comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Agreed Elvis
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
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Agreed, we should have put the money towards a midfielder that summer. It was 100% a club signing that Ole agreed. How much of a say he really had we'll never know.
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
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Agreed, we should have put the money towards a midfielder that summer. It was 100% a club signing that Ole agreed. How much of a say he really had we'll never know.
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Yeh, we were a team that really relied on hurting teams on the counter. In order to develop further we needed to be able to better control the game. A quality midfielder would have made more sense at that time.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 30 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I would never say that Ronaldo caused the issues, as he did what you'd expect him to do at that stage of his career. Its not his fault that he didn't really fit what we needed. He would have done much better at City, just getting on the end of chances.
But his presence in the team was detrimental to our performances.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 30 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I would never say that Ronaldo caused the issues, as he did what you'd expect him to do at that stage of his career. Its not his fault that he didn't really fit what we needed. He would have done much better at City, just getting on the end of chances.
But his presence in the team was detrimental to our performances.
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If we had one of our teams like under SAF, when we brought in say Owen or Larsson, then it would have been fine, and maybe that was what was in their mind. But the rest of the team wasn't up to that level, we didn't have SAF, and whilst the other 2 fitted into the team, the team was fitting around Ronaldo.
As you say, Ronaldo just did what Ronaldo does, but less effective than before, but the development of the team struggled overall.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 18 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I do not get it. How does it matter if we could beat the humongous mountain that was City? Can we compete? can we remain relevant with your youngsters developing and improving our team graduall rather than thinking one player would somehow short cut it for us?
Ronaldo was not a need, We had a manager and a system in place for literal years. Any good ownership will strengthen that. Midfielder!! They rushed and bought a toy like a kid that almost always breaks or is tossed away not long after. Ronaldo was the symptom of the problem we had from Antony down to Ibrahimovic.
Im loving the China tiktok exposure on how all the fanc expensive things we bu are all mad in China and for cheap. People just like to spend frivolously for overrated sheite and there is an idiot for it. WE HAVE BEEN THAT IDIOT FOR YEARS.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
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And yet no-one on this thread
You do love to write utter gibberish and this is your problem. Surely you can't be this daft. The OP for starters does. other people agree on this thread. The most liked comments on the video shared agree with my take.
But hey, Elvis and his bums don't agree with me, so i don't understand football. You are no football mensah, let me tell you this for free!
Thanks for answering my question, it led to him getting sacked but you conveniently stopped at 3rd place, which everyone knows that's not where the story ends.
Lastly, I don't care one iota about this energy you speak about. This is a football forum you imbecile, I could not care less who agrees or disagrees with me here. This is where we are different even if what you were saying is true. I am not an echo chamber type thinker.
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
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Unsubstantiated rumour that he was wearing a Ronaldo shirt during that infamous audio clip...
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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SOunds like Trump speech, Meanwhile he is average in Saudi Arabia. you wonder why that was the only big team he could find. That is the real problem. A superstar player leaves us and becomes sheite? or maybe they where sheite before coming and only us had no clue. It is a recurring trend here.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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The winner whose impact was to take a team from 2nd to 6th? He was at the wrong stage of his career to come in and make a positive impact at United. The Ronaldo we had prior to his move to United would have been much more useful.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
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And yet no-one on this thread
You do love to write utter gibberish and this is your problem. Surely you can't be this daft. The OP for starters does. other people agree on this thread. The most liked comments on the video shared agree with my take.
But hey, Elvis and his bums don't agree with me, so i don't understand football. You are no football mensah, let me tell you this for free!
Thanks for answering my question, it led to him getting sacked but you conveniently stopped at 3rd place, which everyone knows that's not where the story ends.
Lastly, I don't care one iota about this energy you speak about. This is a football forum you imbecile, I could not care less who agrees or disagrees with me here. This is where we are different even if what you were saying is true. I am not an echo chamber type thinker.
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Getting rid of Ronaldo didn't get him the sack. He finished 3rd without him and won the FA cup and League Cup. Poor transfers and tactics for him the sack.
We finished 2nd and 3rd either side of Ronaldo's full season with us. And 6th in the season he was with us. But everyone else is to blame apart from Ronaldo? Bizarre. Especially if you actually watched us play.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
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I have said previously that I appreciate English isn't your first language and that you've perhaps misconstrued the point i was making. It happens quite a lot. But rather than accept that you instead double down.
