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posted on 25/1/25

I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?

posted on 25/1/25

Have been saying this about Spurs for absolutely ages.

There are some people on the forum who use transfer spend as their key metric, ignoring how much more the likes of Liverpool, United etc pay in wages.

That said, it doesn’t explain the shambles this season! Long way to go though.

posted on 25/1/25

It’s so very obvious. They cut the wage bill this year AND put the ticket prices up

Shut up and pay your money

posted on 25/1/25

The worst part is that these figures don’t take the latest players leaving into account. It’s actually significantly lower when you deduct the wages of Kane, Ndombele, Dier, Loris etc - some of our biggest earners.

I belive Paul mentioned around mid 30’s.

Levy is bleeding the club dry and it’s doubtful that will change any time soon

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Have been saying this about Spurs for absolutely ages.

There are some people on the forum who use transfer spend as their key metric, ignoring how much more the likes of Liverpool, United etc pay in wages.

That said, it doesn’t explain the shambles this season! Long way to go though.
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dont lump us in with utd etc lol ours isnt that much higher than spurs, 20m more. utds is 50m more than ours and cities is almost 100m more not inc the new signings.

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-city-fc/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total

posted on 25/1/25

What’s more alarming I think is the suggestion that there’s a difference of opinion about the way forward. The Lewis family want out, Levy wants in so there’s infighting setting in. This just isn’t sustainable. We are where we are because we’re simply one of the lowest spenders on wages so that leaves us with a bunch of kids unable to dig us out of this hole. It’s an effin scandal when you consider the cost of a ticket.

That place needs burning down with every single stakeholder in it so we can start afresh with someone that wants what we all want - success.

posted on 25/1/25

Here’s the full rundown of how much each Premier League club pays in wages for the upcoming 2024-25 season, with estimates via Capology.

1. Manchester City – £201,864,000
2. Manchester United – £185,580,000
3. Arsenal – £172,146,000
4. Chelsea – £171,210,000
5. Liverpool – £128,804,000
6. Tottenham – £104,806,000
7. Aston Villa – £104,676,000
8. Newcastle United – £103,272,000
9. West Ham United – £90,220,000
10. Crystal Palace – £69,810,000

posted on 25/1/25

Tottenham rank bottom 3 in terms of money they generate and then spend on wages

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?
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I don't see that's actually true. We could remove him as chairman or at least reduce his influence without getting new owners. Plenty of part owners shut up and let the club do their work. We just need to make it too uncomfortable for him to stick around.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Have been saying this about Spurs for absolutely ages.

There are some people on the forum who use transfer spend as their key metric, ignoring how much more the likes of Liverpool, United etc pay in wages.

That said, it doesn’t explain the shambles this season! Long way to go though.
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dont lump us in with utd etc lol ours isnt that much higher than spurs, 20m more. utds is 50m more than ours and cities is almost 100m more not inc the new signings.

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-city-fc/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total
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Depends which web site you believe and which period of time you are looking at.

Liverpool have been much bigger spenders than Tottenham.

posted on 25/1/25

The Lewis family want out, Levy wants in so there’s infighting setting in. This just isn’t sustainable.


Source of this?

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?
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I don't see that's actually true. We could remove him as chairman or at least reduce his influence without getting new owners. Plenty of part owners shut up and let the club do their work. We just need to make it too uncomfortable for him to stick around.
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Who could remove him as chairman? Me, you, Sandy?

You seem to forget about his thick elephant like skin - the more we push the more he digs in.

It’s gonna take some mad man to come in, lay £3bn plus on the table and tell Levy to do one.

Said it before, I’m younger than him, trying to stay as healthy as possible so I can put live the faaaacker and dream again

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Lewis family want out, Levy wants in so there’s infighting setting in. This just isn’t sustainable.


Source of this?
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O’Keefe is a pretty decent source

posted on 25/1/25

Pretty sure PoK said a while back the low wages are due to attracting new investors, so they can actualy invest in the team within the compounds of PSR and FFP.

We all know we have alot of head room with FFP. If any new investor decides to go on a "mad one" in the transfer market we can match wages of bigger clubs with big transfer fees.

