there may be a few weeks left of the window but as far as i'm concerned we are weeks behind.
the desire to improve, to get business done, it's just not there at a boardroom level.
i wonder if any of them pick up a phone, like when we enquire about a player, whats the next step when we get a response, does it take them weeks for agree on the next step? it genuinely feels like thats the case.
whatever they are doing, its wrong.
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.
Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.
Rangers as the expected second place are awful to watch. I have no doubt they will pick up wins by just having better quality players on the park rather than out playing their opponents but if they continue to play like they have done so far they will also drop points to a fair few teams
i'm of the opinion that football clubs exist to be as best as possible at football, for the fans.
we are a football club, not a money collecting club, not a car insurance company or whatever schite they are peddling now.
3 strips, every year, that some fans will go out and buy.
Not a single fan wants us to the club in financial peril , but they are absolutely not investing properly in the squad.
Football is the most important thing to the fans, money is the most important thing to the board.
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.
Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.
Rangers as the expected second place are awful to watch. I have no doubt they will pick up wins by just having better quality players on the park rather than out playing their opponents but if they continue to play like they have done so far they will also drop points to a fair few teams
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Celtic dont need to spend a penny to win the league this season. Even of they lose Reilly.
Rangers arent even close to being a team right now and dont have the money to add the required quality.
This season is a no contest.
Project Damage Limitation for Rangers.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jefte was booked for his first foul, which was a soft yellow, but can understand how it was given.
He then committed three fouls. Yellow for persistent fouling for three fouls, 4 in a game? That’s just as bad a call as saying the yellow was deserved.
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Mate, late studs on a foot is always getting a yellow in Europe.
According to UEFA it was 11 fouls versus 6 made by Dynamo. I wasn't watching but going by others' accounts Jefte sounded like he was responsible for half his team's fouls and in Europe it is simply the thresholds are different as well as there being more variation in ref interpretations.
The players and manager had to 'read the room' as they should be doing every game but yes, our own refs don't prepare us for Europe very well and our own fans don't help pressurising refs for trying to emulate Euro standards.
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Have said earlier I understand why the first foul was given, was simply meaning the yellow for persistent doesn’t make any sense.
But that was his first foul, he committed another three. Three fouls doesn’t add up to a yellow for persistent fouling.
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 20 minutes ago
mad they chased out goldson but kept souttar and davies.
Propper looks like a great alternative, there was a point last night he was up front and just stood staring at the ball as it dropped right in front of him
only annoying thing is you know peter is sitting there thinking we dont need to spend because rangers wont.
get that pwrick so far to fvck man.
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given the waged he was on, made sense, also given that he had interest in him.
Propper came from offside position hence why he left it.
That should say first yellow was given - no issues on that
Celtic dont need to spend a penny to win the league this season. Even of they lose Reilly.
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this isn't true imo
we were not good last season, and winning the league doesn't change that, we had big patches through the season filled with mediocrity and dropped points.
we knew in May we had to improve the squad and we haven't we mightjust get to be roughly where we were in May and if we sell O'Riley we are miles behind that, on a frightening scale.
take away the league, i don't believe there is a sinlge mind in that boardroom that actually understands the game of football, nobody in there right mind could possibly look at the left side of defence and think scales and taylor are the right guys for the champions league, it is mind blowing.
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
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I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
can't blame clement for being a clueless baldy fud, it's just who he is.
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
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Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however.
More rule tweaks this season - rainbow armbands no more amongst others.
https://www.theifab.com/law-changes/latest/
It will take years but eventually this latest bribe scandal will out
Why was the stadium not full last night ?
CL qualifiers are normally huge affairs, especially given it was a good pedigree team you faced
Don't understand why there was so many empty seats .
Is there a reluctance to fork out because its Hampden?
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
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That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s.
"Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however."
I'm not one for advocating contact with players heads...but is a contact sport FFS, and going this way is dangerous in terms of completely ruining the hame
If a defender makes a huge clearing header, and clears out the attackers in front of him while doing so, purely with his body weight....we saying pens should be given if there's contact with the head at any stage?
Same thing goes if a forward throws himself for a header.....played must be able to make attempts for these things, and that's all Jefte did
I'd see the point if he completely charged into the guy, he didn't, the defender jumped towards Jefte with about as much force if not more.than Jefte did towards him, and the only reason there's been "head contact" is because Jefte jumped higher, it's fcking ridiculous
"That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s."
At first I thought he was racist as he only booked our two black players whilst the Dynamo guy that tried to swap shirts with Dionmande got away with no yellow but then realized just how much "dirty" money is swilling around Ukraine these days and how good it would be for moral etc etc. Time will tell, but as ever it will take years.
And the foul was given for an elbow not persistent fouling
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
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That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s.
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I'd rather make the argument that the ref is just poor...really fcking poor...than some sort of back handed bias allegation, I'm not into that $hit
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why was the stadium not full last night ?
CL qualifiers are normally huge affairs, especially given it was a good pedigree team you faced
Don't understand why there was so many empty seats .
Is there a reluctance to fork out because its Hampden?
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Yea paying to go to Hampden with the team we have isn’t too appealing. Especially to folk that will travel.