No idea what you mean about only English that I know or what you ate insinuating there.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
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I have said previously that I appreciate English isn't your first language and that you've perhaps misconstrued the point i was making. It happens quite a lot. But rather than accept that you instead double down.
No idea what you mean about only English that I know or what you ate insinuating there.
---------------------------------------------------------------------Double down on what exactly? You do write utter crapp!
You were talking utter nonsense, showed up, and went down this nuance nonsense. The video attached to this OP shows a lot of people agreeing with my stance. Surely you can’t be this dense!
Disagree with this clown, he starts talking about English being first, second and third language. No one cares about this as much as you do. I appreciate, this is your modus operandi.
A dialogue with you is a waste of time, so I blame myself.
I am insinuating it is your arrogance ( which is not surprising) that you bring up this nonsense about English every-time. I am glad you did not deny you can’t speak more than one language! I am not shocked, nor surprised! The audacity and arrogance.
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posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Agreed Elvis
posted on 14/4/25
Ronaldo was a cancer.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
posted on 14/4/25
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
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Agreed, we should have put the money towards a midfielder that summer. It was 100% a club signing that Ole agreed. How much of a say he really had we'll never know.
posted on 14/4/25
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
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posted on 14/4/25
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 14 hours, 6 minutes ago
Signing Ronaldo was the moment it all turned to sh!t
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Signing him was a huge mistake but we actually had a good season after he was dropped. A big reason we are currently so bad was the Mount, Hojlund, Onana window.
Ronaldo set us back in the short term but his signing can't be blamed for our current state imo.
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No, our current state is due to years of mismanagement and poor signings. That said, I would love to know how things would have panned out had we not signed Ronaldo. And also how much Ronaldo was a club/Ole signing.
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Agreed, we should have put the money towards a midfielder that summer. It was 100% a club signing that Ole agreed. How much of a say he really had we'll never know.
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Yeh, we were a team that really relied on hurting teams on the counter. In order to develop further we needed to be able to better control the game. A quality midfielder would have made more sense at that time.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 30 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I would never say that Ronaldo caused the issues, as he did what you'd expect him to do at that stage of his career. Its not his fault that he didn't really fit what we needed. He would have done much better at City, just getting on the end of chances.
But his presence in the team was detrimental to our performances.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 30 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I would never say that Ronaldo caused the issues, as he did what you'd expect him to do at that stage of his career. Its not his fault that he didn't really fit what we needed. He would have done much better at City, just getting on the end of chances.
But his presence in the team was detrimental to our performances.
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If we had one of our teams like under SAF, when we brought in say Owen or Larsson, then it would have been fine, and maybe that was what was in their mind. But the rest of the team wasn't up to that level, we didn't have SAF, and whilst the other 2 fitted into the team, the team was fitting around Ronaldo.
As you say, Ronaldo just did what Ronaldo does, but less effective than before, but the development of the team struggled overall.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 18 minutes ago
For me, we would have had problems whether we signed Ronaldo or not. The team generally was not good enough - Ronaldo, with the way he was, wasn't the type of player to help the team improve generally, but he didn't 'cause' the issues either.
Ronaldo does set high standards for himself but he's not what you would call a natural team player - it's about him, and at his peak, with the right players, that is more than enough, but past his peak and not surrounded by top players, it's not quite the same.
But being the figure he is, it is easy to look back at that period and take a view of blaming Ronaldo or not
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I do not get it. How does it matter if we could beat the humongous mountain that was City? Can we compete? can we remain relevant with your youngsters developing and improving our team graduall rather than thinking one player would somehow short cut it for us?
Ronaldo was not a need, We had a manager and a system in place for literal years. Any good ownership will strengthen that. Midfielder!! They rushed and bought a toy like a kid that almost always breaks or is tossed away not long after. Ronaldo was the symptom of the problem we had from Antony down to Ibrahimovic.
Im loving the China tiktok exposure on how all the fanc expensive things we bu are all mad in China and for cheap. People just like to spend frivolously for overrated sheite and there is an idiot for it. WE HAVE BEEN THAT IDIOT FOR YEARS.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
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And yet no-one on this thread
You do love to write utter gibberish and this is your problem. Surely you can't be this daft. The OP for starters does. other people agree on this thread. The most liked comments on the video shared agree with my take.
But hey, Elvis and his bums don't agree with me, so i don't understand football. You are no football mensah, let me tell you this for free!
