Israel, UK and the US have never wanted peace in the Middle East. Their worries are all them Arab countries possibly uniting amongst other things.
———
Henry Kissinger had them all at each others throats, terrified of a United Middle East
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
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Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
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Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
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Agreed. Remove Israel so that the middle east can go back to domestic genocide instead.
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posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
Iran has nukes now haven't they? 😯😯
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No not yet, but biggest worry is Israel Rabbis openly requested their political leaders to use them against Iran and other enemies. I have no doubt of Israel are heavily attacked they will use their nuclear weapons.
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Well, yeah, they've made it abundantly clear what happens if aggressive action is taken against them, yet people still think it's a good idea to take aggressive action against them.
Current opposition to Israel is a collective king canute. Don't think we're far off going extinct.
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posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
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posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
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Agreed. Remove Israel so that the middle east can go back to domestic genocide instead.
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Go back to domestic genocide instead? Nope, that wouldnt have been an issue.
The creation of Israel is but one of many issues created there. Removing Israel would be one of the many steps needed to undo the damage done by western colonial policies. The kings and princes of many Arab nations are here today thanks to them. Removal of them would be another step. They're all practically Western Educated. Look into the King of Jordan. And Iran is what it is today due to Western Interference. Like I said before, there is a need to keep the Arabs disunited. Israel is but one mechanism. But taking away Israel removes one of the biggest obstacles to peace within the region.
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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Yeah it’s a complete fantasy, and historically inaccurate nonsense.
Iran too worried about an uprising at home to try.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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Israel should have never been created in the first place. And the two state solution is dead due to Israel never wanting a two state solution in the first place. This leaves only a one state solution for Equal rights for all it's inhabitants. That does mean the death of Israel as it is now, an ethno Jewish state that has a two tier system where one race is advantaged over others and has practises that put Jim Crow to shame.
It's already too late for other regional powers to play nice as they've already drawn their lines and alliegences. Saudi is on the side of the West as it is with their help the house of Saud came to power and keeps its power. The death of the journalist in Saudi Embassy and the tame reaction should have been enough to show that western governments don't actually care.
Iran is the way it is thanks to the western meddling. And when they tried to appease western powers regarding their nuclear ambitions, we saw what happened. Trump has shown any Western deal can be broken just because they want to even when you've met all your side of the agreement. And the reaction to North Korea shows that having a nuclear arsenal actually makes more sense than it does. If I were in Iran shoes, a nuclear deterrent would be a must. Regardless of it setting of a nuclear arms race in the ME. That cat had been out of the bag long before, i.e. Israel.
As long as Israel as it is now exists, and western need for control and resources and keeping the Arabs disunited are their aims, there will never be peace in the Middle East. The West simply doesn't want it.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 hours, 39 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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USA is both the major Israeli sponsor and one of the few countries that could accommodate the Israelis. They could also use their specialist secret forces skills. There are probably a whole bunch of islamists they'd like to send in exchange as well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro
Israel normalises this sort of behaviour.
You have people trying to protect r@p1$ts
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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That is disgusting, even for you
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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That is disgusting, even for you
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what's disgusting?
It's just a discussion about a social problem in that part of the world
unless you think generation after generation of 1st cousin marriage is a good thing?
it's clearly not
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 1 day, 23 hours ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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Not really going to deal with this red herring. Or really care about what Rogan says.
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
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posted 35 seconds ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
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Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 35 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Lmfao it’s actually incredible that you can’t see the irony of your own comments. I’d like to meet an Iran supporter because I haven’t met any on here. However, there are plenty of deranged psychopaths on here, yourself included, who mindlessly twerk for the baby killing, hostage raaping, genocidal IDF.
You could not make it up.
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
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Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
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Last Train to Zona Verde? Yep, I thought the same..
Dark Star Safari and Riding the Iron Rooster are probably 2 of the best books I've ever read regardless of genre.
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
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Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
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Last Train to Zona Verde? Yep, I thought the same..
Dark Star Safari and Riding the Iron Rooster are probably 2 of the best books I've ever read regardless of genre.
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I have Iron Rooster here, will read that next
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape
I remember a few years ago a British woman was also GRed in Cyprus or Greece and the attackers were allowed to leave while the victim was badgered into withdrawing the complaint.
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posted on 4/8/24
Israel, UK and the US have never wanted peace in the Middle East. Their worries are all them Arab countries possibly uniting amongst other things.
———
Henry Kissinger had them all at each others throats, terrified of a United Middle East
posted on 4/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
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Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
posted on 4/8/24
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
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Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
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Agreed. Remove Israel so that the middle east can go back to domestic genocide instead.
posted on 4/8/24
comment by LAMCAM 🧿Liverpool🧿 (U18537)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
Iran has nukes now haven't they? 😯😯
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No not yet, but biggest worry is Israel Rabbis openly requested their political leaders to use them against Iran and other enemies. I have no doubt of Israel are heavily attacked they will use their nuclear weapons.
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Well, yeah, they've made it abundantly clear what happens if aggressive action is taken against them, yet people still think it's a good idea to take aggressive action against them.
Current opposition to Israel is a collective king canute. Don't think we're far off going extinct.
posted on 5/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
its laughable how people wont condemn the side they like regardless of the facked up things they'll do
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It really is. Hate what Israel stands for and hate all the terrorist affiliates to Palestine. But yet I can see what escalated this current crisis.
