Also how are you giving up on 4th already
You’re battling Villa for it, who are in uncharted territory, it’s not a foregone conclusion by any means.
All that matters to me this season is getting our hands on the 1st piece of silverware since 96. Playing in The Champions League would be a novelty and the money is good but our squad fully fit, plus some new faces is Europa. We're progressing nicely and that is the next step up. That and doing better in The Domestic Cups overall.
4th/5th doesn't bother me in the slightest. Getting knocked out by Lille would be a crusher.
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
West Ham should be beating Leverkusen anyway as they look very beatable. Atalanta sit 6th in Serie A so shouldn't cause Liverpool any problems.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
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there are some paths even with arsenal losing tonight. Not interested in exploring the other possibilities
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
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there are some paths even with arsenal losing tonight. Not interested in exploring the other possibilities
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So you're cheering for West Ham
nah they can both get knocked out and it's still somewhat realistic. would need all 3 of the German teams to get knocked out in the Semis and both villa and city to progress to the final
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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I love how so many Spurs fans are looking for a way for us to qualify for the CL in 5th place WITHOUT Arsenal winning.
It's not realistically possible. We need them to go through. What's the big deal? They'll play City or Madrid in the semis anyway so they're not going any further.
I'm torn with the whole CL v Europa thing. I recognise that we're nowhere near good enough to win the CL but at the rebuild stage we're in, the boost it would give in terms of budget and recruitment surely trumps any Europa League place. Right now we need better players to compete. In order to do that, we need money and profile, which is what the CL gives you. Sure, we'd be one of the favourites for the EL but I'd much rather be dining at the top table and winning the biggest trophies than settling for the second rate stuff. Without the ability for the biggest clubs to drop into the Europa from the CL anymore, as much as it would make it easier for us, it does diminish the glamour of the competition.
Then there's the players. Those lads out there want CL. If we qualify, it helps them keep faith in the Ange project. So much of what he offers regarding team talks centres around him inspiring the group. If you lose that respected edge, your ability to inspire diminishes. I do wonder whether the players will see missing out on CL as a failure of some kind, particularly after those first 12 games.
I think we can win the Europa League but if we really want to kick on, I think we ultimately need to qualify for the CL.
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 24 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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It becomes incredibly difficult. Leverkusen can put all their eggs in the Europa basket now, they have zero distractions until May 25th for the German cup final - they will likely win the comp unless Liverpool pull off the miracle.
City might go through but would they win both home and away to Bayern - I’m not convinced. PSG are flakey, I can’t see Dortmund losing both legs.
City and Villa winning their comps might be enough, but it’s starting to look unlikely unless Arsenal win tonight - which I cannot see or Liverpool pull off another comeback - unlikely but they have form so wouldn’t rule out
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 33 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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We could do with Liverpool winning, even if eliminated, Villa winning even though they just need a draw. City winning without a shoot out is an absolute must.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Definitely questions being asked of Arsenal's mentalty.
Last season it was the loss of a couple key players led to a drop off...fair enough.
This season, with the much hyped Rice, and they get turned over at home in a key game, and allowed Bayern to score twice at Emirates, a team that has already come 2nd in a one horse race.
Massive test for them tonight, and one which I cannot see them winning. They've been choking it in recent weeks.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Definitely questions being asked of Arsenal's mentalty.
Last season it was the loss of a couple key players led to a drop off...fair enough.
This season, with the much hyped Rice, and they get turned over at home in a key game, and allowed Bayern to score twice at Emirates, a team that has already come 2nd in a one horse race.
Massive test for them tonight, and one which I cannot see them winning. They've been choking it in recent weeks.
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I think if they persist with Arteta then he will eventually get it right when Pep leaves. But with Pep here, you literally have to win every game, you can’t afford 1 off day in the run in - and that’s what he and his team had on Sunday. He second guessed himself, started the very average Zinchenko and watched the game ebb away.
They now have to go to Germany on the back of a bad result that could be fatal for their title chances - I don’t believe for a second they have it in them to get this done, but will happily take my lumps if I am wrong
I hope Bayern absolutely smash arsenal tonight.
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 14 minutes ago
I hope Bayern absolutely smash arsenal tonight.
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I’ll get dogs abuse for this but I hope Arsenal sneak a win. I’m so confident that they’ll fail in the semis that I’m willing to risk it if it means killing off German opposition. I’m more concerned with our progress than theirs. Aware this is a very unpopular opinion though.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 33 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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We could do with Liverpool winning, even if eliminated, Villa winning even though they just need a draw. City winning without a shoot out is an absolute must.
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yep it's gonna be tight either way I suspect, every point will help
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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I really don’t care about the result tbh , not proving anyone wrong or alike, just think it’s foolish and a bit dumb to say they don’t stand a chance.
Anyway we will reconvene at 10pm
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Nice one strike mug ffs. Was looking forward to Bayern winning, now Arsenal are going through.
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Nice one strike mug ffs. Was looking forward to Bayern winning, now Arsenal are going through.
