fans, football is about more than simply trophies. Everyone agrees it is simply not good enough for this club, no one is casually accepting failure, but for some the expectation is tempered because football is a way of life.
The fact you teach kids says it all really, Football is something to enjoy, to feel a part of, to bring emotion into your life, to feel part of something, to share with others, it's not just about trophies. We all love it, we would all play for free, we can't walk past a goal in a park and not kick a ball into it, or screw up a piece of paper at work and not try and volley it into the waste paper bin.
This ownership have not done everything right but in many respects they have just gone with the flow.
A club like BHA might be a truly family club, but they will never ever achieve what Spurs have and can. They will remain a nice club, dependent on making money of well sourced buys and hoping to make top half. If this was Spurs, acting all nice and friendly in our 36k WHL relic stadium, the ownership would be getting abuse for this too.
Football is cut throat at the very top. Huge business run by billionaire owners and investment companies. We will never see ticket prices drop, at any club. You will not get the personal family friendly touch in a 65k seater stadium which cost £1bn to build.
Much of what people have anger with would be more accurately directed at how football has changed, not how our owners behave. They are not perfect have and continue to make mistakes and poor decisions. But we are now in a position where we are extremely well placed financially to be able to compete. We have seen much increased spending on transfers and now that the coach and backroom staff seem to be good appointments, we are seeing that money being better spent and the football being far more entertaining with clear potential to get better and better.
That comes at a cost and sadly a cost for some which is too much to afford. Whether we become successful remains to be seen but we are at least in a financial place now where that possibility is realistic. If trophies truly are you only measure then this financial position should please you because it is the only way we stand any chance of success anytime soon.
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
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Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
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Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
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Great.
When exactly are we going to compete with the top clubs then?
The 12th of Never?
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
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GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
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https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
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But these are not for the classical operas are they?
However I do take your point👍
The ROH has to utilise its premises like any organisation to maximise revenue and operating costs. Just like THFC do🤔
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
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Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Great.
When exactly are we going to compete with the top clubs then?
The 12th of Never?
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Sizzle…………..we have just had nearly 4 years of horrible football during a pandemic and no crowds for a year plus 2 managers who bored our fans to tears and achieved minimal success.
We have now got a manager/coach who seems to have been made for Spurs with his style of football being loved by everybody in football.
Yes it has some issues in terms of our high line, but I would much prefer this to the very stark and defensive minded football served up by Mourinho and Conte.
Ange is also a pragmatist, he acknowledges that the fans have suffered and has not promised that things will be solved over night. However, you cannot deny that the football has been nothing short of brilliant at times & we would be in a much better position if it hadn’t been for the period from and including the Chelsea game. Suspensions (which should have been avoided and were stupid) and injuries robbed us of our complete backline which is the team’s backbone and starting platform.
Yes, we should have beaten Fulham in the Carabao Cup but there is no guarantee that we would have won it.
We lost out to the PL, CL and World Club Champions in the FA Cup by a single goal and still without several key players.
Since 2022 we have spent over £385m on players and it is now showing how good our recruitment has been in the past two years as opposed to the previous 5 years.
This spend far exceeds the money we spend pre 2022.
So the club is moving in the right direction with the best stadium in Europe and possibly the World, greater revenues in all directions which means more money available for new players of the right calibre.
When you realise how much City, Chelsea & Arsenal have spent we are obviously behind them in spending terms but have a much more sustainable future.
Arsenal’s wages have increased by over £100m this year alone. Chelsea have almost a “supermarket sweep” mentality spending over £100bn in the hope (failure there) that it somehow means rapid success.
I understand people’s frustrations re price hikes, but Spurs are like any other organisation in that they too have vastly inflated costs in terms of wages, food & beverages, maintenance and of course budgeting for bringing in new players for Ange.
This is not an apology for Levy, but he has with his corporate team has made the club one of the best run and financially stable clubs in Workd football. We should at least recognise and acknowledge that. All income is re-invested right a cross the club and THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
People also moan about Levy’s salary at c36m, well if you look at other organisations with the same turnover then it is in line with market practices.