That's the theory. Some might say, well if ENIC invested their own money into their squad the value of the club would increase with the success BUT pumping in £200m or £300m for them, would be deemed as high risk with no guarantee of success.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Lewis family want out, Levy wants in so there’s infighting setting in. This just isn’t sustainable.


Source of this?
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O’Keefe is a pretty decent source
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As he ever said there is in fighting between the Lewis' family and Levy? Never seen him say that.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?
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I don't see that's actually true. We could remove him as chairman or at least reduce his influence without getting new owners. Plenty of part owners shut up and let the club do their work. We just need to make it too uncomfortable for him to stick around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who could remove him as chairman? Me, you, Sandy?

You seem to forget about his thick elephant like skin - the more we push the more he digs in.

It’s gonna take some mad man to come in, lay £3bn plus on the table and tell Levy to do one.

Said it before, I’m younger than him, trying to stay as healthy as possible so I can put live the faaaacker and dream again
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We've not seen proper protests tbf. But yeah you're probably right he'd sit in an empty stadium convinced we're all idiots before he voluntarily stepped down

posted on 25/1/25

He is not going anywhere until all the real estate around ground is built to his vision.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pretty sure PoK said a while back the low wages are due to attracting new investors, so they can actualy invest in the team within the compounds of PSR and FFP.

We all know we have alot of head room with FFP. If any new investor decides to go on a "mad one" in the transfer market we can match wages of bigger clubs with big transfer fees.

That's the theory. Some might say, well if ENIC invested their own money into their squad the value of the club would increase with the success BUT pumping in £200m or £300m for them, would be deemed as high risk with no guarantee of success.
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Why on earth would any new investor come on board and splash the cash if the current owners aren’t willing to do the same? The only way it’s even remotely an attractive proposition is if there’s an outright sale so the investor then has financial control. Why should any investor take the burden of that risk. That makes the search endless. No one would sign up for that.

Things are always moving so whilst he knows there’s concrete evidence of a desire to lower the wage bill, his guess at the time was that it was about investment. He’s heard since of the split in opinion regarding stakeholders that might be a large reason why they’re reluctant to commit money to a club they ultimately want out of. Whichever way you slice it, Levy is holding this up like a dictator clinging to the throne. We can only hope this is like the last days of Gaddafi.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't see that's actually true. We could remove him as chairman or at least reduce his influence without getting new owners. Plenty of part owners shut up and let the club do their work. We just need to make it too uncomfortable for him to stick around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who could remove him as chairman? Me, you, Sandy?

You seem to forget about his thick elephant like skin - the more we push the more he digs in.

It’s gonna take some mad man to come in, lay £3bn plus on the table and tell Levy to do one.

Said it before, I’m younger than him, trying to stay as healthy as possible so I can put live the faaaacker and dream again
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We've not seen proper protests tbf. But yeah you're probably right he'd sit in an empty stadium convinced we're all idiots before he voluntarily stepped down
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We sell out every game, post match at the weekend people hang around for hours eating the schitt food and drink in the ground. The club shop heaving and a queue outside the ground waiting for the players to leave to catch a glimpse of them.

Next to that you get at best 30 blokes with a sign and some black balloons - it’s honestly pathetic.

You also have “legacy” fans like hand Shandy and Levyshire who think ENIC are wonderful owners.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Lewis family want out, Levy wants in so there’s infighting setting in. This just isn’t sustainable.


Source of this?
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O’Keefe is a pretty decent source
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As he ever said there is in fighting between the Lewis' family and Levy? Never seen him say that.
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Read through the comments of that link I posted.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pretty sure PoK said a while back the low wages are due to attracting new investors, so they can actualy invest in the team within the compounds of PSR and FFP.

We all know we have alot of head room with FFP. If any new investor decides to go on a "mad one" in the transfer market we can match wages of bigger clubs with big transfer fees.