Club will need to be very careful with how they price Europa matches, will be even worse. Will be another financial hit over and above not getting to CL
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 4 minutes ago
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
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comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 9 minutes ago
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
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lovely
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however."
I'm not one for advocating contact with players heads...but is a contact sport FFS, and going this way is dangerous in terms of completely ruining the hame
If a defender makes a huge clearing header, and clears out the attackers in front of him while doing so, purely with his body weight....we saying pens should be given if there's contact with the head at any stage?
Same thing goes if a forward throws himself for a header.....played must be able to make attempts for these things, and that's all Jefte did
I'd see the point if he completely charged into the guy, he didn't, the defender jumped towards Jefte with about as much force if not more.than Jefte did towards him, and the only reason there's been "head contact" is because Jefte jumped higher, it's fcking ridiculous
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All I'm saying is that is the way the game is going. Huge focus on dangerous play and fear of potential future industrial injury claims in in play and heading banned at lower age groups. I watch a fair bit in the US these days and their refs are blowing for almost anything - oooer missus but the head injury thing and the claim environment is significantly different TBF.
On a positive note Celtic are maybe ahead of the game in anticipating a heading ban hence the midget signing policy?
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posted on 14/8/24
there may be a few weeks left of the window but as far as i'm concerned we are weeks behind.
the desire to improve, to get business done, it's just not there at a boardroom level.
i wonder if any of them pick up a phone, like when we enquire about a player, whats the next step when we get a response, does it take them weeks for agree on the next step? it genuinely feels like thats the case.
whatever they are doing, its wrong.
posted on 14/8/24
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.
Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.
Rangers as the expected second place are awful to watch. I have no doubt they will pick up wins by just having better quality players on the park rather than out playing their opponents but if they continue to play like they have done so far they will also drop points to a fair few teams
posted on 14/8/24
i'm of the opinion that football clubs exist to be as best as possible at football, for the fans.
we are a football club, not a money collecting club, not a car insurance company or whatever schite they are peddling now.
3 strips, every year, that some fans will go out and buy.
Not a single fan wants us to the club in financial peril , but they are absolutely not investing properly in the squad.
Football is the most important thing to the fans, money is the most important thing to the board.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.
Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.
Rangers as the expected second place are awful to watch. I have no doubt they will pick up wins by just having better quality players on the park rather than out playing their opponents but if they continue to play like they have done so far they will also drop points to a fair few teams
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Celtic dont need to spend a penny to win the league this season. Even of they lose Reilly.
Rangers arent even close to being a team right now and dont have the money to add the required quality.
This season is a no contest.
Project Damage Limitation for Rangers.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jefte was booked for his first foul, which was a soft yellow, but can understand how it was given.
He then committed three fouls. Yellow for persistent fouling for three fouls, 4 in a game? That’s just as bad a call as saying the yellow was deserved.
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Mate, late studs on a foot is always getting a yellow in Europe.
According to UEFA it was 11 fouls versus 6 made by Dynamo. I wasn't watching but going by others' accounts Jefte sounded like he was responsible for half his team's fouls and in Europe it is simply the thresholds are different as well as there being more variation in ref interpretations.
The players and manager had to 'read the room' as they should be doing every game but yes, our own refs don't prepare us for Europe very well and our own fans don't help pressurising refs for trying to emulate Euro standards.
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Have said earlier I understand why the first foul was given, was simply meaning the yellow for persistent doesn’t make any sense.
But that was his first foul, he committed another three. Three fouls doesn’t add up to a yellow for persistent fouling.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 20 minutes ago
mad they chased out goldson but kept souttar and davies.
Propper looks like a great alternative, there was a point last night he was up front and just stood staring at the ball as it dropped right in front of him
only annoying thing is you know peter is sitting there thinking we dont need to spend because rangers wont.
get that pwrick so far to fvck man.
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given the waged he was on, made sense, also given that he had interest in him.
Propper came from offside position hence why he left it.
posted on 14/8/24
That should say first yellow was given - no issues on that
posted on 14/8/24
Celtic dont need to spend a penny to win the league this season. Even of they lose Reilly.
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this isn't true imo
we were not good last season, and winning the league doesn't change that, we had big patches through the season filled with mediocrity and dropped points.
we knew in May we had to improve the squad and we haven't we mightjust get to be roughly where we were in May and if we sell O'Riley we are miles behind that, on a frightening scale.
take away the league, i don't believe there is a sinlge mind in that boardroom that actually understands the game of football, nobody in there right mind could possibly look at the left side of defence and think scales and taylor are the right guys for the champions league, it is mind blowing.
posted on 14/8/24
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
posted on 14/8/24
their*
posted on 14/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
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I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
posted on 14/8/24
can't blame clement for being a clueless baldy fud, it's just who he is.
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 seconds ago
Can't get over the amount of people trying to say that Clement leaving Jefte on somehow excuse the ref of making an absolute howler
I understand the persistent fouling argument.....and would agree with it if Jefte actually fouled the guy when he jumped for that header...but therein lies the problem
He was sent off for absolutely fck all
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I dont believe it was even a foul either. Football is a contact sport and when two players go for a header there is always contact. Yes Jefte jumped higher than the lad so his arm brushed the boys neck but it was never a foul.