Sorry that is meant to be c£6m and not £36m
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 7 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
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Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
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GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
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But these are not for the classical operas are they?
However I do take your point👍
The ROH has to utilise its premises like any organisation to maximise revenue and operating costs. Just like THFC do🤔
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The prices are for ANY performance at Covent garden. Here is their complete house pricing....enjoy..
http://static.roh.org.uk/seatmaps/2016-17/autumn/autumn-seat-price-plan-201617.pdf
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posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
posted on 12/3/24
Lesson...goo watch the opera, guys
posted on 12/3/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
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Calm down Fridgegirl.
I just asked Mack what right does he have to make demands as a customer when he clearly is not a customer because he has been priced out.
This is what he said.
'The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.'
He said he doesn't buy tickets. Therefore he is not a customer.
But it's another day and another wrong take by you again lol.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
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I get what you are saying and appreciate the difficulties that many will face when football has become so expensive.
It speaks volumes that away tickets have been capped at £30 when it wasnt long ago few tickets cost more than £30.
Football has changed. What we grew up with is gone and people just have to adapt. I earn decent money but i still target games which are affordable to take my kids to. The cup games (£50 for the family), I got West Ham tickets which were £110 for me and my 2 boys, and it is more of an occassional treat than something i could afford to do every week, especially as its 150m round trip. But just getting hold of tickets is bloody difficult, which speaks to the massive demand at Spurs.
What frustrates me is people simply blame everything on the ownership. I agree that the way they run the club is impersonal and what felt like a family club now feels like a corporation. They have failed there absolutely!
But what that corporate approach has delivered is amazing facilities and one of the strongest financial foundations in the league
People don't care about profits, they wont sing about profits but they will want Spurs to compete and spend big money and to do so, they need to earn big money.
While we may have one trophy in the last 20 years, to a lot of fans, and especially match going fans, football is about more than simply trophies. Everyone agrees it is simply not good enough for this club, no one is casually accepting failure, but for some the expectation is tempered because football is a way of life.
The fact you teach kids says it all really, Football is something to enjoy, to feel a part of, to bring emotion into your life, to feel part of something, to share with others, it's not just about trophies. We all love it, we would all play for free, we can't walk past a goal in a park and not kick a ball into it, or screw up a piece of paper at work and not try and volley it into the waste paper bin.
This ownership have not done everything right but in many respects they have just gone with the flow.
A club like BHA might be a truly family club, but they will never ever achieve what Spurs have and can. They will remain a nice club, dependent on making money of well sourced buys and hoping to make top half. If this was Spurs, acting all nice and friendly in our 36k WHL relic stadium, the ownership would be getting abuse for this too.
Football is cut throat at the very top. Huge business run by billionaire owners and investment companies. We will never see ticket prices drop, at any club. You will not get the personal family friendly touch in a 65k seater stadium which cost £1bn to build.
Much of what people have anger with would be more accurately directed at how football has changed, not how our owners behave. They are not perfect have and continue to make mistakes and poor decisions. But we are now in a position where we are extremely well placed financially to be able to compete. We have seen much increased spending on transfers and now that the coach and backroom staff seem to be good appointments, we are seeing that money being better spent and the football being far more entertaining with clear potential to get better and better.
That comes at a cost and sadly a cost for some which is too much to afford. Whether we become successful remains to be seen but we are at least in a financial place now where that possibility is realistic. If trophies truly are you only measure then this financial position should please you because it is the only way we stand any chance of success anytime soon.
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posted on 12/3/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
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Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
posted on 13/3/24
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
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Great.
When exactly are we going to compete with the top clubs then?
The 12th of Never?
posted on 13/3/24
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
posted on 13/3/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season
posted on 13/3/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But these are not for the classical operas are they?
However I do take your point👍
The ROH has to utilise its premises like any organisation to maximise revenue and operating costs. Just like THFC do🤔
posted on 13/3/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again sizzle you are failing to see the whole picture. The club is being run in a viable and sustainable manner so that a) we comply with any FFP or Financial Sustainability measures in place now and in the future.
b) We can afford to bring in quality players who not only play good football but look like at least giving us a good opportunity of competing on all fronts.
