One of our major problems is we keep conceding goals though (whether by set piece defending or otherwise), so to make his point about Kane doesn't really stick as well as it should because Kane's exclusion should have no bearing on the defence. We are conceding as many goals as we did last season. Let's be honest we'd almost all be in agreement that our current back 5 is better than last year's too.

You can make the point about Kane in so far as scoring and creating up front but we do still have a decent team without him. Our strongest first 11 is no worse than Villa's.

The defending is a huge problem. The space players have in and around our box, and the ease they get to it, is worrying. We've got really good individuals in the defence and midfield now, so it's down to Ange to sort out.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
One of our major problems is we keep conceding goals though (whether by set piece defending or otherwise), so to make his point about Kane doesn't really stick as well as it should because Kane's exclusion should have no bearing on the defence. We are conceding as many goals as we did last season. Let's be honest we'd almost all be in agreement that our current back 5 is better than last year's too.

You can make the point about Kane in so far as scoring and creating up front but we do still have a decent team without him. Our strongest first 11 is no worse than Villa's.
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I don't disagree with you, but Kane was one of our best defenders at set pieces, as well as being our best play maker and goal scorer. It can't be over overstated how much value he brought to our team. I'm 100% convinced that with the personnel that we've had this season, plus Kane that we would be doing considerably better.

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
One of our major problems is we keep conceding goals though (whether by set piece defending or otherwise), so to make his point about Kane doesn't really stick as well as it should because Kane's exclusion should have no bearing on the defence. We are conceding as many goals as we did last season. Let's be honest we'd almost all be in agreement that our current back 5 is better than last year's too.

You can make the point about Kane in so far as scoring and creating up front but we do still have a decent team without him. Our strongest first 11 is no worse than Villa's.
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I don't disagree with you, but Kane was one of our best defenders at set pieces, as well as being our best play maker and goal scorer. It can't be over overstated how much value he brought to our team. I'm 100% convinced that with the personnel that we've had this season, plus Kane that we would be doing considerably better.
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We'd definitely be doing better, I've said it myself, though it's clear now that if you stick Kane into this team, we'd still be suffering with our defence.

We need a new striker for sure but it's going to be difficult getting near to replacing Kane's quality. We just have to make sure we're making up for it by adding quality in other areas. Look at Arsenal with Aubameyang. He's a 20 goal a season striker and they let him go and while they've had nobody scoring as many goals as him since, they've raised the quality in other areas to make up for it and are even better. That's what we need to do. The ones we've got so far aren't giving us that.

Kane is a massive loss probably the best player in the world.

Yet we cannot lose sight of the fact we are a top six side. If it was on an aggregate basis we are a top six side.

Teams can knock on the door but ultimately they should not be usurping us.

We have played the least amount of games than any other premier league side. Every side in the top 10 barr bournmouth have had cup runs or Europe.

It is the manner of what we are doing we are being battered and look as bad as Sheffield United.

I just think everyone looks for excuses for Big Ange and im not up for a change of manager again but far too many excuses and not enough looking at all the facts.

Ange has defo alot to sort out. I'm not fan of this inverted fullbacks. I think it confuses the midfielders. One fullback going forward is ok but when both do, we are too open if our flakey forward lose the ball.

Our wingers, Son and BJ mainly, are weak in the press and can be bypassed to easily. Kulu just fouls players when they go by him and in dangerous areas lately.

We are to susceptible to crosses, again the wingers need to track their fullbacks but they hardly do.

He has alot to sort to out.

Just people desperate for it to work trying to make excuses. We are worse now than we were at the start of the season. That’s after a whole year of Ange coaching.

The drop off when the first eleven, mainly the fullbacks are injured is massive. He needs better reserves but his system defo has faults even when everyone is fit and if you have done your homework, defend in a low block, you will always have chances on the break.

I guess from Ange's pov we just keep the ball for 90 mins so you don't have to worry about defending lol.

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 minutes ago
One of our major problems is we keep conceding goals though (whether by set piece defending or otherwise), so to make his point about Kane doesn't really stick as well as it should because Kane's exclusion should have no bearing on the defence. We are conceding as many goals as we did last season. Let's be honest we'd almost all be in agreement that our current back 5 is better than last year's too.