Thanks for answering my question, it led to him getting sacked but you conveniently stopped at 3rd place, which everyone knows that's not where the story ends.
Lastly, I don't care one iota about this energy you speak about. This is a football forum you imbecile, I could not care less who agrees or disagrees with me here. This is where we are different even if what you were saying is true. I am not an echo chamber type thinker.
posted on 14/4/25
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
Also would Greenwood have ended up a raaaapist if Ronaldo didn’t join given how much he idolised him?
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Unsubstantiated rumour that he was wearing a Ronaldo shirt during that infamous audio clip...
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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SOunds like Trump speech, Meanwhile he is average in Saudi Arabia. you wonder why that was the only big team he could find. That is the real problem. A superstar player leaves us and becomes sheite? or maybe they where sheite before coming and only us had no clue. It is a recurring trend here.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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The winner whose impact was to take a team from 2nd to 6th? He was at the wrong stage of his career to come in and make a positive impact at United. The Ronaldo we had prior to his move to United would have been much more useful.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Didn't realize Ronaldo scored that many goals for you. At 37. Absolute machine and freak of nature. GOAT after Messi.
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Just look at some of the idiotic comments above. Some of these imbeciles are too arrogant to ever admit they were talking utter shiiiit.
So let me get this straight, we signed Ronaldo. Managed to spend another 500m after he left. Came 3rd. But it was after his signing that it went to shiiit??? The same manager that got rid of him blessed us with Rasmus- Onana- Mount 🤣🤣🤣
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The club was on an upwards trajectory until we signed Ronaldo.
As an individual he did an incredible job scoring tbe goals that he did in the PL at his age. But the team suffered overall and we scored less goals as a team.
That's not an attack on Ronaldo, but the signing didn't work out.
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No we were not! I lIke ole as much as the next man, however we were never pushing on from 2nd to 1st. Ole was/ is not beating Pep to any league title.
Sancho was signed that same window and he stank the place. Funnily enough, I don’t see much commentary regarding how we could’ve used that money better.
The signing didn’t work out to you. When I see likes of rasmus and Zirkzheee who both can’t score in a brothel, it is ridiculous to state a 37 year old scoring a goal every other game for us didn’t work out.
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Sigh. Were were on an upwards trajectory when we signed Ronaldo. We had finished 3 and then 2nd under Ole, having finished 6th the year previously after Jose was sacked. I didn't say that he would beat Pep to the title. Once again you are arguing a point that no-one ahs made.
Sancho has been widely panned. No idea what you are going on about here. But Sancho's arrival didn't alter the style of our play. He was just another wide player. Ronaldo's arrival saw a shift in how the team played, with everything being focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole.
What players have done after Ronaldo left is completely irrelevant to the discussion. It is such a strawman argument that it shouldn't even need explaining. The fact is that the arrival of Ronaldo turned out to be a bad move for Ole and the club.
That isn't a slight in any way on Ronaldo. He has been one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Perhaps the greatest. I was swept along with the excitement of his return and no-one can doubt the level of effort he put in. But with hindsight, it was the wrong decision to bring him back.
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Once again, you are regurgitating the same old tired nonsense! Do you ever get tired?
"focused on getting the ball to him. It worked for him personally, but not the team as whole."
Nothing has worked for this team as a whole since the great man left. Conveniently, you omitted the fact he was surrounded by some utter failures who are still here.
On this nonsense though, I have actually looked at the figures of chances he himself created for others and the jokers we had could not even hit the target, never mind scoring.
Ole was here for a good and short time. Ronaldo or no Ronaldo, his time was going to come sooner or later because he is a mediocre manager at best at premier league level.
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Its not nonsense, you just can't accept facts because you have some strange mancrush on Ronaldo.
Every attacking team metric went down after Ronaldo joined. The key one being that we only scored 56 PL goals that season, having scored 73 the season prior.
Ronaldo scored 15 PL goals from open play (and 3 pens), but that took him 107 shots. Not a bad return, but not an amazing conversion rate either = a goal every 7.13 shots. When the restof the team aren't getting as many chances, it needs to be better. Cavani's finishing the year before was twice as productive. And I think he gave more to the all round build-up play.
Anyone who watched us play throughout the 21/22 season could see that our general play deteriorated with Ronaldo in the team.
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Yes Elvis, I like associating myself with winners. If that equals a mancrush, happy to take it.
Your modus operandi is to go down this route when someone disagrees with you. Change the record, it is tiresome.