That's the theory. Some might say, well if ENIC invested their own money into their squad the value of the club would increase with the success BUT pumping in £200m or £300m for them, would be deemed as high risk with no guarantee of success.
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Why on earth would any new investor come on board and splash the cash if the current owners aren’t willing to do the same? The only way it’s even remotely an attractive proposition is if there’s an outright sale so the investor then has financial control. Why should any investor take the burden of that risk. That makes the search endless. No one would sign up for that.

Things are always moving so whilst he knows there’s concrete evidence of a desire to lower the wage bill, his guess at the time was that it was about investment. He’s heard since of the split in opinion regarding stakeholders that might be a large reason why they’re reluctant to commit money to a club they ultimately want out of. Whichever way you slice it, Levy is holding this up like a dictator clinging to the throne. We can only hope this is like the last days of Gaddafi.
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I have definitely read previously that Lewis’s daughter (think she is called Vivienne) is a Liverpool fan, does not like Levy and has her own ambitions for Spurs - it could just be some shiete I read on Spurs community though

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 26 minutes ago
I get it, the problem as always remains that someone is going to have to stump up £3bn plus to get rid of the faaacker.

There aren’t many if any around that want to do that. I hate Levy - but what can we do?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't see that's actually true. We could remove him as chairman or at least reduce his influence without getting new owners. Plenty of part owners shut up and let the club do their work. We just need to make it too uncomfortable for him to stick around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who could remove him as chairman? Me, you, Sandy?

You seem to forget about his thick elephant like skin - the more we push the more he digs in.

It’s gonna take some mad man to come in, lay £3bn plus on the table and tell Levy to do one.

Said it before, I’m younger than him, trying to stay as healthy as possible so I can put live the faaaacker and dream again
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've not seen proper protests tbf. But yeah you're probably right he'd sit in an empty stadium convinced we're all idiots before he voluntarily stepped down
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We sell out every game, post match at the weekend people hang around for hours eating the schitt food and drink in the ground. The club shop heaving and a queue outside the ground waiting for the players to leave to catch a glimpse of them.

Next to that you get at best 30 blokes with a sign and some black balloons - it’s honestly pathetic.

You also have “legacy” fans like hand Shandy and Levyshire who think ENIC are wonderful owners.
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Well honestly, they’re ignorant to the facts if they think they’re in this for on field success. It’s delusional at this stage. The whole world can see what’s going on except those two and frankly I’m finding each and every post they put up defending Levy more and more nauseating.

posted on 25/1/25

Yeah nothing about in fighting. Both Levy and the Lewis family are notouriously private so I am surprised. Sounds like BS.

posted on 25/1/25

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pretty sure PoK said a while back the low wages are due to attracting new investors, so they can actualy invest in the team within the compounds of PSR and FFP.

We all know we have alot of head room with FFP. If any new investor decides to go on a "mad one" in the transfer market we can match wages of bigger clubs with big transfer fees.

That's the theory. Some might say, well if ENIC invested their own money into their squad the value of the club would increase with the success BUT pumping in £200m or £300m for them, would be deemed as high risk with no guarantee of success.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why on earth would any new investor come on board and splash the cash if the current owners aren’t willing to do the same? The only way it’s even remotely an attractive proposition is if there’s an outright sale so the investor then has financial control. Why should any investor take the burden of that risk. That makes the search endless. No one would sign up for that.

Things are always moving so whilst he knows there’s concrete evidence of a desire to lower the wage bill, his guess at the time was that it was about investment. He’s heard since of the split in opinion regarding stakeholders that might be a large reason why they’re reluctant to commit money to a club they ultimately want out of. Whichever way you slice it, Levy is holding this up like a dictator clinging to the throne. We can only hope this is like the last days of Gaddafi.
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Why on earth would any new investor come on board and splash the cash if the current owners aren’t willing to do the same?

Hhhmmmm. Newcastle new owners V Mike Ashley. Man City New owners v the previous lot. Chelsea new owners weren't shy either.

Do you get it now?

posted on 25/1/25

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah nothing about in fighting. Both Levy and the Lewis family are notouriously private so I am surprised. Sounds like BS.
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It is in there, just very well hidden….

https://x.com/pokeefe1/status/1883268204946162140?s=46

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