The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
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All very good points Mersey, but why is Rudders still in place? Only because Top can't see he's the problem.
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
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All very good points Mersey, but why is Rudders still in place? Only because Top can't see he's the problem.
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Mersey will not answer this point Nuneaton, I must have asked him nearly 10 times. All he will say is ‘I still trust Top and I really like Whelan and think they are the right people to lead us forward’. Whenever you counter that with the logical argument that Top and Whelan are themselves still failing by keeping Rudkin in post - he stops responding. He won’t respond to this
When he says ‘I hope the longer term stability can be bought back by improvements on the playing side’ he fails to understand that his argument falls flat given the fact that he’s acknowledged himself that the person responsible for the playing side who is still in post isn’t competent
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posted on 6/4/24
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
posted on 6/4/24
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
posted on 6/4/24
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
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All very good points Mersey, but why is Rudders still in place? Only because Top can't see he's the problem.
posted on 6/4/24
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 29 minutes ago
The affection is unsurprising Mersey - I think you could have written it. It’s a very good articulate post but still misses the point around Rudkin in my opinion - in particular the fact that he is still in post clearly demonstrates that Top and the ownership have not learned the lessons from our financial and sporting failures and that it’s further proof we cannot succeed in the long term under their ownership. To be fair to KTF, he does acknowledge that in the follow up - something you do tend to actively avoid acknowledging if I can say that
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Well I couldn’t have written it, it was far more articulate than anything I would write. But I actually think we’re all more aligned than you think on Rudkin.
I agree with your views that he oversaw the overspending, the poor recruitment and wage structure failure. He oversaw the errors in not selling players when we could command a fee. He is culpable for a lot of the damage and we should restructure the leadership of the playing side under new leadership. We all agree on that I think.
Where we differ is I still think Whelan and Top are the right people to lead the club. I really like Whelan and I feel that she is a very accomplished executive that understands business and the personal battier of football and its link to the fans. And I still see Top trying to invest in our club for the long term future with stadium and training ground plans. Yes we’ve made some bad mistakes in the short term and they could hurt us for a very long time, but I hope the longer term stability can be brought back by Top and Whelan under stronger leadership on the playing side.
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All very good points Mersey, but why is Rudders still in place? Only because Top can't see he's the problem.
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Mersey will not answer this point Nuneaton, I must have asked him nearly 10 times. All he will say is ‘I still trust Top and I really like Whelan and think they are the right people to lead us forward’. Whenever you counter that with the logical argument that Top and Whelan are themselves still failing by keeping Rudkin in post - he stops responding. He won’t respond to this
posted on 6/4/24
When he says ‘I hope the longer term stability can be bought back by improvements on the playing side’ he fails to understand that his argument falls flat given the fact that he’s acknowledged himself that the person responsible for the playing side who is still in post isn’t competent
posted on 6/4/24
You see? He’s scarpered!
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