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No you can’t, you’re chatting shiiit by saying this all started in October 7th
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This current situation escalated on Oct 7th, thats a simple fact. You know, 3000 rockets and killing 1139 people in one terrorist attack will trigger things like wars.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Such an attack was only a matter of time. You've had Israel killing Palestinians, taking land and imprisoning people for whatever reason and none. Then you had Saudo looking to normalise relationship with Israel, basically giving Israel carte blanche in carrying out their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Blaming Hamas solely for the failure of the likes of US and other nations of actually offering a viable deal (and no, not even the much touted deal back in the earl 2000s was a viable deal) has led to this.
If there was no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East. There is only one country that doesn't want Peace. And they're even wanting to push for Greater Israel. There is a reason why they are attacking Lebanon and Iran. They want a conflict to go occupy more land.
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Agreed. Remove Israel so that the middle east can go back to domestic genocide instead.
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Go back to domestic genocide instead? Nope, that wouldnt have been an issue.
The creation of Israel is but one of many issues created there. Removing Israel would be one of the many steps needed to undo the damage done by western colonial policies. The kings and princes of many Arab nations are here today thanks to them. Removal of them would be another step. They're all practically Western Educated. Look into the King of Jordan. And Iran is what it is today due to Western Interference. Like I said before, there is a need to keep the Arabs disunited. Israel is but one mechanism. But taking away Israel removes one of the biggest obstacles to peace within the region.
posted on 5/8/24
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
posted on 5/8/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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Yeah it’s a complete fantasy, and historically inaccurate nonsense.
posted on 5/8/24
Iran too worried about an uprising at home to try.
posted on 5/8/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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Israel should have never been created in the first place. And the two state solution is dead due to Israel never wanting a two state solution in the first place. This leaves only a one state solution for Equal rights for all it's inhabitants. That does mean the death of Israel as it is now, an ethno Jewish state that has a two tier system where one race is advantaged over others and has practises that put Jim Crow to shame.
It's already too late for other regional powers to play nice as they've already drawn their lines and alliegences. Saudi is on the side of the West as it is with their help the house of Saud came to power and keeps its power. The death of the journalist in Saudi Embassy and the tame reaction should have been enough to show that western governments don't actually care.
Iran is the way it is thanks to the western meddling. And when they tried to appease western powers regarding their nuclear ambitions, we saw what happened. Trump has shown any Western deal can be broken just because they want to even when you've met all your side of the agreement. And the reaction to North Korea shows that having a nuclear arsenal actually makes more sense than it does. If I were in Iran shoes, a nuclear deterrent would be a must. Regardless of it setting of a nuclear arms race in the ME. That cat had been out of the bag long before, i.e. Israel.
As long as Israel as it is now exists, and western need for control and resources and keeping the Arabs disunited are their aims, there will never be peace in the Middle East. The West simply doesn't want it.
posted on 5/8/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 hours, 39 minutes ago
The Israeli state has acted despicably in its oppression and dispossession of the Palestinian people, and as a belligerent force in the region. But doesn't 'taking away Israel' as a proposed solution have uncomfortable resonances? What does that mean in practical terms? What does it mean for the ~7 million Jewish Israelis?
I suspect it's wishful thinking to imagine that the other major regional powers Iran and Saudi Arabia will evolve into benign forces if Israel is taken out of the equation.
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USA is both the major Israeli sponsor and one of the few countries that could accommodate the Israelis. They could also use their specialist secret forces skills. There are probably a whole bunch of islamists they'd like to send in exchange as well.
posted on 6/8/24
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro
Israel normalises this sort of behaviour.
You have people trying to protect r@p1$ts
posted on 6/8/24
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/
posted on 6/8/24
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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That is disgusting, even for you
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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That is disgusting, even for you
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what's disgusting?
It's just a discussion about a social problem in that part of the world
unless you think generation after generation of 1st cousin marriage is a good thing?
it's clearly not
posted on 8/8/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 1 day, 23 hours ago
I agree with most of what you say CurrentlyinChina
The joker in the pack though in this part of the world, as explained by Rogan is inbreeding
Alot of medical problems like genetic disorders & low IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikauQstC7mI
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Not really going to deal with this red herring. Or really care about what Rogan says.
posted on 9/8/24
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
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Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 35 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Lmfao it’s actually incredible that you can’t see the irony of your own comments. I’d like to meet an Iran supporter because I haven’t met any on here. However, there are plenty of deranged psychopaths on here, yourself included, who mindlessly twerk for the baby killing, hostage raaping, genocidal IDF.
You could not make it up.
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
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Last Train to Zona Verde? Yep, I thought the same..
Dark Star Safari and Riding the Iron Rooster are probably 2 of the best books I've ever read regardless of genre.
posted on 9/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
Reading a Paul Theroux book and he just mentioned how Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields, march them across first to clear the path.
People here defend and back Irans actions ffs. Madness.
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Which book?
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Ghost train to the Eastern Star
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That's on my 'To read' list.
I've read most, if not all of his other travel books.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah read most of them. Great travel writer.
Forget the title but the last African one was among the best he just gives up in the end and is like, what's the point, Africa is fecked.
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Last Train to Zona Verde? Yep, I thought the same..
Dark Star Safari and Riding the Iron Rooster are probably 2 of the best books I've ever read regardless of genre.
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I have Iron Rooster here, will read that next
posted on 9/8/24
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape
I remember a few years ago a British woman was also GRed in Cyprus or Greece and the attackers were allowed to leave while the victim was badgered into withdrawing the complaint.
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