The picture you are painting is utter waffle. I repeat to you, Ole at best was/ is a mediocre manager. Even if Ronaldo disrupted our upward trajectory, it was a small one.
We bought Ronaldo. He came in with high demands and these jokers you say were on an upward trajectory could not deal with his presence.
How long did the upward Trajectory of ETH last after he got rid of him? I was told then, it was a sensational decision and the bald one was going to take us only up. How did that go, Elvis?
How about you just accept just like you thought it was a massive mistake, there are a lot of people that think otherwise. You don't have to go far to see that, see the comment section on video that is posted by the OP.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror. You are going to get back the same energy that you give to other posters.
If someone has a different opinion to you then you call them idiots and fools and get personal. And yet no-one on this thread is really agreeing with you. Perhaps you simply don't understand football very well?
The picture I am painting is not waffle. When Ronaldo was in the team and scoring, there were debates on this forum about how we didn't look as dangerous relying on him as the focal point. It was a regular topic of conversation, not something that I have made up or imagined.
As for what happened under ETH, we finished 6th with Ronaldo in the team. ETH dropped him and then moved him on and we finished 3rd, amassing 17 more points in the league than with Ronaldo in the team. Ultimately, ETH's transfer dealings and tactics cost him his job.
But the reality is that we finished 2nd the year before Ronaldo signed, 6th with Ronaldo in the team and then 3rd the following year when ETH marginalised him/sold him.
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And yet no-one on this thread
You do love to write utter gibberish and this is your problem. Surely you can't be this daft. The OP for starters does. other people agree on this thread. The most liked comments on the video shared agree with my take.
But hey, Elvis and his bums don't agree with me, so i don't understand football. You are no football mensah, let me tell you this for free!
Thanks for answering my question, it led to him getting sacked but you conveniently stopped at 3rd place, which everyone knows that's not where the story ends.
Lastly, I don't care one iota about this energy you speak about. This is a football forum you imbecile, I could not care less who agrees or disagrees with me here. This is where we are different even if what you were saying is true. I am not an echo chamber type thinker.
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Getting rid of Ronaldo didn't get him the sack. He finished 3rd without him and won the FA cup and League Cup. Poor transfers and tactics for him the sack.
We finished 2nd and 3rd either side of Ronaldo's full season with us. And 6th in the season he was with us. But everyone else is to blame apart from Ronaldo? Bizarre. Especially if you actually watched us play.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
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I have said previously that I appreciate English isn't your first language and that you've perhaps misconstrued the point i was making. It happens quite a lot. But rather than accept that you instead double down.
No idea what you mean about only English that I know or what you ate insinuating there.
posted on 14/4/25
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
The problem was not ronaldo the problem was the losers in the squad couldn’t handle playing with a winner. They didn’t like someone who rocked the boat; the boat of achieving little and doing very little and getting paid well. Ronaldo is far better than any striker we have had since he’s left. Fact.
"No One on this thread." Another day, Elvis writing utter nonsense.
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I mean, did I have to actually mention that the OP agreed with you?
Notice the inclusion of the word 'really' in my original sentence. Which you conveniently left out. Just another example of you not quite understanding the finer nuances of the English language and taking things literally.
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Regurgitating the same old nonsense again. The fella just can’t help himself. Talking absolute and utter waffle about nuances.
Let’s say I don’t understand the nuances. And what Elvis?
Do you think understanding English and nuances is the only measure of intelligence? I say to you again, you are no Mensa. I speak 4 languages and can write in 4. I am certain you don’t speak more than 1.
Why you keep banging on about English only you know. As a matter of fact I know why you swine.
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I have said previously that I appreciate English isn't your first language and that you've perhaps misconstrued the point i was making. It happens quite a lot. But rather than accept that you instead double down.
No idea what you mean about only English that I know or what you ate insinuating there.
---------------------------------------------------------------------Double down on what exactly? You do write utter crapp!
You were talking utter nonsense, showed up, and went down this nuance nonsense. The video attached to this OP shows a lot of people agreeing with my stance. Surely you can’t be this dense!
Disagree with this clown, he starts talking about English being first, second and third language. No one cares about this as much as you do. I appreciate, this is your modus operandi.
A dialogue with you is a waste of time, so I blame myself.
I am insinuating it is your arrogance ( which is not surprising) that you bring up this nonsense about English every-time. I am glad you did not deny you can’t speak more than one language! I am not shocked, nor surprised! The audacity and arrogance.
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