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Don’t worry Sissy Wolf, I have zero bearing on the outcome
comment by We've got Ali (U14842)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
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My sums have a different outcome:
2 wins (2 x 2pts) and 2 draws (2 x 1pt) and 2 teams progressing (2 x 1pt) make 8 in total. Divided by 8 give England another 1 coefficient point - total 17.5
A win and progression for Bayern (3 points) and a draw and progress for Leverkusen (2 points) gives them 5, divided by 7 = 0.714 coefficient points = Total 17.982.
Comfortably ahead of us.
If this happens, the key will be City beating Munich in both SF legs, Villa winning their comp, preferably with wins in both SF legs
It would help if Villa won tonight but also if Arsenal lost on pens, as its still seen a a draw (1 point) but no advancement point.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by We've got Ali (U14842)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
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My sums have a different outcome:
2 wins (2 x 2pts) and 2 draws (2 x 1pt) and 2 teams progressing (2 x 1pt) make 8 in total. Divided by 8 give England another 1 coefficient point - total 17.5
A win and progression for Bayern (3 points) and a draw and progress for Leverkusen (2 points) gives them 5, divided by 7 = 0.714 coefficient points = Total 17.982.
Comfortably ahead of us.
If this happens, the key will be City beating Munich in both SF legs, Villa winning their comp, preferably with wins in both SF legs
It would help if Villa won tonight but also if Arsenal lost on pens, as its still seen a a draw (1 point) but no advancement point.
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It’s nip and tuck now. I’m not convinced City will get through tonight, let alone win. Villa is tight as well, Lille could easily win that by a goal and knock them out on pens.
I just think it’s slipped away now - 3 German teams in the semi and 2 English at most has sunk us
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posted 4 weeks ago
Also how are you giving up on 4th already
You’re battling Villa for it, who are in uncharted territory, it’s not a foregone conclusion by any means.
posted 4 weeks ago
All that matters to me this season is getting our hands on the 1st piece of silverware since 96. Playing in The Champions League would be a novelty and the money is good but our squad fully fit, plus some new faces is Europa. We're progressing nicely and that is the next step up. That and doing better in The Domestic Cups overall.
4th/5th doesn't bother me in the slightest. Getting knocked out by Lille would be a crusher.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
posted 4 weeks ago
West Ham should be beating Leverkusen anyway as they look very beatable. Atalanta sit 6th in Serie A so shouldn't cause Liverpool any problems.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
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there are some paths even with arsenal losing tonight. Not interested in exploring the other possibilities
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Because of the fact that points are rewarded for each match and not just each tie, it's basically pointless trying to predict the coefficient stuff. It's too variable.
For example, Liverpool beating Atalanta on Thursday but not going through would still give England an extra 2 coefficient points
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The coefficeint points are divided by the number of participants. So England has had 8 teams in Europe, so a win adds 0.25 to the coefficient (2/8)
Germany had 7, so a win adds more to theirs.
You get a bonus of 1 point for going through, so 0.125 for ENglish clubs and slightly more for Germnay.
Basically to stand any chance, which does not rely on miracles like Liverpool & WHU going through, Spurs need Arsenal to go through.
If Arsenal go through and then the favourites with the comps - City, Leverkusen, Villa then England will probably edge it.
But as you say, winning is worth points. So Villa winning is worth more than Villa drawing or losing and going through on penalties. Liverpool & WHU winning adds points even if eliminated.
SO win win win draw win would be very useful even if we are only left with 3 in Europe (vs Germany's 2).
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there are some paths even with arsenal losing tonight. Not interested in exploring the other possibilities
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So you're cheering for West Ham
posted 4 weeks ago
nah they can both get knocked out and it's still somewhat realistic. would need all 3 of the German teams to get knocked out in the Semis and both villa and city to progress to the final
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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posted 4 weeks ago
I love how so many Spurs fans are looking for a way for us to qualify for the CL in 5th place WITHOUT Arsenal winning.
It's not realistically possible. We need them to go through. What's the big deal? They'll play City or Madrid in the semis anyway so they're not going any further.
I'm torn with the whole CL v Europa thing. I recognise that we're nowhere near good enough to win the CL but at the rebuild stage we're in, the boost it would give in terms of budget and recruitment surely trumps any Europa League place. Right now we need better players to compete. In order to do that, we need money and profile, which is what the CL gives you. Sure, we'd be one of the favourites for the EL but I'd much rather be dining at the top table and winning the biggest trophies than settling for the second rate stuff. Without the ability for the biggest clubs to drop into the Europa from the CL anymore, as much as it would make it easier for us, it does diminish the glamour of the competition.
Then there's the players. Those lads out there want CL. If we qualify, it helps them keep faith in the Ange project. So much of what he offers regarding team talks centres around him inspiring the group. If you lose that respected edge, your ability to inspire diminishes. I do wonder whether the players will see missing out on CL as a failure of some kind, particularly after those first 12 games.
I think we can win the Europa League but if we really want to kick on, I think we ultimately need to qualify for the CL.
posted 4 weeks ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 24 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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It becomes incredibly difficult. Leverkusen can put all their eggs in the Europa basket now, they have zero distractions until May 25th for the German cup final - they will likely win the comp unless Liverpool pull off the miracle.