You can make the point about Kane in so far as scoring and creating up front but we do still have a decent team without him. Our strongest first 11 is no worse than Villa's.
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I don't disagree with you, but Kane was one of our best defenders at set pieces, as well as being our best play maker and goal scorer. It can't be over overstated how much value he brought to our team. I'm 100% convinced that with the personnel that we've had this season, plus Kane that we would be doing considerably better.
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We are also a different team when we are more threatening.

What i have observed is that we are more dangerous with some variety up front. Johnson, Werner Son are all speedy. Son will finish given the chance but needs space that teams are not giving him. His ball retention is not great when battling CBs.

Richarlison add variety and changed the game vs Liverpool he came on and played really well, but for me it just gave us more balance in attack and Sons involvement also improved at LW.

It seems really easy to play against us by a low block and quick transition. Our attack seems to flounder against these deep packed defences and its just a matter of time until we lose the ball and the turnover sees us under attack in seconds.

We need to be cuter like City or Arsenal. Put the ball under threat but with some more precision and better judgement. Go direct when we have to. Move the ball quicker through transition ourselves, just to unsettle the opposition rather than letting the game fall into a pattern we see now where our attack struggles and we get exposed at the back.

I feel Ange's style demands a no.9 who will offer physicality, instinctive striker movements, hold/link up play and finishing. Richi isnt 100% in all these areas but when he has played this season he has delivered, especially since about October.

comment by Luka Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
The drop off when the first eleven, mainly the fullbacks are injured is massive. He needs better reserves but his system defo has faults even when everyone is fit and if you have done your homework, defend in a low block, you will always have chances on the break.

I guess from Ange's pov we just keep the ball for 90 mins so you don't have to worry about defending lol.
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Basically you got it there, we retain the ball and out score the opposition, but don't have the firepower or finese up top

Everything that has been said about our defence is true.

I guess my point is that it is easily forgotten how vitally important Kane was to us and we (Spurs fans) were all up in arms when the summer transfer window closed and a striker wasn't signed (as well as another CB).

Richarlson has had a decent run of late, but he's not of the quality that we need.

Johnson and Werner are too lightweight (although I still think Johnson can develop and become a real asset).

For all his hard work, Kulu predictably cuts in onto his left foot every single time and for some inexplicable reason seems very reluctant to shoot when in good positions.

We need to be much more of a threat in the final third to the opposition.

I thought what he said was he doesn't want to hire set piece specialist coaches? If he doesn't work on them period, that's kind of a massive problem

comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Just people desperate for it to work trying to make excuses. We are worse now than we were at the start of the season. That’s after a whole year of Ange coaching.
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This.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Just people desperate for it to work trying to make excuses. We are worse now than we were at the start of the season. That’s after a whole year of Ange coaching.
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This.
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I don't agree that we're doomed. I live in hope that this is the blip we all expected post-Harry whilst Ange builds the team in his image. The trouble is that it's hard to know what "change" means for Ange. Three of his back four are relatively new and I've no doubt he's happy with them all so that begs the question, if we're conceding as many as we are, is Ange looking for players in midfield and attack that are more adept at defending from the front? We score. We've had no trouble there so you have to assume we're not doing our defensive work in the front third as well as he wants us to. The more I think about it, the more I think this isn't about finding someone who can mop up in defence. I just think he wants players up top that chase like rabid dogs for 90 minutes, a bit like Klopp's early days at Liverpool.

I wouldn't lose hope. We'll get absolutely nowhere sacking another manager but i understand your point. What is it about Ange that makes the fan base believe it'll come good? What really sets him apart from Ossie Ardiles? I dn't know why it feels different but it just does and I'm happy to let this one play out in the hope that we can somehow rediscover the edge we had at the start of the year.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Just people desperate for it to work trying to make excuses. We are worse now than we were at the start of the season. That’s after a whole year of Ange coaching.
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This.
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I don't agree that we're doomed. I live in hope that this is the blip we all expected post-Harry whilst Ange builds the team in his image. The trouble is that it's hard to know what "change" means for Ange. Three of his back four are relatively new and I've no doubt he's happy with them all so that begs the question, if we're conceding as many as we are, is Ange looking for players in midfield and attack that are more adept at defending from the front? We score. We've had no trouble there so you have to assume we're not doing our defensive work in the front third as well as he wants us to. The more I think about it, the more I think this isn't about finding someone who can mop up in defence. I just think he wants players up top that chase like rabid dogs for 90 minutes, a bit like Klopp's early days at Liverpool.