If you check our transfer record over the past 12 months it is as good as anyone in the PL without threatening the club’s FFP performance. We probably have the best financial position of most, if not all the other clubs in the PL.
Getting richer as a club is not a crime but is very necessary if we want to compete with the other top clubs.
Real Madrid dominated because they finessed their way around the financial rules with the help of Madrid council officials, doing things like buying Real’s training ground for vast money and then leasing it back to them for peanuts.
Bayern are relatively cheap with tickets because 50% of the club is owned by the fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Great.
When exactly are we going to compete with the top clubs then?
The 12th of Never?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sizzle…………..we have just had nearly 4 years of horrible football during a pandemic and no crowds for a year plus 2 managers who bored our fans to tears and achieved minimal success.
We have now got a manager/coach who seems to have been made for Spurs with his style of football being loved by everybody in football.
Yes it has some issues in terms of our high line, but I would much prefer this to the very stark and defensive minded football served up by Mourinho and Conte.
Ange is also a pragmatist, he acknowledges that the fans have suffered and has not promised that things will be solved over night. However, you cannot deny that the football has been nothing short of brilliant at times & we would be in a much better position if it hadn’t been for the period from and including the Chelsea game. Suspensions (which should have been avoided and were stupid) and injuries robbed us of our complete backline which is the team’s backbone and starting platform.
Yes, we should have beaten Fulham in the Carabao Cup but there is no guarantee that we would have won it.
We lost out to the PL, CL and World Club Champions in the FA Cup by a single goal and still without several key players.
Since 2022 we have spent over £385m on players and it is now showing how good our recruitment has been in the past two years as opposed to the previous 5 years.
This spend far exceeds the money we spend pre 2022.
So the club is moving in the right direction with the best stadium in Europe and possibly the World, greater revenues in all directions which means more money available for new players of the right calibre.
When you realise how much City, Chelsea & Arsenal have spent we are obviously behind them in spending terms but have a much more sustainable future.
Arsenal’s wages have increased by over £100m this year alone. Chelsea have almost a “supermarket sweep” mentality spending over £100bn in the hope (failure there) that it somehow means rapid success.
I understand people’s frustrations re price hikes, but Spurs are like any other organisation in that they too have vastly inflated costs in terms of wages, food & beverages, maintenance and of course budgeting for bringing in new players for Ange.
This is not an apology for Levy, but he has with his corporate team has made the club one of the best run and financially stable clubs in Workd football. We should at least recognise and acknowledge that. All income is re-invested right a cross the club and THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
People also moan about Levy’s salary at c36m, well if you look at other organisations with the same turnover then it is in line with market practices.
posted on 13/3/24
Sorry that is meant to be c£6m and not £36m
posted on 13/3/24
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Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Well, this discussion of ticket prices under Levy & ENIC is most interesting!
70GBP is a little high, it must be admitteded. A football match is somewhat like an opera.... the players get up and sing in thier own ways....
And....
Tickets for Main Stage performances at Covent Garden run from as little as £4, and a third of those available are under £50.
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Ted
Not sure when you last went to Covent Garden, tickets for Madam Butterfly start at £49 and rise to £245.
The Flying Dutchman is £75-£210.
At my local theatre in Milton Keynes when they have opera on tickets go up to £85.
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GG... ticket prices straight from the horse's mouth.....
--------https://www.roh.org.uk/news/booking-now-open-for-the-royal-opera-house-2022-23-season--------------------------------------------------------------
I kid you not!
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But these are not for the classical operas are they?
However I do take your point👍
The ROH has to utilise its premises like any organisation to maximise revenue and operating costs. Just like THFC do🤔
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The prices are for ANY performance at Covent garden. Here is their complete house pricing....enjoy..
http://static.roh.org.uk/seatmaps/2016-17/autumn/autumn-seat-price-plan-201617.pdf
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