City might go through but would they win both home and away to Bayern - I’m not convinced. PSG are flakey, I can’t see Dortmund losing both legs.
City and Villa winning their comps might be enough, but it’s starting to look unlikely unless Arsenal win tonight - which I cannot see or Liverpool pull off another comeback - unlikely but they have form so wouldn’t rule out
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 33 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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We could do with Liverpool winning, even if eliminated, Villa winning even though they just need a draw. City winning without a shoot out is an absolute must.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Definitely questions being asked of Arsenal's mentalty.
Last season it was the loss of a couple key players led to a drop off...fair enough.
This season, with the much hyped Rice, and they get turned over at home in a key game, and allowed Bayern to score twice at Emirates, a team that has already come 2nd in a one horse race.
Massive test for them tonight, and one which I cannot see them winning. They've been choking it in recent weeks.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Definitely questions being asked of Arsenal's mentalty.
Last season it was the loss of a couple key players led to a drop off...fair enough.
This season, with the much hyped Rice, and they get turned over at home in a key game, and allowed Bayern to score twice at Emirates, a team that has already come 2nd in a one horse race.
Massive test for them tonight, and one which I cannot see them winning. They've been choking it in recent weeks.
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I think if they persist with Arteta then he will eventually get it right when Pep leaves. But with Pep here, you literally have to win every game, you can’t afford 1 off day in the run in - and that’s what he and his team had on Sunday. He second guessed himself, started the very average Zinchenko and watched the game ebb away.
They now have to go to Germany on the back of a bad result that could be fatal for their title chances - I don’t believe for a second they have it in them to get this done, but will happily take my lumps if I am wrong
posted 4 weeks ago
I hope Bayern absolutely smash arsenal tonight.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 14 minutes ago
I hope Bayern absolutely smash arsenal tonight.
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I’ll get dogs abuse for this but I hope Arsenal sneak a win. I’m so confident that they’ll fail in the semis that I’m willing to risk it if it means killing off German opposition. I’m more concerned with our progress than theirs. Aware this is a very unpopular opinion though.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 33 minutes ago
it absolutely is realistically possible though, it's annoying that people keep making sweeping statements like this when they don't know better
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We could do with Liverpool winning, even if eliminated, Villa winning even though they just need a draw. City winning without a shoot out is an absolute must.
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yep it's gonna be tight either way I suspect, every point will help
posted 4 weeks ago
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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I really don’t care about the result tbh , not proving anyone wrong or alike, just think it’s foolish and a bit dumb to say they don’t stand a chance.
Anyway we will reconvene at 10pm
posted 4 weeks ago
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posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Nice one strike mug ffs. Was looking forward to Bayern winning, now Arsenal are going through.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 11 hours, 18 minutes ago
lol at those who think Arsenal will get through that tie tomorrow - absolutely no chance, they don’t have the minerals. At best it will be a heroic defeat.
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Bookmarked, could be another egg on face moment for Strike this evening.
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Very happy you have, they don’t stand a chance. If it’s one of those rare occasions where I am wrong then I will be on here fronting it up like I always do - you can be front of the line with the pelters Neo
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Nice one strike mug ffs. Was looking forward to Bayern winning, now Arsenal are going through.
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Don’t worry Sissy Wolf, I have zero bearing on the outcome
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by We've got Ali (U14842)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
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My sums have a different outcome:
2 wins (2 x 2pts) and 2 draws (2 x 1pt) and 2 teams progressing (2 x 1pt) make 8 in total. Divided by 8 give England another 1 coefficient point - total 17.5
A win and progression for Bayern (3 points) and a draw and progress for Leverkusen (2 points) gives them 5, divided by 7 = 0.714 coefficient points = Total 17.982.
Comfortably ahead of us.
If this happens, the key will be City beating Munich in both SF legs, Villa winning their comp, preferably with wins in both SF legs
It would help if Villa won tonight but also if Arsenal lost on pens, as its still seen a a draw (1 point) but no advancement point.
posted 4 weeks ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by We've got Ali (U14842)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've done some basic figures and if City win, Liverpool win but don't qualify, West ham draw / don't qualify and villa draw and qualify then even if Bayern win we are still leading marginally. Then it will be down to who does better between City & Villa vs Bayern, Dortmund & BL. It could go down to needing them to win their finals.
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My sums have a different outcome:
2 wins (2 x 2pts) and 2 draws (2 x 1pt) and 2 teams progressing (2 x 1pt) make 8 in total. Divided by 8 give England another 1 coefficient point - total 17.5
A win and progression for Bayern (3 points) and a draw and progress for Leverkusen (2 points) gives them 5, divided by 7 = 0.714 coefficient points = Total 17.982.
Comfortably ahead of us.
If this happens, the key will be City beating Munich in both SF legs, Villa winning their comp, preferably with wins in both SF legs
It would help if Villa won tonight but also if Arsenal lost on pens, as its still seen a a draw (1 point) but no advancement point.
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It’s nip and tuck now. I’m not convinced City will get through tonight, let alone win. Villa is tight as well, Lille could easily win that by a goal and knock them out on pens.
I just think it’s slipped away now - 3 German teams in the semi and 2 English at most has sunk us
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