I wouldn't lose hope. We'll get absolutely nowhere sacking another manager but i understand your point. What is it about Ange that makes the fan base believe it'll come good? What really sets him apart from Ossie Ardiles? I dn't know why it feels different but it just does and I'm happy to let this one play out in the hope that we can somehow rediscover the edge we had at the start of the year.
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Not saying we’re doomed, but we’ve definitely regressed since the beginning of the season.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Just people desperate for it to work trying to make excuses. We are worse now than we were at the start of the season. That’s after a whole year of Ange coaching.
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This.
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I don't agree that we're doomed. I live in hope that this is the blip we all expected post-Harry whilst Ange builds the team in his image. The trouble is that it's hard to know what "change" means for Ange. Three of his back four are relatively new and I've no doubt he's happy with them all so that begs the question, if we're conceding as many as we are, is Ange looking for players in midfield and attack that are more adept at defending from the front? We score. We've had no trouble there so you have to assume we're not doing our defensive work in the front third as well as he wants us to. The more I think about it, the more I think this isn't about finding someone who can mop up in defence. I just think he wants players up top that chase like rabid dogs for 90 minutes, a bit like Klopp's early days at Liverpool.

I wouldn't lose hope. We'll get absolutely nowhere sacking another manager but i understand your point. What is it about Ange that makes the fan base believe it'll come good? What really sets him apart from Ossie Ardiles? I dn't know why it feels different but it just does and I'm happy to let this one play out in the hope that we can somehow rediscover the edge we had at the start of the year.
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Not saying we’re doomed, but we’ve definitely regressed since the beginning of the season.
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I agree, we definitely have but I'm willing to give Ange the time to turn it around. In the summer I'm sure we'll have a clear out and some of his lads will come in. If we're still shipping goals by Christmas I think we can legitimately say it's not going to work.Trouble is, I don't know how we improve on what we have with the budget we currently work under.

The team has certainly regressed towards the end of the season, but the journey to getting to where Ange wants to take us (challenging for major trophies) is not a linear one. There was always going to be ups and downs.

I will certainly join the chorus that now exists among some of our fans of calling for Ange's head if next season follows a similar pattern. But for now, I am happy to give Ange my support because he seems hell bent on changing the mentality and fortunes of our club.

"I actually thought our performance against Liverpool was much better, but we had zero cutting edge."

I've seen a few comments along those lines ... Total neutral, but on another day Liverpool (a team with nothing much to play for) could have scored double figures in that game. As a 'Tic fan I'm hoping Ange gets more time with you guys, but the number of chances being coughed up in games is becoming pretty alarming ... Man U-esque, in fact.

My only concern with Ange is that he's now crying for new players when it's pretty clear to most experts that teams are playing narrower against us, making it hard to create down the middle. So is it really down to a need for better players or just a need to tweak the system a little to give the players we have more space? One or two players can be off form but when it's the entire team, something else is usually at play.

After the Utd home game, Ange was saying that ETH should shut -up about not being able to play the football he wants to because he doesn’t have the players. Something like “Just play your way no matter what, mate”

Now he’s saying he can’t play the way he wants because he doesn’t have the players.

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 51 minutes ago
"I actually thought our performance against Liverpool was much better, but we had zero cutting edge."

I've seen a few comments along those lines ... Total neutral, but on another day Liverpool (a team with nothing much to play for) could have scored double figures in that game. As a 'Tic fan I'm hoping Ange gets more time with you guys, but the number of chances being coughed up in games is becoming pretty alarming ... Man U-esque, in fact.
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Anyone saying that is deluded.

Apparently Ange has already achieved more points in his first full season than Norbert and Captain Scarlet did in their first full seasons

comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 19 minutes ago
Apparently Ange has already achieved more points in his first full season than Norbert and Captain Scarlet did in their first full seasons
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Didn’t Lego head win the FA Cup?

Either way, it’s about how they are backed after the first season and we know what happens this years “Most Important Summer Ever”

One thing I do not understand.....
we have the best back four in the league...
Porro, Romero, VDV, Udogie.
And a very good Goalie.

Why are we leaking goals?

If its not down to the coach's tactic (singular) then WHAT?

Also, if we'd played all game like we played the last 20 mins at Pool, we'd have come away with a point.

wtf was he doing bringing on Bryan fa cking Gil when we have Moore and Donnelly desperate to get game time?

Unforgivable