I think the point folk are saying was that the way the ref was falling for their antics and giving them fouls whenever a Rangers player went near them then Jefte was probably most at risk of being on the end of another really bad decision. Plus he wasnt playing particularly well so the sensible thing was to withdraw him.
You shouldnt need to withdraw a player to protect them from terrible refereeing but you could see where it was going with that red last night.
Kiev were comical - i am pretty sure that on more than one occasion they had two players down feigning injury at once. The number of times Rangers players were trying to get Kiev players back up on their feet just to get on with the game....
But thats European football I guess. Not the first time we have seen it and it wont be the last. We were just unfortunate we had a ref who fell for everything they did.
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Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however.
More rule tweaks this season - rainbow armbands no more amongst others.
https://www.theifab.com/law-changes/latest/
posted on 14/8/24
It will take years but eventually this latest bribe scandal will out
posted on 14/8/24
Why was the stadium not full last night ?
CL qualifiers are normally huge affairs, especially given it was a good pedigree team you faced
Don't understand why there was so many empty seats .
Is there a reluctance to fork out because its Hampden?
posted on 14/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
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That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s.
posted on 14/8/24
"Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however."
I'm not one for advocating contact with players heads...but is a contact sport FFS, and going this way is dangerous in terms of completely ruining the hame
If a defender makes a huge clearing header, and clears out the attackers in front of him while doing so, purely with his body weight....we saying pens should be given if there's contact with the head at any stage?
Same thing goes if a forward throws himself for a header.....played must be able to make attempts for these things, and that's all Jefte did
I'd see the point if he completely charged into the guy, he didn't, the defender jumped towards Jefte with about as much force if not more.than Jefte did towards him, and the only reason there's been "head contact" is because Jefte jumped higher, it's fcking ridiculous
posted on 14/8/24
"That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s."
At first I thought he was racist as he only booked our two black players whilst the Dynamo guy that tried to swap shirts with Dionmande got away with no yellow but then realized just how much "dirty" money is swilling around Ukraine these days and how good it would be for moral etc etc. Time will tell, but as ever it will take years.
And the foul was given for an elbow not persistent fouling
posted on 14/8/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
I've seen John Lundstram do far worse things both domestically and in Europe and stay on the park risking that second yellow for ages
The whole problem here is the referee and his ridiculous decision, so I won't blame Clement for being naive or whatever, the guy done fck all wrong in that instance....the same argument could've been applied to Diomande and I don't see the criticism of Clement there
The ref was and is the issue...this is a guy that's averaged 4.4 yellow cards per game throughout his career...a guy who at 42 and having been a Serie A ref for nearly 15 years, only just got to ref at a major tournament at the Euros in the summer there
For comparison, Willie Collum has brandished an average of 3.2 yellows pair game throughout his career.....Mike Dean, who was the most card happy ref in the Premier League, average of 3.4 per game
Refs a fcking idiot
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That's weird sh.t to pull him up for. I prefer the bribe accusation. He was also the guy that blew for HT at OT after 44m41s.
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I'd rather make the argument that the ref is just poor...really fcking poor...than some sort of back handed bias allegation, I'm not into that $hit
posted on 14/8/24
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
posted on 14/8/24
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 5 minutes ago
Why was the stadium not full last night ?
CL qualifiers are normally huge affairs, especially given it was a good pedigree team you faced
Don't understand why there was so many empty seats .
Is there a reluctance to fork out because its Hampden?
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Yea paying to go to Hampden with the team we have isn’t too appealing. Especially to folk that will travel.
Club will need to be very careful with how they price Europa matches, will be even worse. Will be another financial hit over and above not getting to CL
posted on 14/8/24
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 4 minutes ago
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
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posted on 14/8/24
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 9 minutes ago
was Jack Butland bribed anaw ?
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lovely
posted on 14/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Agree with pretty much all that. As to whether it was a foul or not it is 100% the way the game is heading that ANY contact to the head is deemed a foul. I'd like VAR to get involved in clear simulation, however."
I'm not one for advocating contact with players heads...but is a contact sport FFS, and going this way is dangerous in terms of completely ruining the hame
If a defender makes a huge clearing header, and clears out the attackers in front of him while doing so, purely with his body weight....we saying pens should be given if there's contact with the head at any stage?
Same thing goes if a forward throws himself for a header.....played must be able to make attempts for these things, and that's all Jefte did
I'd see the point if he completely charged into the guy, he didn't, the defender jumped towards Jefte with about as much force if not more.than Jefte did towards him, and the only reason there's been "head contact" is because Jefte jumped higher, it's fcking ridiculous
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All I'm saying is that is the way the game is going. Huge focus on dangerous play and fear of potential future industrial injury claims in in play and heading banned at lower age groups. I watch a fair bit in the US these days and their refs are blowing for almost anything - oooer missus but the head injury thing and the claim environment is significantly different TBF.
On a positive note Celtic are maybe ahead of the game in anticipating a heading ban hence the midget signing policy?
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